When you don't want to give up sinning...

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That sounds awful, I know.
The reality is, I long to know Christ intimately without any sin in the way. My spirit wants to be with him and I want to head that calling. But, on the other hand, I do love sin. Sometimes, it's fun. It makes me feel sick to say that, to admit that disobeying my Lord could be enjoyable. But it's the truth. And I need help with this.
How do I come to a place where I truly want to give up sin? I want to. But not enough to do it, if that makes sense. Additionally, does that make me a horrible person?

Thanks all for any advice...
 

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Ask God. Be honest “Lord I don’t desire to give these sins up, but they are against you and I want to love you. Please open my eyes to how evil they are and give me the grace to sincerely repent.”

I’ve been struggling letting go of old habits. I was a total recluse in the past, and if I wasn’t with my close friends I was at home gaming/watching YouTube/doing something at home. I realize these things were idols and while I repented of putting them over God I realize how hard it is for me to completely let them go. By His grace I have drastically cut back the time I spend on gaming (and not put it over work/church/fellowship), but to fully let it go if I am called to would be extremely difficult.

I would, but out of fear of punishment. I’ve tried several days for several months trying to forsake everything in my heart and stop enjoying all hobbies, etc. But in my own strength I fail.

Just turn to Him as you are. He says “all who come to me I will in no wise castout.” Even with the part of you that doesn’t want to give it up. Ask for mercy and grace, plug into the word and seek Him.

It’s hard.

One second my heart would look back to my old ways and I thought that negates everything and I have to re-will up the power to surrender it. And I was in an endless loop of surrendering stumbling repenting.

I’m learning how to rely on His grace. Even if it feels like it’s just 1% of you that wants to repent bring it to Him. The difference in sincerity is insincerity would be “eh, here’s 1%. Change me or I won’t turn away. I’ll be here sinning till you do something.” While sincerity is “I cannot even must more than 1%, please help me. Without your grace I will choose this sin. Please give me grace, please lead me where you want me to go. Teach me to love your way.”

“And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son”
- John 14:13

This verse obviously doesn’t mean anything, but like it says in first John if we ask anything according to His will He hears us. Asking for true repentance is definitely in His will, as he wants no one to perish. You only have the desire to repent because of Him as well (no one can come to Jesus unless God draws him. >Verse in John, I forget where).

Rather than try to perfectly repent on your own, trust Him to change and lead you. Sometimes after I pray my heart instantly jumps back to how it felt before, but I’m finding the power to say “no” to sin. Pray, take steps to avoid the sin, and trust Him.

I know what you mean by praying but at the same time not wanting to. All I can say is we both need to focus on grace- not as an excuse to sin, but to understand it’s God who changes us. I hope this helps. Where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more. Do what you can to avoid the sin, and trust Jesus to empower you, guide you, and change you. It may be instant, it may be over time. But He will if you trust Him. I’ll be praying for you. “Whoever come to me I will in no wise cast out.” (JOHN 6:37)
 
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No one can't fully give up sin, as we will sin until the day we die. That doesn't make sin ok, obviously, but it's more realistic, and our views toward our sin should start changing over time. I second what Ivan said about relying on grace.
 
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The you that likes to do thinks of a lower nature is not the real you .Its your ego what Jesus called the beam in our eye . By making a conscious decisions through the heart like " Do I really want to do this will it take me closer to Christ or one step farther away " you can over come the ego's pull on your mind. Also by doing prayers to bind your ego ( carnal mind ) .
 
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I remind people Jesus was even tempted to sin while on earth. So if Jesus was tempted, then we stand no chance of being perfect while in these bodies. This of course does not mean we should willingly sin because "Oh well, I can't help it!", it just means we have to try hard not to.

For example I've become really good at not swearing anymore. At avoiding things like horror and occult media...etc. However I do play video games that have blood and what not in them. And while playing a game is not a sin per say, its definitely not something Jesus would play.

I do have other struggles in life where sometimes my flesh is stronger then my will power. And I always pray for forgiveness and more strength from the Lord since I cannot do these things by myself.

In the end if your a newer christian if you want to see what progress you've made just look at how you were before and how you are now and see if there have been any changes at all. If you see some changes then your doing good. Just don't expect to be perfect though. As my pastor says "Any christian who claims that haven't sinned once a week, even maybe once a die, is a liar. We stumble almost daily but pride stops us from admitting it often times."
 
