God's creation Timeline refutes evolution

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The first mention of water in Genesis is the reference to the "deep", which is a collection of water. Here is the Hebrew word and it's original root meaning.
24 September 2018 Aman777: "The first mention of water in Genesis is the reference to the "deep", which is a collection of water" goal shift and ignorance.
He cited Genesis 1:6 and Genesis 1:7 and there are lies about ham·mā·yim (the waters) and the root word mayim (waters) being "roaring" and "hum".

Genesis 1:2 in Hebrew has ṯə-hō-wm; (of the deep) and the context is a formless place, not water.
This is tehom: deep, sea, abyss which is not limited to a "collection of water"
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, vain, vanity, waste,
Or thom {teh-home'}; (usually feminine) from huwm; an abyss (as a surging mass of water), especially the deep (the main sea or the subterranean water-supply) -- deep (place), depth.
see HEBREW huwm
 
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Genesis 1:2 in Hebrew has ṯə-hō-wm; (of the deep) and the context is a formless place, not water.

Just to refute your misunderstanding of Genesis where God refers to the deep as "a roaring".

תְּהוֹם
Transliteration
tĕhowm
Pronunciation
teh·hōm' הוּם (H1949)

Primitive Root: huwm
Pronunciation
hüm הָמַם (H2000)]
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TWOT Reference: rang again (2x),make a noise (2x), moved (1x), destroy (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
  1. to distract, ring again, make a (great) noise, murmur, roar, discomfit, be moved

  2. I bolded the root word for "deep" and it agrees with other sources which show that God named the deep "Seas" (a roaring) when He put the water from under the firmament inside the firmament.
Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

It's called study because I could not understand why the deep would hum or roar until I went back to the original Hebrew root word. God called the noise made by the gathering together of waters "Seas" which means the SAME thing as the word deep:

יָם
Transliteration
yam
Pronunciation
yäm (Key)
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Part of Speech
masculine noun
Root Word (Etymology)
From an unused root meaning to roar

Your false accusation is refuted (proven wrong). Wait a few days and you can post it again but the result will be the same. God Bless you
 
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An example of the problems with an imaginary "God's Timeline
14+ Billion years ago God makes Adam's Earth Gen 1:9-10 Day 3
14 Billion years ago Adam is formed Gen 2:4 Day 3
13.8 Billion years ago The Big Bang of our Cosmos occurs. Day 3"
So God murders the descendants of Adam and Eve by filling the universe with a quark-gluon plasma with a temperature > 1,000,000,000,000 K for the quark epoch (things are worse in earlier epochs) :p!
I suspect that there is some delusion to add to the timeline to save them. Maybe state that Genesis lies about 1 creation so God makes Adam and Eve in a different universe and then billions of years later teleports them to Earth in this universe?
23 August 2018 Aman777: "The Big Bang of our Cosmos" murders the descendants of Adam and Eve (or just Adam).

Added "or just Adam" in case this is a delusion that Adam was alone for millions or billions of years before Eve was made or did not have children of millions or billion of years. That should be a delusion because Genesis 5:5 has Adam dying at the age of 930 years.
 
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24 September 2018 Aman777: "The first mention of water in Genesis is the reference to the "deep", which is a collection of water" goal shift and ignorance.

25 September 2018 Aman777: A lie about the meaning of Genesis 1:2 by ignoring the context and highlighting his fantasy.
Lexicon :: Strong's H1949 - huwm
The list of usages of huwm in the Bible is "to distract, ring again, make a (great) noise, murmur, roar, discomfit, be moved". Without context the Hebrew can mean any of these terms :doh:.
Lexicon :: Strong's H1949 - huwm
hüm Key (ü — universe, stew, blue, food)
...
וhûwm, hoom; a primitive root (compare H2000); to make an uproar, or agitate greatly:—destroy, move, make a noise, put, ring again.
25 September 2018 Aman777: A lie about the pronunciation of hüm which is "hoom", not his "hummmmm".

25 September 2018 Aman777: Repeats the lie about the Hebrew in Genesis 1:10.
Genesis 1:9 and Genesis 1:10 in Hebrew. The Hebrew translated as "the waters" is ham·mā·yim and it means .. waters :doh:!
 
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Those are your words, not mine. First you call me a liar and then accuse God of murdering everyone in the Universe. Then, you post YOUR ignorant idea about God murdering everyone and CLAIM that I wrote your false and disgusting post. If anyone can surpass Trump for the number of lies told, it's you. Have a nice Day....
 
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First you call me a liar and then accuse God of murdering everyone in the Universe.
I have documented the lies that you have written here for everyone to read and understand.
8 questions and 46 items with fantasies, errors, lies and ignorance.
For example,
7 September 2018 Aman777: "it sounds a lot like Hummm" lies (about Genesis 1:9 and Genesis 1:10)
25 September 2018 Aman777: A lie about the pronunciation of hüm which is "hoom", not his "hummmmm".
21 August 2018 Aman777: A delusion that a quark-gluon plasma at enormous temperatures and pressures that cools down as the universe expands (Big Bang) is a world of water and earth (Genesis creation narrative).

This is my post:
Anyone who can understand English knows that the "he" in the first sentence is not God, it is Aman777. I state that Aman777 makes God murder everyone in the universe with his fantasy of placing Adam, Eve, etc. before the Big Bang. The Big Bang has a temperature that destroys everything including atoms and even protons :doh:! Thus it is Aman777 that makes God kill everyoine in the universe.

