Black Senior Citizens Ordered Off Bus Driving Them To Polls In Georgia

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Black Senior Citizens Ordered Off Bus Driving Them To Polls In Georgia
Someone didn't like the vision of Black elderly voters dancing with joy in anticipation of boarding a bus to vote in Louisville, Georgia. Someone didn't think Black people who had suffered through segregation and Jim Crow in the Deep South should publicly declare their votes mattered. Someone decided to try to scare some senior citizens in their nineties (NINETIES) from daring to be free and open in their equality as voters.

So, someone from the Leisure Senior Center told LaTosha Brown, founder of Black Voters Matter, that the roughly 40 seniors would need to get off the bus that was about to take them to the polls. Black Voters Matter, if you haven't guessed, is a grassroots outreach program whose goal is to help Black people "expand voter engagement." Can't have that in 2018, now can we?

Apparently someone from the Senior Center said they'd received a call about a complaint either to or from (these details are fuzzy) the County Commissioner's office about the Black Voters Matter bus, and whether or not it should be allowed to transport the seniors to the polling place. Now, keep in mind, there is no law against any bus, from transporting people to the polls in Georgia. But not wanting to make trouble in the small town, they complied.
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From the original article:

“Bonnie Wells, the clerk for the Jefferson County Commission, on Monday had denied allegations of voter suppression, telling ThinkProgress her office didn’t receive any calls complaining about Black Voters Matter’s activity. She said they made no attempt to interfere with the senior citizens riding the bus to the polls. Representatives from the senior center did not respond to requests for comment.”

So did they actually receive a call?
 
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Did you read the whole article, tulc? Even crooksandliars.com allowed some truth in for a change.
I actually do read the articles I post. That point they made was I thought one of the good parts of the story, I like when people have some balance to their reporting. :wave:
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I actually do read the articles I post. That point they made was I thought one of the good parts of the story, I like when people have some balance to their reporting. :wave:
tulc(is going to need more coffee soon) :sigh:
Usually I think lies are the worst part of the story when the story is supposed to be a news report.
 
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From the local news article we know they've all been taken to vote and the senior center was apparently always planning to do so. The issue was allowing some third party which was a political activist group do it. And I'd say that's pretty policy you don't want them being pressured to vote a certain way.

Claims of voter suppression by grassroots organization dismissed by senior citizens

Yes, liability issues matter as well today. We live in a very litigious society, and since they entered the property of the county to pick up these people? They could have very well been held liable if something happened to that bus on the way to the early voting places. Liability is an odd thing today. Things you don't think matter do, because someone sued in the past - and chances are won. Everyone covers their behind today.

From what I was reading? It seems if they had gone to the county prior, and transferred that liability to the group with the bus? It may not have happened that way.

Anyway, countries bussing seniors the polls isn't an unusual circumstance anywhere. They would have got there one way or another. They do that every election.

You have to wonder if they had picked up them OFF county property - somewhere else? If this could have been avoided. Like across the street or something.
 
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Yes, liability issues matter as well today. We live in a very litigious society, and since they entered the property of the county to pick up these people? They could have very well been held liable if something happened to that bus on the way to the early voting places. Liability is an odd thing today. Things you don't think matter do, because someone sued in the past - and chances are won. Everyone covers their behind today.

From what I was reading? It seems if they had gone to the county prior, and transferred that liability to the group with the bus? It may not have happened that way.

Anyway, countries bussing seniors the polls isn't an unusual circumstance anywhere. They would have got there one way or another. They do that every election.

You have to wonder if they had picked up them OFF county property - somewhere else? If this could have been avoided. Like across the street or something.

It's possible that picking a different location would have helped afterall it's not like this center is there guardian if the people were dropped off later they wouldn't be able to do much about it. Although aside from liability I can see why this senior center would want to keep politics out especially with activist groups like this all you'd need is one idiot doing a little pressuring to start a controversy. And the senior center would have to deal with mess pr and the activist and there group would be gone.
 
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It's possible that picking a different location would have helped afterall it's not like this center is there guardian if the people were dropped off later they wouldn't be able to do much about it. Although aside from liability I can see why this senior center would want to keep politics out especially with activist groups like this all you'd need is one idiot doing a little pressuring to start a controversy. And the senior center would have to deal with mess pr and the activist and there group would be gone.

Yes, and open themselves up to other lawsuits when other groups can't take them on some bus ride to where ever. If you open it up to one then you must open it up to all, and they don't want to get in the middle of that. Can't blame them there. I'm sure this group was very well intentioned, but that doesn't mean all of them are.
 
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Yes, and open themselves up to other lawsuits when other groups can't take them on some bus ride to where ever. If you open it up to one then you must open it up to all, and they don't want to get in the middle of that. Can't blame them there. I'm sure this group was very well intentioned, but that doesn't mean all of them are.

I don't think they were well intended instead they fall into the win at any cost political group which is very problem and very popular with both the right and left. If they were well intend we would have never heard about this when they found the senior center was going to take them they'd have just quietly moved on.
Also wonder if the person could even drive the bus legally here in Ohio you need a CDL for the full size ones and the smaller ones it gets kind of dicey with the size and wieght limits.
 
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I can see why local officials wouldn't want "the wrong people" to vote. However, they should have complied with the law, and allowed those people to go on the bus.

It was a bad decision to intervene unlawfully, and is likely to backfire as the word gets out.
 
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I can see why local officials wouldn't want "the wrong people" to vote. However, they should have complied with the law, and allowed those people to go on the bus.

It was a bad decision to intervene unlawfully, and is likely to backfire as the word gets out.
Where’s the evidence that it was local officials?
 
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Where’s the evidence that it was local officials?

A trip was orchestrated by the nonpartisan Black Voters Matter in an effort to encourage black people to vote. They were traveling on a bus tour visiting several states but things all came to a halt when someone called in complaining that the bus should not be allowed to bring people to the polls, per The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.


Adam Brett, Jefferson County Administrator said the trip violated guidelines put in place on county-sponsored events and that the trip was political.


Officials “felt uncomfortable with allowing senior center patrons to leave the facility in a bus with an unknown third party,” Brett told the AJC.
https://thehollywoodunlocked.com/ge...lack-voters-off-bus-taking-them-to-the-polls/

You see, they were black citizens, and so it was "political." Although the Black Voters Matter people didn't give any advice on who to vote for, local officials were "uncomfortable" about trusting black citizens to just go off on their own to vote.


As everyone knows, you can't let black folks make white folks "uncomfortable."



 
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Black Senior Citizens Ordered Off Bus Driving Them To Polls In Georgia

Georgia is where the Republican candidate for Governor also happens to be currently serving as that state's Attorney General - that puts him in an obvious conflict of interest whereby as AG he can also determine who is allowed to vote for/ against him in the upcoming election!

Apparently this AG has quietly deleted over 50 000 voters from the rolls - without making any attempt to notify those individuals!
 
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