Just how many 'Human Rights' do people in the U.S. really care about?

I want to live in a world where "tribes", be they ethnic or religious or political, can overcome hatred and work together for the betterment of all.

I try not to think about it. The effects of the sin nature only goes away through Jesus, and Americans have some of the hardest hearts in the world due to a history of widespread wealth, arrogance, and joyful acceptance of some sins (although not everyone). An anecdote I once heard: a foreign Christian evangelist came to America and found no one would listen to him, so he went back home. I'm reminded of "the three men I admire most, the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost—they caught the last train for the coast." (from the song American Pie by Don McLean)

I am overwhelmed if I look out on the streets and let myself see lost sheep.

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. (Matthew 23:37-38, 1984 NIV)

Just how many 'Human Rights' do people in the U.S. really care about?

Usually, only those that directly affect them at the moment.

It depends on the influences and values we were taught as children.

2PhiloVoid said:

And why might this be the case, do you think?

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Just complacency mostly. We have it pretty easy compared to some countries and do not have to face most issues of freedom. Except for minorities, etc.

2PhiloVoid said:

That would indeed be a great goal for those of us in the U.S. (and Canada, too, I suppose) to achieve, wouldn't it? Why do you think it's so difficult for us to do this when we have our "liberty and justice for all" mantra to live by?

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I think part of the answer lies in the linkage between rightwing religion and politics in recent decades and the fearful reaction of the left to that.

JackRT said:

I want to live in a world where "tribes", be they ethnic or religious or political, can overcome hatred and work together for the betterment of all.

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unfortunately that won't happen anytime soon because the media is full of sensation seeking parasites. most americans don't even know 22 veterans commit suicide everyday in these trillion dollar wars which result in millions dead (korea, vietnam, iraq, etc).

and gullible neocons will call you unpatriotic for calling out the governments corruption

Phoebe Ann said:

It depends on the influences and values we were taught as children.

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She also didn't tell you (because she doesn't know) that love (agape) has propriety; one of the misunderstood stumblingstones of love in a heterogeneous society.

2PhiloVoid said:

Here we are, one big happy family in the U.S., right? Not. We've apparently gotten confused on just where the world was about 75-100 years ago and the millions of lives that were lost because some people can't seem to overcome some of their emotional disequilibrium (or outright sociopathic tendencies) in dealing with those who disagree with them.

So, let's very quickly review just where we've come and where we might be going in this big tri-color country as we sit among the political briar patch, batting each other over the head while we stand in this even larger global matrix which we seem so PROUD to lead:

Now, whether you're Christian or you identify as something else ideologically: what kind of world do you want to continue to live in and what kind of people can actually bring that about?

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I have friends on all sides of the spectrum. One thing we can all agree upon is people need to get out of tribes, and remember we are all human beings. Tribes tend to bring these monolithic stereotypes, and don't know what to do with those that don't fit the mold they created. So, they tend to attack them.

You will always have this to come extent, but it is more focused on today. X Tribe have their ideology, and other tribes outside X tribe include extra traits they claim they have - normally negative - that can be included. Tribe leaders tend to inform you how all of them (outside your tribe) think alike. People's claim to fame is to present the negative aspects that they claim to see in other tribes, and tend to encourage others to hate them...lol then claim they are against diversity. Projection is normally next - telling you why X group normally hates you only due to the fact your outside their tribe, and it's expected of them to hate you. So, the only recourse should be fear and animus.

Next you see articles and presentations claiming people don't know about this issue or don't care that issue. Then claim the majority of the population agrees with their point of view. Each tribe presents themselves that the best thing since sliced bread, and of course anyone outside of that train of thought is evil.

Problem is majority of the population doesn't get the tribe thing, and doesn't tend to mold themselves into them. Yet that is NOT what is proclaimed by all the loudmouth tribe leaders as they use shame tactics and manipulative emotional statements to hopefully bring them to arms like they have so many others.

That's when you get silly questions like the thread's title. How many human rights to people in the US really care about. Suggesting of course they are negating important ones - due to monolithic stereotypes - and need to be reminded to turn from their evil ways...and remember human rights are important.

I don't see a way out unless people stop thinking of their tribe mentality, and start to appreciate the differences among us. How differences are not be feared or hated. How negatives shouldn't be the first thing that comes to mind. Until that happens? Chances of us seeing the issues of human rights outside their tribe - or alleged tribe for most of us - is going to be almost impossible. It breaks your heart.

QUOTE="DidYouSaySomething, post: 73452064, member: 415204"]unfortunately that won't happen anytime soon because the media is full of sensation seeking parasites. most americans don't even know 22 veterans commit suicide everyday in these trillion dollar wars which result in millions dead (korea, vietnam, iraq, etc).
and gullible neocons will call you unpatriotic for calling out the governments corruption[/QUOTE
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They also don't know how many die every day, (for over 20 years around 20,000 per year) from a tiny baby pill (for now will remain un-named on this forum)
the doctor tells them to take every day. (thankfully? This did come out in the national broadcasts, televised news, last year)

Do you feed your own baby or do you watch your baby die of starvation while you give his/her food to strangers?

What would a good Father think was appropriate for His people to do?

God says we are to love our neighbor as ourselves, but some are stepping over 50 neighbors to get to someone who is outside "the tribe" so they can somehow feel superior about helping the needy. Certainly those neighbors they stepped over was useless to them.

Hazelelponi said:

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What would a good Father think was appropriate for His people to do?
God says we are to love our neighbor as ourselves, but some are stepping over 50 neighbors to get to someone who is outside "the tribe" so they can somehow feel superior about helping the needy. Certainly those neighbors they stepped over was useless to them.

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You have seen it a lot in the usa. Government, agencies, churches, charities , groups doing for 'show' instead of obediently to God's Word, instead of following Jesus with their whole life.... thus mis-representing God and God's Plan.

Hazelelponi said:

Do you feed your own baby or do you watch your baby die of starvation while you give his/her food to strangers?

What would a good Father think was appropriate for His people to do?

God says we are to love our neighbor as ourselves, but some are stepping over 50 neighbors to get to someone who is outside "the tribe" so they can somehow feel superior about helping the needy. Certainly those neighbors they stepped over was useless to them.

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True. Christians are to come out of the world, and to prefer one another. Charity begins at home before committing aid to a foreign country.

JackRT said:

I want to live in a world where "tribes", be they ethnic or religious or political, can overcome hatred and work together for the betterment of all.

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I want to live in a world where there are no tribes at all and everyone is just a "citizen of the world" and a "member of the human species".

mmksparbud said:

Just complacency mostly. We have it pretty easy compared to some countries and do not have to face most issues of freedom. Except for minorities, etc.

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Minorities are more likely to resemble 'tribes' than whites in America. They should try harder to resemble the majority. I think more about the opportunities in America than human rights. Minorities already have "a place at the table" as Jesse Jackson phrases it, but their leaders continue to foment dissatisfaction in that regard.

I don't think starting the bottom and working your way up violates anyone's human rights. It worked for me.

JackRT said:

I want to live in a world where "tribes", be they ethnic or religious or political, can overcome hatred and work together for the betterment of all.

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We can't overcome hatred without overcoming differences.