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“In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the power of refutation. It is a great subject I am dwelling on. The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through—Gods. The heads of the Gods appointed one God for us; and when you take [that] view of the subject, it sets one free to see all the beauty, holiness and perfection of the Gods.” (Teachings [of the Prophet Joseph Smith], p. 372.)
Enrichment Section A: Who Is the God of the Old Testament

How many "heads of the Gods" are there?
 

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While I will not go against any teachings of the Mormon Church, the teachings of a mere mortal Joseph Smith I believe is quite questionable.

He actually re-wrote the Bible, put in line laws for Mormons as for the Doctrine and Covenants, and wrote The Pearl of Great Price.

To be a Mormon, you cannot drink alcohol or smoke tobacco (good stuff there), you cannot have caffeine, you must go to the Temple and abide by rules there, wear garments which are underwear which consist of long t-shirts and special underwear which you cannot take off except for bathing, give 10% of your income to the Church, and the weddings inside the Temple are called "sealings.'

Also, the Church teaches three levels of heaven: Celestial, terrestial, and telestial. Women who pass on to heaven are expected to give birth to sprititual children for eternity.

Also in the Temples, people are baptized by proxy for the dead. From the Mormon genealogy, which is quite inclusive and considered a prime source for finding one's ancestry, anyone in any genealogy is always baptized by proxy.

Not only that, but young men of college age are bound to be missionaries and are sent to places to spread the word of the Mormon Church. That is a two-year "mission" required of the men to become Melchizedek order of the the priesthood. Women are not allowed any of this, and are relegated to being auxiliary and no voice in the church.

I believe that any church such as this which requires odd underwear, a mandatory tithe, a following of just one man, Joseph Smith who never proved his findings of the golden plates (we have proof of the Bible, Dead Sea Scrolls,etc). who apparently wrote the Book of Mormon, and he, along with Brigham Young, espoused polygamy.

While I do admire all what the Mormon Church does in helping the needy and poor, there is no question to the fact that this is at least a cult; at best an unfounded religion based on man-made rules.

If you need more, just Google.
 
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While I will not go against any teachings of the Mormon Church, the teachings of a mere mortal Joseph Smith I believe is quite questionable.

If you go against what Joseph Smith taught you will be going against the teaching of the mormon church.
 
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To be a Mormon, you cannot drink alcohol or smoke tobacco (good stuff there), you cannot have caffeine,

LOL!! Neither do we!! We go even further--most of us are vegetarian and white vinegar is frowned upon----but that is about all we have in common!
 
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This is a good question.
This small sentence is the keystone to the issue

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." Gen 3:22

Self awareness, the ability to stand back from an action and see its morality.
We are made in the image of God, and now we are like Him in understanding.

Satan reached out, and thought he could stand alone also.
Adams fall was one of failure of trust and communion choosing death over
continuing in the relationship. The serpent said

"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.
"For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." Gen 3:4-5

Being immortal or having knowledge does not make us God.
Even having creative powers or abilities does not make us God.

God is love. 1 John 4:8

To learn how this squares with holiness and truth and justice is a life long
walk.

Jesus calls us to be one with one another, in this love that He brings.
Look at how hard we find this to be, and how divided we are in just
interpreting and knowing how to work this out.
Look at our most intimate and close relationships, and know the tumult
that is part of families.

In ourselves we are far from this God. So in part we are like God, but
if we have authority and power, we would destroy all we touched.
Just look at the world and how hard we find it to have peace.
 
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To be a Mormon, you cannot drink alcohol or smoke tobacco (good stuff there), you cannot have caffeine,

Well it is now 100 percent official - Mormon's are allowed to drink coke and more specifically caffeine, just not tea or coffee.

'The Church’s health guidelines prohibits alcoholic drinks, smoking or chewing of tobacco, and 'hot drinks' — taught by Church leaders to refer specifically to tea and coffee.'

However while some Mormons have said that they are pleased by the official announcement, most grew up believing that Coca-Cola and Pepsi were equal to tea and coffee.
Mormon church confirms its members are allowed to drink coke and pepsi.. but tea is still banned | Daily Mail Online
 
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The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through—Gods

However it is referring to
GOD THE FATHER
GOD THE SON
GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT

Spoke by GOD
Deuteronomy 5:7
Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
 
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Well it is now 100 percent official - Mormon's are allowed to drink coke and more specifically caffeine, just not tea or coffee.

'The Church’s health guidelines prohibits alcoholic drinks, smoking or chewing of tobacco, and 'hot drinks' — taught by Church leaders to refer specifically to tea and coffee.'

However while some Mormons have said that they are pleased by the official announcement, most grew up believing that Coca-Cola and Pepsi were equal to tea and coffee.
Mormon church confirms its members are allowed to drink coke and pepsi.. but tea is still banned | Daily Mail Online

I was always told that there was no prohibition against caffeinated soft drinks.
 
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No one knows --- it's speculation.

LOL! For us it's caffeine, people may not agree with it but at least there is a reason--makes no sense to outlaw coffee and tea but not caffeinated drinks. It's the sugar and caffeine (and acid) that can wreck your health---oh well, no one has accused them of making sense.
 
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LOL! For us it's caffeine, people may not agree with it but at least there is a reason--makes no sense to outlaw coffee and tea but not caffeinated drinks. It's the sugar and caffeine (and acid) that can wreck your health---oh well, no one has accused them of making sense.

Well, to each his own. I like coffee, tea, and many soft drinks (pop). My mother liked them, too, and lived to be ninety-three.
 
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Not only that, but young men of college age are bound to be missionaries and are sent to places to spread the word of the Mormon Church. That is a two-year "mission" required of the men to become Melchizedek order of the the priesthood. Women are not allowed any of this, and are relegated to being auxiliary and no voice in the church...

Going on a mission is voluntary and the male or female must be worthy. Faithful Mormon parents strongly encourage their sons to go on missions.
 
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Well, to each his own. I like coffee, tea, and many soft drinks (pop). My mother liked them, too, and lived to be ninety-three.

I can't handle caffeine--makes my heart nuts. But I absolutely love the smell of fresh ground coffees--I used to love to go into coffee shops just to smell it! I can do about 1/4 c without my heart doing too many flipflops. Never was able to handle any kind of cigarettes either--I don't like the way they smell anyway--but I do love the smell of pipe tobacco!
 
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He is the central focus of our worship. He is the Son of the living God, the Firstborn of the Father, the Only Begotten in the flesh, who left the royal courts on high to be born as a mortal in the most humble of circumstances.
Gordon B. Hinckley, We Look to Christ, General Conference, April 2002
We Look to Christ - Gordon B. Hinckley

As the Supreme Being, God the Father should be the object of our love and worship (see D&C 18:40; 20:29; Joshua 22:5; Mark 12:30; D&C 4:2; Luke 4:8).
Doctrines of the Gospel Student Manual, Chapter 3
Chapter 3: God the Eternal Father
 
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