Jesus is Truly Present in the Eucharist

Amen, its fundamental to biblically historic Christianity in theology and practice.

TuxAme said:

Change my mind (still can't post photos- I had one lined up for this).

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Are you asking me to turn you into a heretic?

singing to the choir

TuxAme said:

Change my mind (still can't post photos- I had one lined up for this).

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When you right click on the image select the "Copy image location"
Then go back to your post, look for the icon that I guess is supposed to be a mountain. It is between the smiley face and the film reel. If you hover your mouse over it, it will say "image".
If you are loading from your computer, choose the top dialog box, or use the bottom one for the url.
Click insert. Done.

TuxAme said:

Still doesn't work. Maybe the site just doesn't like my image selection.

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Did you try saving it to your computer and using the top box?
Or did you try using the "Copy image address"?

TuxAme said:

Both. No luck.

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I saved it to my computer, clicked the "image" icon, selected "choose file",clicked "open", clicked "insert" then posted it.

Probably the file format is not supported. Make sure it's a jpeg file. Or maybe the link is corrupted?

TuxAme said:

Hmm. Did the image show in the preview? I've previewed my post every time I wanted to post an image to see if it'll show up and just got a red X.

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Yes, the image showed in the preview.
But, if you get a red x in the preview sometimes it still works.
And sometimes it will work in the preview and you will still get a red x.

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"IS" is the word Jesus said and Paul penned over and over in the Eucharistic texts.....

"IS" typically means real, present. And generally means what follows the "is" is.

AS LONG AS it is held that the meaning of "is" is "is" and that what follows the "is" actually is, then Real Presence is textual.

When the meaning of "is" is denied or evaded... and perhaps replaced with other words (take your pick: "converted" "transformed" "symbolizes" or any other word than "is") then there is no textual reason to believe that anything actually "is." One just appoints SELF to determine the reality and depends on SELF for the reason to accept that. And if what follows the "is" isn't necessary (it maybe a symbol or an Aristotelian accident or PART there in some sense that the self says is) then it becomes arbitrary and up to self to determine what actually "is" and isn't actually there.


IMO, all this is profoundly simple IF we accept the words Jesus said and Paul by inspiration penned (repeatedly and clearly): IS.... BODY.... BLOOD.... BREAD..... WINE.... FORGIVENESS. We may be left with MYSTERY as to the physics involved, but that's typically the way it goes with divine miracles, usually they leave us with mystery as to the science.

I think we can get into big trouble when we appoint self to explain the mystery in a way that jibes with the pop philosophies of the day (or even the science concepts of the day), or when self indicates what self just thinks is and is not possible, or when self determines that Jesus and Paul seriously misspoke (since it's not possible for God) and self needs to correct it. In the words of my Greek Orthodox friend, "There are those who can't leave well enough alone."


- Josiah



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