TransGender library story time hour lawsuit tossed out by Judge.

Subduction Zone · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
Snopes.....

You know the Bible but admit to being an Atheist.

Sure ma'am, tell me about homosexuality in the bible then, and what it says about murder?

Why do you think that atheists cannot understand the Bible? Most atheists in the U.S. were Christians and became atheists through a better understanding of the Bible.

Meanwhile you cannot argue correctly. You name call, will not honestly approach the topic, and cannot seem to support your claims when evidence is requested. A Christian should try to debate properly.

LostMarbels · Oct 29, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
That is just your opinion and a not very well supported one. If you could support your claims others might take you a bit more seriously.

The apostle Paul was asked by the Philippian jail keeper, “What must I do to be saved?” Paul’s immediate response was to exhort the jailer to “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ”and he would be saved. And today, as then, that is the one correct explanation of how to be saved. Paul did not offer or suggest multiple roads to God. He set forth Jesus Christ as the pathway to salvation. Jesus Himself stated this same truth, as the next Scripture shows.

John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

The all roads philosophy is false. There is only one plan, one way one God.

Subduction Zone said:
And yes, I probably do understand the Bible better than you do. Believing that it has to support your own personal version of Christianity almost guarantees that you will misunderstand parts of it.

You still feel the word of God is a book? And you can understand it with your own reasoning?

Subduction Zone · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
Name calling?
Your an atheist, last i heard they dont believe in Jesus as the Son Of God. Your promoting ANTI Christian laws, so what does that make you_______?
You can paint _____ but its still ______.

Abortion is a sin.
Homosexuality is a sin.

You cant say in Christianity they arent. But then again you've already admitted you know more than everyone else.
Enlighten us ma'am

Where does it say that abortion is a sin in the Bible? Why could priests perform abortions in the old testament? And I never claimed to know more than everyone. I clearly know much more than some here.

And no, I am not promoting "ANTI Christian laws". I am merely supporting laws that go contrary to your beliefs. There are countless different sects of Christianity with countless different interpretations of the Bible.

Subduction Zone · Oct 29, 2018

LostMarbels said:
The apostle Paul was asked by the Philippian jail keeper, “What must I do to be saved?” Paul’s immediate response was to exhort the jailer to “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ”and he would be saved. And today, as then, that is the one correct explanation of how to be saved. Paul did not offer or suggest multiple roads to God. He set forth Jesus Christ as the pathway to salvation. Jesus Himself stated this same truth, as the next Scripture shows.

John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

The all roads philosophy is false. There is only one plan, one way one God.

So what? Islam has a different path. So does Buddhism, and Hinduism. If you want to claim that your belief is the correct one you put a huge burden of proof upon yourself that no one has been able to solve.

You still feel the word of God is a book? And you can understand it with your own reasoning?

The countless errors in it attest to it being a book.

Skreeper · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
Homosexual Agenda - Conservapedia

I think this lays out whats going on well.

The Homosexual Agenda is a self-centered set of beliefs and objectives designed to promote and mandate approval of homosexuality and its ideology in society, along with the strategies used to implement such. The goals and means of this movement include indoctrinating students in public school, restricting the free speech of opposition, obtaining special treatment for homosexuals, distorting Biblical teaching and science, and interfering with freedom of association. Advocates of the homosexual agenda seek special rights for homosexualsand self-described "LGBTI people" that other people don't have, such as immunity from criticism (see hate speech, hate crimes). Such special rights will necessarily come at the expense of the rights of broader society. The homosexual agenda is the biggest threat to the rights of free speech and religious freedom today.

One of the top priorities of the Homosexual Agenda is to prohibit and outlaw conversion therapy, particularly for teenagers. Several U.S. states have enacted such laws, and leftists are pushing similar bans in many other states, apparently unable to tolerate things they dislike.

In a speech on December 10, 2013, to a pro-family rally in Jamaica, Brian Camenker of MassResistance outlined the step-by-step approach of the homosexual agenda:[1]

Legalize homosexuality

Hold gay pride parades

Accept child sex trafficking

Demand non-discrimination laws

Insist on homosexuals' adoption of children

Push the homosexual agenda in schools[2]

Legalize various alternate forms of partnership and call them "marriage" (i.e. man and man, woman and woman, man and three women, woman and box turtle, man and sex toy)

Demand public funding to deal with increased homosexual-related social problems

Promote the transgender agenda

Demand to be treated "equally"

Impose a large-scale loss of free speech

Ban counseling for kids confused by homosexual issues

Ban scientifically and religiously proven methods of homosexual conversion, such as shock therapy

Attack churches

Encourage abortion

You can read more at above link.
Enjoy

Oh boy, thanks for the comedy. It made me laugh really hard.

