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First, as I told you before, nobody can obey God without the Lord (See John 15:5).
But while God can do the good work through us (so as to obey His commandments), He does not force us to do His good will. We actually have to surrender to the Lord and decide to obey Him. We have to study to show ourselves approved unto God. God is not going to study His Word for us and God is not going to obey for us.
Second, Jesus said to the rich young ruler,
"If you will enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matthew 19:17).
The rich young ruler asked,
"Which ones?"
Jesus said,
"Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. " (Matthew 19:18-19).
Did Jesus say not to worry about the commands and just follow your conscience?
No.
The Bible says,
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9).
"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." (Proverbs 14:12).
(2 Corinthians 3:3)
If what you say is true, then all the commands in the New Testament are just useless background noise or useless old newspapers to be burned and we should just follow our conscience instead.
(2 Corinthians 3:3) (2 Corinthians 3:6)
No, I am saying that their is a difference between the "letter" of the Law (as even Paul emphasizes or puts in quotations in 2 Corinthians 3:3) and the Spirit of it which is written on our hearts, but to get it truly in our hearts, we need to purified (washed) in the blood of Jesus Christ... Before that it is desperately wicked and sinful and deceitful... But there is a transformation going on and involved there, in that heart... and it should be guided by a born again transformed Spirit or conscience in you... For that is the Spirit of all law, and all letters of every law, but, only when the heart and conscience is purified or is in the process of being purified or transformed...
Let's read the part of the Bible that you are alluding to.
"For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God." (Hebrews 7:19).
Is this talking about Law in general or the Law of Moses from the Old Covenant?
It is talking about the letter of the law, cause it can make no exceptions or it gets so extremely complicated, that only a God, The God, can handle it or know it...
It is like a program that is flawed and creates errors and eventually crashes or falls or fails (the letter of the law, any especially moral law...
Verse 5 says,
"And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law,..." (Hebrews 7:5).
Are the Levites who receive office of the priesthood and who have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the Law talking about the commands given to us by Jesus and His followers or is this talking about the 613 laws within the Law of Moses under the Old Covenant?
Surely it is talking about the Old Law and not the New Law under Christ.
As for exceptions of the Law:
So is there an exceptions to prostitution, hurting children, axe murdering, idolatry, loving God, loving the brethren, etc.?
Do you really honestly think there are exceptions to these kinds of sins?
I'm saying only God would know... Is there ever, I cannot say, but I am reminded of Joyce Meyers dad... And a few others... Also people God chose in the Bible, sinful people...
God put His commands in the Bible for a reason and not for you to ignore them or to treat them as unimportant. They are essential to the faith.
I'm not doing that, and don't do that, as I already told you...
1 John 3:23 is a command that tells you to believe on Jesus.
Is there an exception to this command?
Surely not.
You misunderstand, I am not dismissing the commandments of God at all, just the way some people interpret them and go about "doing" them, much of the time it is very self-serving in some way, shape, or form (and is sin)... And, as I said, like a form of righteousness that is not true righteousness, and is actually anti-true righteousness, disguised as the real, these ones I oppose...
The Old Law made nothing perfect. This is not talking about the commands that are a part of the faith under the New Covenant. Hebrews 10 talks about those who died who despised Moses Law. So while the Old Law made nothing perfect, people could still die by disobeying the Law. Hebrews 10:26 says if we willfully sin after we receive the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin.
6 "Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did.
7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.”
8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died.
9 We should not test Christ, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes.
10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel." (1 Corinthians 10:6-10).
All these things are known in and by the heart, a new heart that is...
You are judging now by telling me it is wrong for me to judge. That is like the pot calling the kettle black. If you do not believe it is right to judge at all, then you cannot say anything in opposition of what you feel is wrong; Nor can you admit to seeing evils done in the world as being evils. If a serial killer does horrible unimaginative evils to kids.... Would you honestly say that you cannot judge that kind of evil he does and you would refuse to say it is wrong?
You perverting what I am saying, see down a little further...
Why pity and get angry at Hitler if you do not think we can judge?
You cannot judge Hitler's actions because you said that it is not our place to judge.
If we judge with righteous judgement, it might be possible, but I think very, very, very few of us actually know what this truly righteous judgement, and being truly righteous is, and in that case very, very few us should judge...
And killing in self defense is completely justifiable, and we have to be good judges of when that is necessary...
Let me make this clear... I am not saying that we never, ever judge anyone or anything, your twisting my words to mean that, or took it that way, I am saying that if we find out where not doing it right or cannot do it right, then we hold off judging until we think we can or do judge right, so that level heads will prevail in the end...
If we ask God for help in judging ourselves and in having the fear of the Lord, then God will help us with that because it is in line with His Word.
Why do you want to judge others...?
You cannot take action against others without judging their evils. If there was no judgment upon evil then there would be no police, judicial system, etc. keeping the peace. People could commit crimes and not worry about any punishment. Laws (along with law enforcement) are put into place to keep a peaceful society. Judging goes along with that.
I'm talking about judging and condemning them mistreating and/or abusing them, especially judging their eternal fate or behavior personally as person done inaccurately, is the worst kind of sin sometimes...
By exceptions to the rules I'm also talking about who God picks and choose to save and leave behind, I mean look at some of the people he chose, many of them very sinful people really, but something caused them to be made and exception in God's eyes...
And I'm mainly talking in a religious context, or our good works, of course sometimes we have to judge a person's bad acts, but it should not be because we want to or judge them personally or in and eternal fate concept...
We do not know the final fate of a person. A person can repent five seconds after we stopped talking to them. We do not know what people will do. But it is our job as believers to not sugarcoat the truth in what God's Word says.
The warnings in the Bible on how sin can separate a believer are very real.
We as believers have to let our fellow brethren know the dangers of sin and how it can destroy their souls; Or don't you think a believer cannot fall away from the faith?
Maybe fall out of favor with men, but whether it is so with God and them or not, Only God can know, judge, and tell perfectly...
Glad we can agree on this point.
I as well... How many peoples good works or actions or deeds are truly like that though...?
I believe your thinking that we cannot judge is flawed. Try doing a study on this topic in the Bible sometime (from an unbiased viewpoint) and it will surprise you.
I told what context I am talking about, and how we do have to judge bad sometimes already, but that the way in which most of us do it should be different cause it is sinful...
Yeah, I don't believe that is biblical.
Too bad for you... It could be that Jesus (God the Son) is the bridge, the one who reaches out and touches (the unclean) and saves sinners and brings them before God the Father maybe, to then be reconciled to him, and we would have been separate from God the Father, before then, and up until that time, but not after...
Anyways, may God bless you, too;
And may His goodness be upon you (even if we disagree).
Thanks Jason, you as well...
God Bless!
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