Did the Son of God have a physical body at creation?

Did the Son of God have a physical body at our creation?

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Dave-W

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Do the Father and the Holy Spirit have the same type of body that you attribute the Son as having? I'm just trying to understand here.
That is a diffidult question.

The Trinity are one God; NOT 3 separate beings. So in one sense they could all have that same body, but they are both spirits so they don't.

Like I said in my last post, God is beyond logic.
 
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Some classes of angels certainly have a human-type body. (not the seraphs or cherubs) But they are like super powered humans.
Are they still ministering spirits?
Do they also have an angelic/heavenly/spiritual body like the other angels?
 
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The question I pursue is how do angels get a body that they appear in?
Care to answer that question?
I don't know. I do know that the incarnation is the unique and specific action of God in Christ Jesus for the redemption of the world.
 
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Proverbs 8:22-36. Christ was in Eden from the beginning walking with his creation.
My question pertains to on the first day of creation, not some days later. What form did the Son of God have for eternity before creation?
 
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My question pertains to on the first day of creation, not some days later. What form did the Son of God have for eternity before creation?
Look at verse 28. Christ was standing on earth looking "above" when he made the skies firm.
 
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Look at verse 28. Christ was standing on earth looking "above" when he made the skies firm.
And what was God standing on when he made the earth? Also standing, sitting on a throne is imagery to relate heavenly concepts to us in a physical. It may be possible that the spiritual world looks similar to ours only lacking physical matter.
 
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In another thread one said that the Son of God always had a physical body. That at creation, we were made in the likeness of God and since we have physical bodies, that means the Son of God had a physical body when he created us in his image.

What do you think?
This all comes from 1John where it is said that in the beginning was THE WORD and the WORD was GOD. This is where the confusion comes in and leads to questions like this.
Most folks say the WORD is the Bible. Some say the WORD is Jesus. Some say he is both, which is really odd to me. A body isn't a word unless the word word means something completely different.

From Wiki: Logos (UK: /ˈloʊɡɒs, ˈlɒɡɒs/, US: /ˈloʊɡoʊs/; Ancient Greek: λόγος, translit. lógos; from λέγω, légō, lit. 'I say') is a term in Western philosophy, psychology, rhetoric, and religion derived from a Greek word variously meaning "ground", "plea", "opinion", "expectation", "word", "speech", "account", "reason", "proportion", and "discourse"

These attributes of the Logos are not physical. So they could not mean Jesus physical body or the bible.
It seems to me that the "Word" of God, The Logos is the nature of God. Any word, thought or action that comes from God is Gods word. And we know that God IS Love, so we can know the word of God.
 
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An image is not a clone of the original. A picture is an image--definitely not the same substance. A doll in the image of a woman--Barbie--is still not of the same substance--for that matter, a corncob doll is in the image of man. The statue of David, made in his image--is still not of the same substance. And no matter how life like a robot my seem--they are still not flesh and bone and blood.
 
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Mark Quayle

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In another thread one said that the Son of God always had a physical body. That at creation, we were made in the likeness of God and since we have physical bodies, that means the Son of God had a physical body when he created us in his image.

What do you think?
What do we mean by physical? I can only assume you mean physical as we recognize the concept, in which case I have to say, no, but my reason is that such things in this life are only poor representations of the reality of that existence. This is but a vapor by comparison. Physical? --what do we know of physical?
 
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This all comes from 1John where it is said that in the beginning was THE WORD and the WORD was GOD. This is where the confusion comes in and leads to questions like this.
Most folks say the WORD is the Bible. Some say the WORD is Jesus. Some say he is both, which is really odd to me. A body isn't a word unless the word word means something completely different.
The Bible is God's word, Jesus is the Word. Whenever I read John 1:1 I think of
Matthew 7:29 because he taught as one who had authority, and not as their teachers of the law.

The root of authority is author. So if Jesus gave the Holy Spirit the words to be inspired in the writers of the Bible, then he would certainly know scriptures better than any. Hence he would be able to speak with authority. That means he understood it because he wrote it.

As to people referring to the Son of God as Logos, it is a descriptive title for the Son of God, not a real name. Same with Christ.

Regardless, I agree the descriptive title Word implies a nonphysical being.
 
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What do we mean by physical? I can only assume you mean physical as we recognize the concept, in which case I have to say, no, but my reason is that such things in this life are only poor representations of the reality of that existence. This is but a vapor by comparison. Physical? --what do we know of physical?
I agree. Heaven, God, the next age will be so much more glorious than what we now live in. How would we dwell with God if I hope in the next age there are at least a billion saints? If we were constrained by physical limitations, how would we be in commune with God and everyone there?

Revelation 21:16 lays out the new world city as a cube 1400 miles high. This is not possible in a physical world, but a cube is the most efficient way of packing objects together in a 3D space. Anyway, I find the illustration demonstrative of how close we will all be in the next age, not under constraints of a physical world.
 
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