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5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. Jesus has just risen from the dead IN THE VISION.

6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Jesus JUST ASCENDED (in the vision) right after telling Mary not to touch Him for He had not yet ascended. NOTICE: in this verse, suddenly someone there that was NOT THERE a moment before.

7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
In the vision, John saw Jesus take the book - circa 32 AD - and as soon as He got the book, He began breaking seals.
It is not Jesus having just ascended. It is Jesus coming forth out of the glory surrounding the throne, projecting a transparent image of an lamb having just been slain as an overlay to his appearance as the reason why He is worthy. They are not worshiping an animal in heaven.

In Revelation 19, is the marriage supper of the Lamb - that certainly did not happen when Jesus ascended to heaven - and is still future.

Being the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, is what is being emphasized in Revelation, and as what makes Jesus worthy.
 
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Perhaps you are referring to a scripture that is eluding my memory? Please cite the scripture you are referring to.

It sounds like the woman in the basket, the WICKED woman in the basket. They took her away to Babylonia. OT, i don't understand what it's about. I only focus on the end times.

The Flying Scroll

1Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll. 2And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. 3Then said he unto me, This isthe curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it. 4I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name

The Woman in a Basket

5Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. 6And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.7And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. 8And he said, Thisis wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. 9Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
 
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It sounds like the woman in the basket, the WICKED woman in the basket. OT, i don't understand what it's about.
I only focus on the end times.
^_^
Zechariah 5
6 “What is it?” I asked. And he replied, “It is a measuring basket that is approaching.” Then he continued, “This is their iniquityc in all the land.”
7 And behold, the cover of lead was raised, and there was a woman sitting inside the basket. 8 “This is Wickedness,” he said. And he shoved her down into the basket, pushing down the lead cover over its opening. 9 Then I lifted up my eyes and saw two women approaching, with the wind in their wings. Their wings were like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.
10“Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking with me. 11 “To build a house for it in the land of Shinar,d ” he told me. “And when it is ready, the basket will be set there on its pedestal.”
I feel the same way when reading Ezekiel and harmonizing it to Revelation.
Lots of "way out there stuff" in it also...............

Such as this event:

Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament

Ezekiel 8:3
He stretched out the form of a hand, and took me by a lock of my hair;
and the Spirit lifted me up between earth and heaven, and brought me in visions of God to Jerusalem,
to the door of the north gate of the inner court, where the seat of the image of jealousy was, which provokes to jealousy. [Revelation 17:3]

Revelation 17:3
and he carried me away to a wilderness in the Spirit, and I saw a Woman sitting upon a scarlet-coloured beast, full of names of evil-speaking, having seven heads and ten horns, [Ezekiel 8:3]

EZEKIEL AND REVELATION PARALLEL

1. THRONE VISION - (Rev 4./Ezek 1).
2. THE BOOK (Rev 5/Ezek 2-3)
3. THE PLAGUES (Rev 6:1-8/Ezek 5).
4. Slain Beneath the Altar (Rev. 6:9-11/Ezek. 6)
5. WRATH OF GOD (Rev 6:12-17/Ezek 7).
6. SEAL ON SAINTS' FOREHEADS (Rev 7/Ezek 9)
7. COALS FROM ALTAR (Rev. 8/Ezek 10).
8. NO MORE DELAY (Rev. 10:1-7/Ezek 12).
9. EATING THE BOOK (Rev 10:8-11/Ezek. 2)
11. MEASURING THE TEMPLE (Rev. 11:1-2/Ezek. 40-43)
11. JERUSALEM AND SODOM (Rev. 11:8/Ezek 16)
12. CUP OF WRATH (Rev. 14/Ezek. 23).
13. VINE OF THE LAND (Rev. 14:18-20/Ezek 15)
14. GREAT HARLOT (Rev 17-18/Ezek. 16, 23).
15. LAMENT OVER THE CITY (Rev. 18/Ezek 27)
16. SCAVENGER'S FEAST (Rev. 19/Ezek 39)
17. FIRST RESURRECTION (Rev 20:4-6/Ezek 37).
18 BATTLE WITH GOG AND MAGOG (Rev. 20:7-9/Ezek 38-39)
19. NEW JERUSALEM (Rev 21/Ezek 40-48)
20. RIVER OF LIFE (Rev 22/Ezek 47)
 
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It sounds like the woman in the basket, the WICKED woman in the basket. They took her away to Babylonia. OT, i don't understand what it's about. I only focus on the end times.

The Flying Scroll

1Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll. 2And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. 3Then said he unto me, This isthe curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it. 4I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name

The Woman in a Basket

5Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. 6And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.7And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. 8And he said, Thisis wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. 9Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
Sin. The woman in the basket represents sin. Unrepented sin
 
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It sounds like the woman in the basket, the WICKED woman in the basket. They took her away to Babylonia. OT, i don't understand what it's about. I only focus on the end times.