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Ask God. Be honest “Lord I don’t desire to give these sins up, but they are against you and I want to love you. Please open my eyes to how evil they are and give me the grace to sincerely repent.”

I’ve been struggling letting go of old habits. I was a total recluse in the past, and if I wasn’t with my close friends I was at home gaming/watching YouTube/doing something at home. I realize these things were idols and while I repented of putting them over God I realize how hard it is for me to completely let them go. By His grace I have drastically cut back the time I spend on gaming (and not put it over work/church/fellowship), but to fully let it go if I am called to would be extremely difficult.

I would, but out of fear of punishment. I’ve tried several days for several months trying to forsake everything in my heart and stop enjoying all hobbies, etc. But in my own strength I fail.

Just turn to Him as you are. He says “all who come to me I will in no wise castout.” Even with the part of you that doesn’t want to give it up. Ask for mercy and grace, plug into the word and seek Him.

It’s hard.

One second my heart would look back to my old ways and I thought that negates everything and I have to re-will up the power to surrender it. And I was in an endless loop of surrendering stumbling repenting.

I’m learning how to rely on His grace. Even if it feels like it’s just 1% of you that wants to repent bring it to Him. The difference in sincerity is insincerity would be “eh, here’s 1%. Change me or I won’t turn away. I’ll be here sinning till you do something.” While sincerity is “I cannot even must more than 1%, please help me. Without your grace I will choose this sin. Please give me grace, please lead me where you want me to go. Teach me to love your way.”

“And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son”
- John 14:13

This verse obviously doesn’t mean anything, but like it says in first John if we ask anything according to His will He hears us. Asking for true repentance is definitely in His will, as he wants no one to perish. You only have the desire to repent because of Him as well (no one can come to Jesus unless God draws him. >Verse in John, I forget where).

Rather than try to perfectly repent on your own, trust Him to change and lead you. Sometimes after I pray my heart instantly jumps back to how it felt before, but I’m finding the power to say “no” to sin. Pray, take steps to avoid the sin, and trust Him.

I know what you mean by praying but at the same time not wanting to. All I can say is we both need to focus on grace- not as an excuse to sin, but to understand it’s God who changes us. I hope this helps. Where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more. Do what you can to avoid the sin, and trust Jesus to empower you, guide you, and change you. It may be instant, it may be over time. But He will if you trust Him. I’ll be praying for you. “Whoever come to me I will in no wise cast out.” (JOHN 6:37)

Wow, this was exactly what I needed to hear. I'm grateful that I'm not the only one who is struggling with this. Thank you for your response. I will be praying for you as well
 
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I remind people Jesus was even tempted to sin while on earth. So if Jesus was tempted, then we stand no chance of being perfect while in these bodies. This of course does not mean we should willingly sin because "Oh well, I can't help it!", it just means we have to try hard not to.

For example I've become really good at not swearing anymore. At avoiding things like horror and occult media...etc. However I do play video games that have blood and what not in them. And while playing a game is not a sin per say, its definitely not something Jesus would play.

I do have other struggles in life where sometimes my flesh is stronger then my will power. And I always pray for forgiveness and more strength from the Lord since I cannot do these things by myself.

In the end if your a newer christian if you want to see what progress you've made just look at how you were before and how you are now and see if there have been any changes at all. If you see some changes then your doing good. Just don't expect to be perfect though. As my pastor says "Any christian who claims that haven't sinned once a week, even maybe once a die, is a liar. We stumble almost daily but pride stops us from admitting it often times."

Sometimes I do forget that temptation is completely normal and I worry that I'm just weak for having suffered through it. Again, I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Sometimes I feel like my struggles are more unique than they are haha.
 
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That sounds awful, I know.
The reality is, I long to know Christ intimately without any sin in the way. My spirit wants to be with him and I want to head that calling. But, on the other hand, I do love sin. Sometimes, it's fun. It makes me feel sick to say that, to admit that disobeying my Lord could be enjoyable. But it's the truth. And I need help with this.
How do I come to a place where I truly want to give up sin? I want to. But not enough to do it, if that makes sense. Additionally, does that make me a horrible person?

