Elizabeth Warren DNA results show she was right.

I think this whole thing is an exercise in absurdity. Genetically, everyone is related somehow. We could all use genetics to claim to be just about whatever we want, especially if any arbitrarily small % of our genetic makeup qualifies.

The truth is that minority status boils down to social conventions, be that cultural divides and traditions or mere appearances and stereotypes.

If Warren is Native American, then I claim relation to Santa Claus since we share genetic ancestry out of Africa. Warren and Trump both go on the family's naughty list.

tulc said:

hmmm...I might just point out there's now more evidence to support her claim to having a native American ancestor then President Trump's claim to be a genius or a billionaire.
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I would say equal evidence of being a genius for Trump and a Cherokee ( especially given the statement by the Cherokees) for Warren(meaning that neither claim has any evidence to back it up.).As for billionaire there is a bit more evidence for Trump being a billionaire than Warren being a member of the Cherokee tribe. Of course being a billionaire doesn't entitle one to any cache or give one a leg up in the identity politics sweepstakes. Being a white male billionaire actually is a very big minus there.

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As an example, for me, the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Nation requires 1/16th Cherokee blood. This is determined the 1924 Baker Roll and one's ancestor must be listed on it.

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I more than qualify for a Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood card from the Cherokee Nation, but I don't want their blood money and I certainly don't want to be paid for simply being an NDN. I don't want the money from the tribe or the U.S. government in the pathetic attempt to recompense for either forcibly removing Native Americans from their tribal lands just so white people could have all that land for themselves or mercilessly slaughtering Native Americans for their tribal lands.

They can't pay back for the Trail of Tears, Sand Creek and Wounded Knee or for all the other countless massacres and atrocities that the United States committed against Native Americans.

Go Braves said:

It'd be nice if Trump would just man up, pay the money to charity. Do some good. But he won't.

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I may be wrong, but didn't he originally qualify that he had to do the test himself? So he still doesn't owe a million dollars...

Rion said:

No it doesn't. Senator Elizabeth Warren DNA test indicates that one of her 1064 ancestors from 10 generations ago "may" have been native American making her 1/1024 native American. White American average genetic makeup is 0.18% (1/600) Native American.

She's super white.

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Whiter than Shaun White at a Vanilla Ice concert.

Daftendirekt said:

Whiter than Shaun White at a Vanilla Ice concert.

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White? Do you mean European, or maybe Northern European ancestry?

Messerve said:

I may be wrong, but didn't he originally qualify that he had to do the test himself? So he still doesn't owe a million dollars...

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Well the Fox News headline was: Trump: 'Pocahontas' Warren, I'll Give $1M to Her Favorite Charity to Take DNA Test

She did just that.

Did this guy USE native American DNA? No.. so what is she if this guy did not use Native American DNA. Hmm. haha.. thinking.. I MUST play nice here. Coming form this world.. my dad Nez Perez Indian..having pearl blankets..huge Buffalo.. you name it..Rifle from the custer battle (later given to the museum) Hearing the music all my life blah blah blah. Have a sister Turning robe.. .. anyway. . No tribe or the like what so ever would ..sorry consider her. One has to take all the facts. WHAT DNA was used?

As for the million.. I am not sure how people for got Prez Trump saying.. in a debate with her.. you know RUNNING for Prez.. Strange how that part has been left out by SOME News Media stations..

Yarddog said:

Elizabeth Warren Just Shared a DNA Test Showing She Has Native American Ancestry

Well, she was correct though it wasn't much but Trump owes 1 million or add another lie to his growing account.

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Cherokee Nation responds to Senator Warren’s DNA test

Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr.

TAHLEQUAH, Okla. — Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. issued the following statement Monday in response to Senator Elizabeth Warren’s DNA test claiming Native Heritage:

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

eleos1954 said:

Cherokee Nation responds to Senator Warren’s DNA test

Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr.

TAHLEQUAH, Okla. — Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. issued the following statement Monday in response to Senator Elizabeth Warren’s DNA test claiming Native Heritage:

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

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Not all Cherokees agree with the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. As Go Braves demonstrated in his thread with the article about the Chief of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians supporting her.

Go Braves said:

Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians chief voices support for Elizabeth Warren after she sparked controversy for taking a DNA test to prove her Native American ancestry

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Yarddog said:

Since she didn't claim Cherokee heritage that doesn't help any.

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In this, now viral video, it seems she thought that she was part Cherokee and Delaware.

tulc said:

...really? Because my impression was it actually supports it.


Thank you, that was the point I was making. She has now offered more proof then President Trump has shown in support of his claims.
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By that standard of "proof", I'm black. And Asian. And White. And Native. And royalty! And I'm sure a few more things. Because, hey, someone somewhere 10+ generations back has reproduced with someone in these categories.

Complete nonsense. She had no business ever claiming minority status as she did in the 80's and 90's, even listing herself as a minority in a directory.

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By that standard of "proof", I'm black. And Asian. And White. And Native. And royalty! And I'm sure a few more things. Because, hey, someone somewhere 10+ generations back has reproduced with someone in these categories.

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...if that's so why does President Trump make such a big deal about it? Because it's his constant harping about it that keeps bringing it back up.

Complete nonsense. She had no business ever claiming minority status as she did in the 80's and 90's, even listing herself as a minority in a directory.

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Proof for this would be a nice thing to see here. Something where she's shown using it, not a claim someone else makes about her. :wave
tulc(is a fan of proof)

tulc said:

Proof for this would be a nice thing to see here. Something where she's shown using it, not a claim someone else makes about her. :wave
tulc(is a fan of proof)

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The Boston Globe has an interesting story, and what I think most take the 'minority status' from.

Albion said:

Nice try, Senator Warren, but having one ancestor from 200 years ago or so does not make you or anyone an Indian

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Try telling that to the 'Irish in Boston.

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True, she should not have listed herself as Native American but that really wasn't a big deal. She gained nothing from it. It wasn't a big deal until Republicans started screaming about it during her campaign against Scott Brown around 20 years later. Then Trump began spouting off about it and challenged her to produce proof and she gave it, though it certainly what she thought it would be but DNA shows she does have Native American blood.

Hopefully, she will sit down with Tribal leaders from the Delaware and Cherokee Councils and apologize and explain herself, without cameras.

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I thought what she did was rather dumb. She listed herself as a minority. In this day and age - it is a big deal. We really don't know how much or how less she gained. Sure we can speculate, but in the end we can't say realistically. If she had told the family story, and left it at that? No biggie. We all have family stories. She didn't really stop the presses when they used it - her Indian Ancestry. It wasn't until it was questioned did she backpedal - and then in the end admitted to using it.

The GOP wouldn't 'scream' about it if she had NOT used it, and she admits she did. It's something any political party would use against their opponent today - and in the past. lol Let's get real here! It is politics after all! The DEMS would use it too.

On a sarcastic note? Anyone with .09 percentage or more or less - could now use their Asian heritage as part of the lawsuit against Harvard if they didn't get in. (Speaking about the lawsuit against Harvard and their 'quotas' that are alleged, and if the person actually applied to get in Harvard - and was rejected.)

My grandmother filed a claim regarding lineage YEARS ago for her Tribal incestry too. Her particular tribe were receiving payments via their program - not to get specific here. Let's use say she could have got a monthly dividend. Me personally? I don't claim that part of my incestry. I claim MUTT status like most of us. I don't find that I have enough bloodline to do that, and I wouldn't do it under those bases. lol I have more than she (Warren) does - just FYI - it seems.