Brett Kavanaugh Allegations Should be Investigated by FBI, Say Nearly 50 Yale Law Faculty Members

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The fact remains the FBI has not done any investigation of these claims.
Is that really what we want? Do we want to go back to the days of j edgar hoover when he had a secret file on everyone and no one dared to cross him. The FBI need to do their job and not be used as a pawn for the liberal agenda.
 
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Dr. Ford wanted to stay confidential
I can understand her wanting to be confidential. This stuff does not go away. She is marked now for the rest of her life. Still I do not see how it is possible for her to be confidential. Ask people like tonya harding anita hill and monica lewinsky if they think her life will ever return to normal.
 
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Well I have a feeling that the folks who teach at Yale Law School have a better understanding of the law than most internet forum posters.

Another appeal to authority. What we understand is neither the Yale Law School bunch nor liberals at large are the least bit interested in the law or the truth. What they are interested in is having another never-ending investigation started utilized to block Kavanaugh's appointment on the grounds he can't be appointed while under investigation, and of course the investigation will never end.

We have already seen this, in the "Meuller Ain't Got Anything" probe.
 
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She does not accuse him of rape or even attempted rape. She accuses him of sexual assault. The question is when a women climbs into bed with a man, what consent does that imply.

Although none of that matters because Kavanaugh did not do the crime. I believe there was a crime. I believe she was assaulted. But I do not believe that Kavanaugh was the person that did it. Not is their any evidence to suggest that he would do anything like that.

First of all you would have to show that he was there at that house on the night that she claims she was assaulted. If she can not come up with a witness to show that he was there at that party, then she really does not have much of anything at all in the way of evidence that they knew each other at all.

All he has to do is say: I do not know that girl. I never met her in my life.

There have been accusations against priest 20-40+ years old where kids have been fondled, raped etc, do you support dismissing those claims as well?
 
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I would have been if they had investigated back when they received her letter on July 30 2018. This is Sept 22 2018. They waited until right before the vote to release this information. They should have done all of this 6 weeks ago. Also her letter says: CONFIDENTIAL. So why did Senator Dianne Feinstein violate her confidential letter to turn this into a three ring circus? Maybe Senator Dianne Feinstein does not take the letter serious because she admits she has no way of knowing if Ford is telling the truth or not.

See my response to a similar comment here:

She was aware since July and Ford didn't want to go public. Ford went to her representative, her representative went to Feinstein and Feinstein asked her to put it in writing. She was protecting a citizen at the request of said citizen. They have rules and guidelines they have to follow when cases involve private citizens. If you were in Ford's place would you have wanted the info released before you were ready to deal with it by someone simply wanting to stop a political agenda making you collateral damage? The only reason she even released info that she had the letter at all was because when she was inquiring about how to get the claims investigated BEFORE the hearings were over, dems found out she had it and was mad she wasn't sharing it with them either. (She would have needed approval/consent by more than one person or committee and it risked Ford's identity becoming public so she didn't pursue those avenues.) She gave it to the FBI, the FBI gave it (redacted) to the WH, yet within 90 min of the WH getting hold of it, Ed Whelan was checking out her linked in page and her name hadn't been publicly released yet.

This has all been reported. This isn't brand new info.
 
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I wonder who is paying her and how much to make these allegations. She can't provide any substantive evidence that any encounter between them actually occurred. I wouldn't be surprised if she was bribed with an attractive financial consideration to make the allegation.

Have anything remotely resembling evidence for these accusations or is smearing women based supposition back in vogue?
 
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There have been accusations against priest 20-40+ years old where kids have been fondled, raped etc, do you support dismissing those claims as well?
My father served our community for 50 years as a Pedestrian. 20% of children are investigated for sexual abuse. There is a procedure to follow and turning this into a three ring circus is not the proper procedure. There are very strict laws for how to dispose of his medical records. My brother could have received a $10,000 fine if we did not handle those records properly. If your going to get the FBI involved then find out who leaked this women's letter and in the very least fine them $10,000 so things like this do not happen in the future. Although actually it is a $100,000 fine and up to a year in jail to release information like that. rachel maddow did a show on that law about government workers releasing information like that and it is a serious offense. Actually it should be a serious offense for CNN to make that letter public the way they did. With little or no regard for Ford and the safety of her and her family.

When all the dust settles they should find out who leaked what and the person should be accountable for what they have done. They should make some attempt to make restitution to Ford for the injury they have done to her.

God is a God of absolute Justice. His scale is perfectly balanced.
 
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I wonder who is paying her and how much to make these allegations. She can't provide any substantive evidence that any encounter between them actually occurred. I wouldn't be surprised if she was bribed with an attractive financial consideration to make the allegation.

Nice smearing...you must be proud...
 
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The allegation is about a crime that couldn't warrant more than a local response.