Thanks all for any advice...
You are not a horrible person. You are just like the rest of us who struggle with sin. Try praying when you are tempted, ask God to remove the temptation. Also try reading Scripture on a regular basis at the same time each day. Staying in the Word seems to keep our relationship strong. Blessings
 
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That sounds awful, I know.
The reality is, I long to know Christ intimately without any sin in the way. My spirit wants to be with him and I want to head that calling. But, on the other hand, I do love sin. Sometimes, it's fun. It makes me feel sick to say that, to admit that disobeying my Lord could be enjoyable. But it's the truth. And I need help with this.
How do I come to a place where I truly want to give up sin? I want to. But not enough to do it, if that makes sense. Additionally, does that make me a horrible person?

Thanks all for any advice...
It depends on how you define "sinning". If you are referring to the works of the flesh as listed in Galatians 5, then you are in trouble, because it is quite clear there that those who do those things will definitely not inherit the kingdom of God. This means that those who do those things are not genuine Christians but merely religious.

But if your definition is centred in obeying the rules of your church in what it sees as appropriate or not, then that is quite a different story. Many churches impose rules on members that are not clearly defined as "sin" in the Bible.

Maybe you need to clarify so answers can be really to the point.
 
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That sounds awful, I know.
The reality is, I long to know Christ intimately without any sin in the way. My spirit wants to be with him and I want to head that calling. But, on the other hand, I do love sin. Sometimes, it's fun. It makes me feel sick to say that, to admit that disobeying my Lord could be enjoyable. But it's the truth. And I need help with this.
How do I come to a place where I truly want to give up sin? I want to. But not enough to do it, if that makes sense. Additionally, does that make me a horrible person?

Thanks all for any advice...

Hello and welcome to CF.

The problem with sin is that we don't see it for what it is. It can seem to be fun, but we don't realize how it actually deforms us and affects our person. It is good to ask God to reveal to you how sin damages you. Sometimes there are things we might read that help. I know the desert fathers have sometimes taught on ways to help understand this, depending on the sin - but they can be very easy to misunderstand so it's probably not a good idea to begin reading them without having someone knowledgeable you can ask about things that are bound to be confusing.

But when we begin to see the real effects of sin, we can begin to hate sin, and that is the attitude we need.

You're not a terrible person. God grows everyone differently, but many have exactly this question and struggle. It's good that you've been honest enough to ask it. I pray you are helped to grow in understanding.

God be with you.
 
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That sounds awful, I know.
The reality is, I long to know Christ intimately without any sin in the way. My spirit wants to be with him and I want to head that calling. But, on the other hand, I do love sin. Sometimes, it's fun. It makes me feel sick to say that, to admit that disobeying my Lord could be enjoyable. But it's the truth. And I need help with this.
How do I come to a place where I truly want to give up sin? I want to. But not enough to do it, if that makes sense. Additionally, does that make me a horrible person?

Thanks all for any advice...

What do you mean when you say "You love sin?"
How do you feel before you are about to take part in those sins? What do you do/think after you've done those 'fun' sins?

Do you want Jesus or do you want his stuff (eternal life, etc..)? I'm asking because this is a question I've been asking myself recently because I tend to have the same questions as you. Maybe it could be that I think I'm saved but I'm not (because of those sins that are still lingering on for now). As the bible says, the heart is deceitful. But this is why I need to trust in Jesus/God because only He is Faithful.

The below have encouraged me:

Luke 22:
31“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”
33But he replied, “Lord, I am ready to go with you to prison and to death.”
34Jesus answered, “I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me.”

Ecclesiastes 3: 1
1There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:

Ecclesiastes 3: 11
11He has made everything beautiful in its time...

All fail before the Lord. Take courage and trust in Jesus' work alone. Always run to Jesus and His word.

Peter denied Jesus and Jesus was still merciful. Paul hunted and killed christians and Jesus was merciful. Peter again failed in his treatment of the gentiles at a time but God was merciful and allowed him to change his mind (Act 10:9-19). God takes care of the minuscule to the infinite. He makes everything beautiful in its time. Have faith in his word and run to him and his word.

Below are some resources that have helped:
A beautiful sermon on Ecclesiastes 3 (start at about 2 minutes. First minutes are just church admin stuff):
Ingredients

Peter's denial:

When I don't desire God:
When I Don't Desire God
 
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