26 September 2018 Aman777: A "accuse God of murdering everyone in the Universe" lie.
 
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I state that Aman777 makes God murder everyone in the universe with his fantasy of placing Adam, Eve, etc. before the Big Bang. The Big Bang has a temperature that destroys everything including atoms and even protons :doh:! Thus it is Aman777 that makes God kill everyoine in the universe.

You speak with forked tongue since Eve was NOT formed from Adam's rib until some 12k years ago. It was Adam, who lived with Jesus from the 3rd to the present 6th Day. The total destruction of everyone on Adam's Earth was a righteous Judgment of Almighty God, not me.

I have posted that it is impossible for God to do evil but it hasn't penetrated your mind as you insist that God is a murderer. Tell me, in your view, HOW God could be evil to people whose thoughts were only evil, continually?

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

What would you do with such people? Should they be left to destroy everything or should they be put away forever, alone with self? Your Judgment of God is soundly refuted. I predict you will continue to follow the ways of your "kind".
 
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I have not read this whole thread, but I just wanted to point out that Tolkien's (the author, not the CF troll) history of Middle Earth refutes God's creation timeline.

Thanks for the fictional demonstration of the thoughts of those who believe in evolution. If you don't believe in anything, it's easy to see the entire world as fantasy. Amen?
 
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You speak with forked tongue since Eve was NOT formed from Adam's rib until some 12k years ago. It was Adam, who lived with Jesus from the 3rd to the present 6th Day. The total destruction of everyone on Adam's Earth was a righteous Judgment of Almighty God, not me.

I have posted that it is impossible for God to do evil but it hasn't penetrated your mind as you insist that God is a murderer. Tell me, in your view, HOW God could be evil to people whose thoughts were only evil, continually?

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

What would you do with such people? Should they be left to destroy everything or should they be put away forever, alone with self? Your Judgment of God is soundly refuted. I predict you will continue to follow the ways of your "kind".

For starters, I wouldn't kill all their innocent babies and toddlers.
 
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Thanks for the fictional demonstration of the thoughts of those who believe in evolution. If you don't believe in anything, it's easy to see the entire world as fantasy. Amen?

Apparantly, the sarcastic point flew right over your head. Unsurprisingly.
 
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For starters, I wouldn't kill all their innocent babies and toddlers.

Do you think you have more empathy than God? Where do those innocent babies and toddlers go when they die? They go back to God who sends them on to heaven. Would you rather God leave them among those people who would teach them the evil they practiced?
 
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Thanks for the fictional demonstration of the thoughts of those who believe in evolution. If you don't believe in anything, it's easy to see the entire world as fantasy. Amen?

Hehe... fictional...

You have a book. I have a book. We all have books.
 
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Do you think you have more empathy than God?

I have more empathy then someone who thinks it's a good idea to engage in infanticide, yes. Not to mention, morally superior.

Where do those innocent babies and toddlers go when they die? They go back to God who sends them on to heaven.

Ow, that makes it okay then. :rolleyes:


ps: next debate about abortion, I'm throwing that in your face.


Would you rather God leave them among those people who would teach them the evil they practiced?

How about God instructs the invaders he sends to kill those "evil" people to NOT commit infanticide and instead, adopt those babies and raise them and love them as if they were their own children?

And what are we even talking about... isn't this god supposed to be all-powerfull and omnipotent? He really can't come up with a better solution for these babies and toddlers and children besides mass murdering them? Ow, right, not the virgin girls off course... those, they could keep as spoils of war.
 
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You speak with forked tongue since Eve was NOT formed from Adam's rib until some 12k years ago.....
27 September 2018 Aman777: A "You speak with forked tongue" lie because he still makes God murder everyone in the universe.
It could be just Adam being dissolved into quarks and gluons, in which case the Eve bit is a compete delusion. It could be Adam and Eve. It could be Adam and Eve and their descendants. It could be some other combination.

27 September 2018 Aman777: Adds yet another fairy story to his fantasies (that Eve was not formed until "some 12k years ago".)
 
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It could be just Adam being dissolved into quarks and gluons, in which case the Eve bit is a compete delusion.

Seldom is seen the arrogance of those who have twisted God's Truth into fables. FYI. we live in a Multiverse composed of at least 3 Universes. The Big Bang of our cosmos has NOTHING to do with Adam's Universe. It's a separate Universe Albert. AFTER Adam's Universe was totally destroyed, Adam's descendants came to the present Universe. It's the present world which will be burned and dissolved in fire. Where will you be when the world is on fire?
 
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27 September 2018 Aman777: Adds yet another fairy story to his fantasies (that Eve was not formed until "some 12k years ago".)

Those who stumble over Genesis miss many details. After Jesus made Adam, He made the beasts of the field and birds which Adam named. Genesis 2:19 Jesus made Eve last Genesis 2:22 because He knew that Eve would tempt Adam into sinning. They sinned and were cast from the Garden and had two boys and Cain killed Abel. Genesis 4:8

Both Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel. Genesis 5:1-2 They lived for 930 years before they passed from the first Earth. Genesis 5:5 The first firmament/Universe was destroyed in the flood 800 years later and Noah came to the present Earth in the Ark, 11,000 years ago according to history. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

This dates the formation of Eve from Adam's rib at almost 12k years ago in man's time, give or take a few thousand years. That is God's Truth supported by Scripture science and history. Do you have anything to offer but false accusations? If so, then post your support. I don't think you have anything to offer. Fool me.
 
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