The only agenda we homosexuals have is that we want to be treated like normal people and have the same rights as you.

I can't speak for everyone of course but that's what my view and the view of the people I know are.

Subduction Zone · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
You spit on it, then act all high and mighty about being evolved.

You hate our laws, customs, and traditions. You actively try to change them.
Thats hate.

Just because people disagree with your interpretation does not mean that they "spit on the Bible".

And yes, wrong and evil customs and traditions need to be changed. Sometimes the change comes from within. For example the Bible does not oppose slavery and in fact supports it in many ways. At the time there were very few atheists so change to slavery had to come from within Christianity, though many Christians still defended slavery based upon the Bible.

Now that the world is more advanced the change often comes from without. The changes are still a change for the better.

Fixing your errors is not "hate". In fact maintaining your wrong beliefs is more apt to be "hate".

LostMarbels · Oct 29, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
Where does it say that abortion is a sin in the Bible? Why could priests perform abortions in the old testament? And I never claimed to know more than everyone. I clearly know much more than some here.

And no, I am not promoting "ANTI Christian laws". I am merely supporting laws that go contrary to your beliefs. There are countless different sects of Christianity with countless different interpretations of the Bible.

Humans are called, chosen, named and even known in the womb.

Psalm 139:13-16 13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb.

14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.

15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.

16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

The first human to ever recognize Christ was an unborn child.

When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.

42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear!

43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. Luke 1:41-44 (New International Version)

Rubricnigel · Oct 29, 2018

ToddNotTodd said:
Already did that. Was a Christian for many years.

I don’t have a reason to believe that the Bible is inerrant, so I don’t see a need to hold to all its precepts.

This may be a Christian forum, but this isn’t a Christian only section.

Do you believe this country should be a theocracy?

To right the wrongs of social degradation, maybe it would be the only thing to pull us out of the fast lane to hell.

Im up to all ideas how to stop the rott. Some say the new populist uprising is because of the social order. I dont know, but something must be done, before something drastic does.

Skreeper · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
Boy oh Boy atheist forum is spot on.
You'd think coming to a Christian forum to talk with CHRISTIANS from various theological backgrounds would be a good place to hash things out, but NO atheists are allowed to come and ______ all over everything.

If you can't deal with different viewpoints then this isn't the place for you.

There are Christian-only sections but even there the people have many different interpretations of your holy book.

Rubricnigel · Oct 29, 2018

LostMarbels said:
Humans are called, chosen, named and even known in the womb.

Psalm 139:13-16 13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb.

14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.

15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.

16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

The first human to ever recognize Christ was an unborn child.

When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.

42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear!

43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. Luke 1:41-44 (New International Version)

I can see the response.....
"Well i dont believe in the bible, so CHECK MATE".
Good post.....

Subduction Zone · Oct 29, 2018

Skreeper said:
Oh boy, thanks for the comedy. It made me laugh really hard.

The only agenda we homosexuals have is that we want to be treated like normal people and have the same rights as you.

I can't speak for everyone of course but that's what my view and the view of the people I know are.

I understand that now. I grew up in an older more homophobic time and I too opposed some changes in the past. But unlike some, I learned. I finally realized that those that opposed marriage equality also complained all of the time about homosexual promiscuity. It is illogical and hypocritical to oppose both. One can't complain about people being promiscuous and at the same time take away a tool that would help them to form a stable relationship.

Rubricnigel · Oct 29, 2018

Skreeper said:
If you can't deal with different viewpoints then this isn't the place for you.

There are Christian-only sections but even there the people have many different interpretations of your holy book.

Chrisitan Forum isnt the place for Chrisitans.
Imagine my shock, a whole area of atheists who attack the bible.

Btw, in the other areas where just Chrisitans are found, my theology and theres isnt an issue, we ALL love Jesus, We all Worship God.

Its here where the rott is, so its here, that i am. Plenty of atheist forums online btw

Subduction Zone · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
I can see the response.....
"Well i dont believe in the bible, so CHECK MATE".
Good post.....

No the response is that that is a poetic verse that does not support your claims. Meanwhile the test for an unfaithful wife blows your claims away:

Bible Gateway passage: Numbers 5:11-29 - New International Version

Of course one must understand some of the euphemisms used.

Ophiolite · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
You spit on it, then act all high and mighty about being evolved.
You hate our laws, customs, and traditions. You actively try to change them.
Thats hate.

I am no more or less evolved than you are, so I cannot act high and mighty in regard to you.