What does his honesty (or lack thereof) have to do with what I said? I just pointed out that sexual assault doesn't exactly fall under federal jurisdiction.

There should be a statute of limitations for this sort of thing. It was not a rape if there was no penetration. I do not think an investigation at this late date will turn up much. Some people have difficulty remembering correctly what happened two weeks ago, much less 36 years ago. In Florida the statute of limitations for sexual battery (penetration) is eight years. If it is not reported in eight years, there is no prosecution. Misdemeanor battery (striking a person) has a statute of limitations of one year.

You realize they're suggesting the FBI conduct a background investigation on the allegation, not a criminal one, right?
 
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I wonder who is paying her and how much to make these allegations. She can't provide any substantive evidence that any encounter between them actually occurred. I wouldn't be surprised if she was bribed with an attractive financial consideration to make the allegation.

Dismissing her allegations is one thing, but this sort of appeal to conspiracy theory is ridiculous.
 
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Another appeal to authority. What we understand is neither the Yale Law School bunch nor liberals at large are the least bit interested in the law or the truth. What they are interested in is having another never-ending investigation started utilized to block Kavanaugh's appointment on the grounds he can't be appointed while under investigation, and of course the investigation will never end.

Hmm, this seems very familiar. :scratch: Oh yeah!
Investigation into the 2012 Benghazi attack - Wikipedia

We have already seen this, in the "Meuller Ain't Got Anything" probe.

lol
>> Through July 2018, the Special Counsel has publicly initiated criminal proceedings against 33 people—six U.S. nationals, 26 Russian nationals, and one Dutch national—and three Russian organizations. <<
 
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Is that really what we want? Do we want to go back to the days of j edgar hoover when he had a secret file on everyone and no one dared to cross him. The FBI need to do their job and not be used as a pawn for the liberal agenda.

It's in everyone's best interest to have a neutral party investigate. At the end of the day, there may not be any more information, but it is a necessary step.
 
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Another appeal to authority. What we understand is neither the Yale Law School bunch nor liberals at large are the least bit interested in the law or the truth. What they are interested in is having another never-ending investigation started utilized to block Kavanaugh's appointment on the grounds he can't be appointed while under investigation, and of course the investigation will never end.

We have already seen this, in the "Meuller Ain't Got Anything" probe.

eh-hum. An FBI Background check of a nominee only takes a few days at most.
 
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Dismissing her allegations is one thing, but this sort of appeal to conspiracy theory is ridiculous.
Sometimes some aspects of American politics are more clearly seen from outside the country than from within it. From the dirty politics that have occurred since the appointment of Donald Trump to the Presidency, then many outside of the U.S. would have those suspicions.

They tried to do the same things to President Lincoln, but then that information may not have gotten into U.S. history books.
 
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Nice smearing...you must be proud...
U.S. citizens are very nationalistic and patriotic and would refuse to see that dirty politics and corruption that would exist, in the same way that we outside of the U.S. would see it. Us New Zealanders would have the same patriotic attitude toward our own politicians as well.
 
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Have anything remotely resembling evidence for these accusations or is smearing women based supposition back in vogue?
It is only a thought, and I have just as much evidence as the woman has to support her allegation.
 
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Through July 2018, the Special Counsel has publicly initiated criminal proceedings against 33 people—six U.S. nationals, 26 Russian nationals, and one Dutch national—and three Russian organizations.

No one having anything to do with any Russian collusion, the very action his probe was founded to investigate. He charged twenty-six Russian nationals none of which he ever expected to make any attempt to defend themselves, ever show up in court, or ever issue any comment anyone would ever hear. Except for the one who did. Nothing he has done has served to provide one ounce of proof of any Russian collusion during the 2016 election. And you know why? Because there wasn't any.
 
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There have been accusations against priest 20-40+ years old where kids have been fondled, raped etc, do you support dismissing those claims as well?
Only if there is no substantive evidence to back up the accusations. Remember the time when "recovered memories" were the vogue where women could make claims of historical sexual abuse, when there was no other evidence then they "remembered"; and many of those "memories" were proved absolutely false after the alibi of the accused men were established?

Under U.S. law, an accused person is innocent until proved guilty. As far as Mr Kavanaugh is concerned he is a universe away from any proof of guilt, other than an accusation where the woman doesn't know exactly when and where the alleged assault actually took place, and there are no corroborative witnesses. Actually the witnesses maintain that he was not present at all in the house at the same time she was. Any Court case would take exactly 2 minutes before the judge threw it out.
 
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neutral party investigate.
That is not how they do things there. You can not change the rules in the middle of the game. The rules are all decided before the game begins. The democrats are the ones that made the rules, now they have to be judged by the rules that they made. Everyone gets judged in accordance to the way they judge others. Everyone establishes their own standard.
 
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