The Flying Scroll

1Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll. 2And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. 3Then said he unto me, This isthe curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it. 4I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name

The Woman in a Basket

5Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. 6And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.7And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. 8And he said, Thisis wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. 9Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
this IS part of the end times
 
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Zechariah 5
Thanks for the scripture reference. I find it a fascinating correlation, particularly since it follows the reference to the two olive trees in Zechariah 4. I will need to ponder these scriptures at length before I feel I can comment on them substantively.
 
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Sin. The woman in the basket represents sin. Unrepented sin

No doubt.

this IS part of the end times

I doubt it.

I think Zechariah 5 probably had something to do with the Old Time Israel and Old Time Babylonia, not the harlot of Revelation and the end time Babylon.
 
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miknik5 said:
Sin. The woman in the basket represents sin. Unrepented sin
No doubt.
miknik5 said:
this IS part of the end times
I doubt it.

I think Zechariah 5 probably had something to do with the Old Time Israel and Old Time Babylonia, not the harlot of Revelation and the end time Babylon.
You posted this:
Dave Watchman said:
It sounds like the woman in the basket, the WICKED woman in the basket. OT, i don't understand what it's about.
I only focus on the end times.
Hi Dave.
You post reminds me of this one from a veteran CF poster [and very good friend of mind] debating on Evolution: :)
[The name and link will remain anonymous, but, I will be glad to send the link thru "conversation" message.]

********, Christian Forums [Comments (175)] [2006-Sep-12]
There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth.
Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least.
 
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No doubt.



I doubt it.

I think Zechariah 5 probably had something to do with the Old Time Israel and Old Time Babylonia, not the harlot of Revelation and the end time Babylon.
Nope it has everything to do with revelation 17
 
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You post reminds me of this one from a veteran CF poster [and very good friend of mind]: :)
[The name and link will remain anonymous, but, I will be glad to send the link thru "conversation" message.]

He sounds like a smart guy. I should copy it. It sounds like good material.

"There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth.
Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least.​

It reminds me of the guy that always posts in the atheist section, trying to make the case for embeded earth. Trying to convince the scientists that "time" could have been embeded into the rocks to fool the radiometric dating.

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The young earth guy.

The king James guy.
 
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He sounds like a smart guy. I should copy it. It sounds like good material.

"There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth.
Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least.​

It reminds me of the guy that always posts in the atheist section, trying to make the case for embeded earth. Trying to convince the scientists that "time" could have been embeded into the rocks to fool the radiometric dating.

The young earth guy.

The king James guy.
Yeah. We used to wreak havoc on the old, now defunct, GA board.
I had over half my posts on that board when it was "raptured" off CF [about 2008 I think].

Where is the general apologetics forum?

Oncedeceived said:
I haven't been here for a long while and I can't find general apologetics except for the archived ones. Thanks in advance.
This response by a "heathen" had me laughing so hard, I couldn't type a post for awhile ehehe
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Reminds of this song. Came out the year I graduated and enlisted in the service..



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Here’s another truth
Many Christians will be martyred because they will try to warn their Jewish unbelieving brothers not to build the temple

But the jews and this man of intrigue will imply that these Christians are meddlers and they will be killed
I think this is myth. I cannot find any scripture telling us this.

As for the temple: It is written in the bible that it will exist. And God told John to measure it and [count] the worshipers in it.

Did you read the last few chapters of Ezekiel - about the new temple?
 
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So when you see the beginnings of this covenant. Understand that this is the beginning of that delayed “week”
Do you think the church will SEE the beginning of this covenant?
What do you mean by the week being delayed?
 
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miknik5 said:
Here’s another truth
Many Christians will be martyred because they will try to warn their Jewish unbelieving brothers not to build the temple

But the jews and this man of intrigue will imply that these Christians are meddlers and they will be killed
I think this is myth. I cannot find any scripture telling us this.

As for the temple: It is written in the bible that it will exist. And God told John to measure it and [count] the worshipers in it.

Did you read the last few chapters of Ezekiel - about the new temple?
Glad you brought that up. One of my favorite studies.... :angel:

COURT IN REVELATION 11:2 "CAST OUT! OUTSIDE"


Mat 24:1 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple,
Mar 13:1 Then as He went out of the temple,
Luk 21:5 Then, as some spoke of the temple,


Revelation 11:
1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod/staff saying
"rise! and measure! the Sanctuary/Temple of the God and the Altar<2379> and those worshiping in it
2 and the Court/fold <833> outside of the Sanctuary/Temple<3485>, be Casting-Out!<1544> out-side<1854>,
and no it thou should be measuring,
That it was given to the nations
and the holy City they shall be treading forty two months



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Here’s another truth. I can read anything and be able to discern the truth and the lies as it relates to THE TRUTH in anything written by men
We will wait and see on this also. After you have written most posts, we will have a better idea.
 
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