Which laws, customs and traditions have I actively tried to change? I am not aware of any. All I ask is that in a secular society that those laws, customs and traditions are not imposed on the rest of the population.

So, no there is no hate. Although, I readily confess, if you keep up this nasty, belligerent attack on what you wrongly claim are my beliefs I might manage to work up a mild dislike for you, but my views on Christianity would remain as positive as ever.

Rubricnigel said:
Yes having atheists promote abortions, and homosexuality on a CHRISTIAN forum, is so freeing.

Have you seen me promote abortions? No.
Have you seen me promote homosexuality? No.
Since homosexuality is a natural orientation it's not actually something one can promote and if it was I certainly wouldn't be promoting it. My own view of it is pretty much the same as my view on eating broccoli. If one wants to do it go ahead, just don't ask me to join in.

Subduction Zone · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
Chrisitan Forum isnt the place for Chrisitans.
Imagine my shock, a whole area of atheists who attack the bible.

Btw, in the other areas where just Chrisitans are found, my theology and theres isnt an issue, we ALL love Jesus, We all Worship God.

Its here where the rott is, so its here, that i am. Plenty of atheist forums online btw

Strawman, parts of it are not only for Christians. It is all for Christians. There are parts for Christians only. Do you understand that some is not all?

Rubricnigel · Oct 29, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
Just because people disagree with your interpretation does not mean that they "spit on the Bible".

And yes, wrong and evil customs and traditions need to be changed. Sometimes the change comes from within. For example the Bible does not oppose slavery and in fact supports it in many ways. At the time there were very few atheists so change to slavery had to come from within Christianity, though many Christians still defended slavery based upon the Bible.

Now that the world is more advanced the change often comes from without. The changes are still a change for the better.

Fixing your errors is not "hate". In fact maintaining your wrong beliefs is more apt to be "hate".

Chrisitans banned slavery.
Times were different then, but Christ set forth a new covenant.
My interpretation of the BIBLE is the Bible. You can't change what it says.

Errors, in the bible. Typical

Skreeper · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
Chrisitan Forum isnt the place for Chrisitans.
Imagine my shock, a whole area of atheists who attack the bible.

Btw, in the other areas where just Chrisitans are found, my theology and theres isnt an issue, we ALL love Jesus, We all Worship God.

Its here where the rott is, so its here, that i am. Plenty of atheist forums online btw

I sorry to inform you that not all Christians have such a fundamentalist view on things.
There are actually really nice and pleasant Christians here that don't feel the need to call me abomination every 5 minutes.

LostMarbels · Oct 29, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
So what? Islam has a different path. So does Buddhism, and Hinduism. If you want to claim that your belief is the correct one you put a huge burden of proof upon yourself that no one has been able to solve.

Jesus is mentioned in every one of those religions. No one argues Jesus existed. However only one religion confesses Jesus as Christ.

Rubricnigel · Oct 29, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
Strawman, parts of it are not only for Christians. It is all for Christians. There are parts for Christians only. Do you understand that some is not all?

I want it all, and i want it NOW!

I liked that song, did you?

Subduction Zone · Oct 29, 2018

Rubricnigel said:
Chrisitans banned slavery.
Times were different then, but Christ set forth a new covenant.
My interpretation of the BIBLE is the Bible. You can't change what it says.

Errors, in the bible. Typical

That is what I said, that change came from within. That went against biblical teaching. I love the old "New Covenant" fall back.

And you must know that there are countless errors in the Bible. I thought that you studied the book.

Rubricnigel · Oct 29, 2018

Skreeper said:
I sorry to inform you that not all Christians have such a fundamentalist view on things.
There are actually really nice and pleasant Christians here that don't feel the need to call me abomination every 5 minutes.

Your sin, is the problem. You are a human, you've let your sin define you. If you repented, asked for forgiveness and worked hard you would have the blessing of Jesus. And it the end you can walk in his light.

if you are saying you are Gay, there is time. Until the end, you can change. But we humans dont know when that time is.
Read the NT, pray, talk to a priest or someone who can help. Your immortal soul is at stake, ill pray for you, but you must take the first step.

Its never too late, till its too late!

TransGender library story time hour lawsuit tossed out by Judge.

Would you allow you kids to attend an event at the library if this person was reading the lgbtq book

Yes

No

Whats a library?

Regular Member

All-Lives-Matter

Regular Member

Regular Member

Well-Known Member

Regular Member

All-Lives-Matter

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Regular Member

Active Member

Regular Member

Recalcitrant Procrastinating Ape

Regular Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

All-Lives-Matter

Active Member

Regular Member

Active Member

Similar threads