Mitchell Tells Senators There's No Case Against Kavanaugh

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And Mitch McConnell employed unpresidented ;) delay tactics which we all witnessed.
That's not true. The "delay" of Garland was consistent with what's normally done when a SCOTUS slot opens during a president's last year. And there wasn't a search and destroy smear done on Garland.
 
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That's not true. The "delay" of Garland was consistent with what's normally done when a SCOTUS slot opens during a president's last year. And there wasn't a search and destroy smear done on Garland.

That is an absolute falsehood. Perhaps there are some examples from very late in a fourth year or during lame duck status, I don't know, but there is NO precedent for refusing to even hold hearings for a year. In fact that closest you can get to a similar situation was in 1852 when Justice McKinley died Millard Fillmore's efforts to nominate a replacement were held up by the Senate until the election.

McKinley died in July. Scalia died in February.

How so? You're the one who brought up Garland in the first place.

It's a non sequitur because there is no requirement, provision or, well, anything that says a president cannot nominate and have, at the very least, hearings in their final year in office. Thus your response does not follow the fact that Judge Garland was nominated and Mitch McConnell single-handedly blocked the nomination for a year. Your comment simply wasn't germane.

It sounds like you're confusing the name Mitch McConnell with Diane Feinstein.

No, I actually understand that the ranking minority member of the judiciary committee (Sen Feinstein), while powerful, has very little control over the agenda; unlike the committee chair (Mitch McConnell) who had all the power of whether a judge even get's a hearing, much less a vote.
 
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Good point.

Which raises the question of whether the GOP would've invoked the nuclear option for SCOTUS nominations if the Democrats hadn't done so for the lesser federal judges... I suppose we'll never know.
 
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Deflect away.

What deflection? I said that if Kavanaugh was guilty, there are already far too many on the Right who would've wanted him in anyway -- "It was a long time ago," after all...

Politics, first, last, and always.
 
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Mitchell Tells Senators There's No Case Against Kavanaugh

Only 41% of the nation supports the Kavanaugh confirmation and that drops to 33% for women - the Republican's may take some comfort in Mitchell's reassurances, but this whole affair will serve as just another nail in the Trump Administration's coffin come the 2018 Interims!
 
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What deflection? I said that if Kavanaugh was guilty, there are already far too many on the Right who would've wanted him in anyway -- "It was a long time ago," after all...

Politics, first, last, and always.

If he was guilty, then Ford should have done something about it much longer ago than 36 years. If Kavanaugh hadn't been picked for the Supreme Court, this woman would still be waiting to tell her story. How convenient that she finally found the time to tell it!
 
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If he was guilty, then Ford should have done something about it much longer ago than 36 years. If Kavanaugh hadn't been picked for the Supreme Court, this woman would still be waiting to tell her story. How convenient that she finally found the time to tell it!

Indeed -- should could've been ignored 36 years ago and gotten it over with.

What does it matter? The end result is still the same -- it doesn't matter now any more than it did back then. No harm, no foul.
 
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Indeed -- should could've been ignored 36 years ago and gotten it over with.

What does it matter? The end result is still the same -- it doesn't matter now any more than it did back then. No harm, no foul.
There is still no evidence that he committed the offense. In fact there is evidence that she hasn't been honest about the incident.
Yet folks like you buy in, hook, line and sinker.
 
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In "presumption of innocence" news (doesn't directly relate to Kav, but to the talking points used to defend him):

TIME on Twitter

Selectively enforcing the law so that "enemies" of the current administration are punished while its friends benefit seems like another step in the road towards fascism in my book.
Ringo
 
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Indeed -- should could've been ignored 36 years ago and gotten it over with.

What does it matter? The end result is still the same -- it doesn't matter now any more than it did back then. No harm, no foul.

What a defeatist attitude! Should actual rape victims just not say anything even soon afterwards?
 
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What a defeatist attitude! Should actual rape victims just not say anything even soon afterwards?

You're referring to Dr. Ford?
 
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Yes. Why do you assume she would have been ignored if she had reported it 36 years ago?

Why should I assume she wouldn't have been disbelieved, discredited, shamed or threatened any less then than she was now?
 
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Why should I assume she wouldn't have been disbelieved, discredited, shamed or threatened any less then than she was now?

Because an accusation is much easier to prove immediately to the local police than to the US Senate after 36 years just as the person being accused is being considered for a high position. That's especially true if the accuser also goes to the political opponents of the one being accused to help bolster her claims.
 
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Because an accusation is much easier to prove immediately to the local police than to the US Senate after 36 years just as the person being accused is being considered for a high position. That's especially true if the accuser also goes to the political opponents of the one being accused to help bolster her claims.

Why would the police have wanted to ruin a good boy's reputation with such nonsense?

Brock Turner only got six months -- and he's not nearly as affluent as Kavanaugh was back in the day
 
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