I'm not sure if your post was a reply to mine but in case it was i must point out that -
"The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
"A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps"
"being predestined according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will"
"Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places."
"i will do all my pleasure" *hint - (That big book called the bible says these things)
you said, "If anyone believes that God chooses or allows evil when He can choose otherwise, is foolish and manipulative"
i think you mean foolish or intent on evil, manipulation after all can be towards good,
but the important point is that the the evil allowed is necessary for the creation of beings capable of being glorified, so god doesn't enjoy the temporary suffering within the creation, but it is still his will and pleasure that it all occurs.
your water supply analogy is off completely as the poison and antidote don't confer eternal life as glorified co-heirs with yeshuah, it just gets people sick then back to how they were before.
If created us and satan, let satan tempt us, let us be deceived, then provides yeshuah for the antidote then i would not be overly grateful for yeshuah's sacrifice at all, but because its for our glorification process,
(something not possible for pre-knowledge of good and evil adam and eve) then good.
Overall tho that redemption was gods responsibility for creating beings that were capable of knowing good and evil to begin with, so i am not the type of happy clappy christian that only lives to praise jesus for saving me, fk that, its because god is allmighty and has great plans for us in the new heaven and earth, (and here now + millenial kingdom to a limited degree) that i honor him.
i don't know what the rest of your post is going on about really but i'm going to have dinner, yum
If, as we believe that Jesus is the revealing of the Father and His nature to humankind, then how come Jesus never deliberately made anyone suffer or have hardship so that good may come out of it or that God may be glorified. Some asked the question, "What sin did man's parents do that he was born blind?" Jesus answered, "It is the healing of the man, giving him sight, which glorifies God". Therefore, the disability did not glorify God, but the miracle of healing.
If the fruit of the Spirit is the reflection of God's character in us, then if God acted in any other way, wouldn't that be hypocritical? If God expects us to conduct ourselves with love, peace, joy, kindness, gentleness, patience, goodness, and self-control, wouldn't God be conducting Himself in the same way. Is that Christ in us, the hope of glory?
So, does God will cancer, rape, genocide, molestation, robbery, embezzlement, poverty, ethnic cleansing for people? Or is it because man has free choice and therefore it is man's will that frustrates God's will for mankind, which is to give all people a future and a hope?
If you think that God is a bad God who wills evil things on people, then that must be God's will in heaven. So your prayer "Thy will be done as it is in heaven", means that cancer, rape, molestation, genocide, etc are in heaven and that you are praying that these things are to happen on earth as part of God's will for people. There is something wrong with that picture, is it not?
But if these evil things do not exist in heaven, then the prayer is that none of these things should be happening on earth if God is to have His own way. Otherwise, you cannot honestly pray that prayer without being hypocritical.
Therefore if these things are not the will of God, or are His intention for us for any reason, then we have to say that these evil things are the work of the devil. And Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil, not to put it on people for some reason.
When God says that He has made the wicked for the day of evil, and that He does all things for His pleasure, one has to balance that with His unwllingness that any should perish but that all may come to repentence. But many refuse God's invitation, so they will come to judgment. Also, God gets no pleasure in evil. That's what my Bible says too.
So, you if you encounter a person with terminal cancer, what are you going to do? Say it is God's will for that person to suffer and die a slow agonsing death to glorify God? How does that relate to the fruit of the Spirit?
Or are you going to do what Jesus commanded you to do - use your faith and heal the person in the Name of Jesus? That's what a friend of Jesus would do, because He said, "You are My friends if you do what I command you." So if you don't use the Name of Jesus to heal that person, then are you really a friend of Jesus, doing what He commands you to do?