US Secretary of State Backs Bid for Ukrainian Autocephaly

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I'm talking about the Mainstream Media. It has been shoving the Russia meddling in our 2016 election since the day after the election (even though it was discovered Clinton and her campaign managers already had this strategy before election day, and the pied piper strategy in promoting Trump to win the Republican primary as early as the summer/fall of 2015) down our throats. No evidence of Russian meddling was found as suspected, as it was just a distraction from the rigging done by Clinton and the DNC in the Dem. primary. That's what I'm talking about. Anything bad that happens in politics and such, it's Russia's doing. And nobody in the Clinton camp ever accused Russians of actually tampering and changing votes, just that they supposedly worked with Julian Assange to expose what the DNC/Podesta emails that showed their deception, which Assange denied that a Russian was his source.

ETA: and I also watch RT.
There are people who go off the deep end, but there's a "there" there when it comes to the Trump campaign and collusion as well as the obstruction of justice when it comes to impeding the investigation into it. However I do agree that the tack of "anybody who disagrees with me is a Russian bot" type of paranoia is bad. Americans are capable of being divisive on their own.
 
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There are people who go off the deep end, but there's a "there" there when it comes to the Trump campaign and collusion as well as the obstruction of justice when it comes to impeding the investigation into it. However I do agree that the tack of "anybody who disagrees with me is a Russian bot" type of paranoia is bad. Americans are capable of being divisive on their own.
Sure. I don't disagree on the majority of stuff reported on Trump. Incidentally, the fact that the Hillary Clinton when SOS sold uranium to Russia, nobody in the MSM bothered to report about that. If it's Trump, then they'll run with it. I'm not fan of Trump or Clinton. (I didn't vote for either of them). I just recognize the bias. There isn't any evidence on the Russian meddling because that was created by Clinton and her campaign manager shortly before she lost. It's recorded in a book called Shattered, and I'm not sure if it was mentioned in the Podesta emails. In any case, as Binney, former senior NSA analyst and code breaker said about these accusations of Russian meddling in our elections (which is rich considering all the meddling we do in other countries' elections, and topple their leaders to boot), the NSA would know and could track if the Russians meddled. And when the FBI says they have a "high confidence" that there is Russian meddling/involvement, means they don't have any evidence.

Yes, the Russia! Russia! Russia! hysterics have been embarrassing, imo.
 
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Of course its political.
Its sad that a religion has become a tool to be used as a foreign policy weapon against russia.

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Sure. I don't disagree on the majority of stuff reported on Trump. Incidentally, the fact that the Hillary Clinton when SOS sold uranium to Russia, nobody in the MSM bothered to report about that.
That's an inaccurate summary of what happened, but what of it?
If it's Trump, then they'll run with it. I'm not fan of Trump or Clinton. (I didn't vote for either of them). I just recognize the bias. There isn't any evidence on the Russian meddling because that was created by Clinton and her campaign manager shortly before she lost. It's recorded in a book called Shattered, and I'm not sure if it was mentioned in the Podesta emails. In any case, as Binney, former senior NSA analyst and code breaker said about these accusations of Russian meddling in our elections (which is rich considering all the meddling we do in other countries' elections, and topple their leaders to boot), the NSA would know and could track if the Russians meddled. And when the FBI says they have a "high confidence" that there is Russian meddling/involvement, means they don't have any evidence.

Yes, the Russia! Russia! Russia! hysterics have been embarrassing, imo.
We're devolving into a political discussion here rather than one of the faith, but if you want to see where I'm coming from, I'd suggest some of the reporting done on Lawfare.org which is decidedly not histrionic.
 
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That's an inaccurate summary of what happened, but what of it? We're devolving into a political discussion here rather than one of the faith, but if you want to see where I'm coming from, I'd suggest some of the reporting done on Lawfare.org which is decidedly not histrionic.
You are right. I apologize. Thanks for the link.
 
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