Anyone have a brief overview of what is to come?

BABerean2 · Sep 15, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
Read Daniel 11 and you will see that this prince is a king of the north at one time. And yet we see this verse.
Daniel 11
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

This former king of the North will gain power through a small people. He will gain power of the United Nations and be given the stephanos crown.

When will the United Nations forces go back to riding horses?

Daniel 11
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

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Daniel Martinovich · Sep 15, 2018

Dorothy Mae said:
Yes, it was the end of that age and the end of Judaism as given thru Moses.
John was given the same info and told NOT to shut it up for the time is near (was near.). And knowledge did increase then.
Where? Read Acts. Paul wasn’t the only Jew killing the Christians. The Christians killed NO ONE. The Jews were killing the Christians in mass.
The Romans started killing Christians with Nero. It’s not me “saying” the Jews were punished for killing Jesus. Jesus said it.
Where is “rejecting” in there? Says they “trespassed” which is SINNED AGAINST” which is what happened when they gave him up and insisted he be crucified. That was the trespass, not refusing to accept him. Others rejected him outright and he did not threaten them.

Transgression, not rejection.

Yes your correct that the end of the Old Covenat Age was 70 AD. They wer however right in the middle of the age of the four Gentile empires that has its own end time prophecy as punishment for their (as you noted) persecution of believers. That age did not end until 1453AD when what had been the capitol of the Roman Empire since 333 AD, Constantinople fell and the last Roman emperor killed.

DarkSoul999 · Sep 15, 2018

JohnB445 said:
What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?

Death

Dorothy Mae · Sep 15, 2018

DarkSoul999 said:
Death

And taxes

DarkSoul999 · Sep 15, 2018

Dorothy Mae said:
And taxes

unless you are broke

DaDad · Sep 15, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
I know that it is commonly taught that we won't know the day nor the hour of His coming.
But I'm wondering what does the scripture really say. Does the scripture say that we won't know the day and hour of His coming or that we won't know the day nor hour that heaven and earth passes away?

Matt 24
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Hey CW,
We're actually taught an extrapolation, that we won't know the: week, month, season, year (1), decade (10), score (20), century (100), daytona (500), or millennia (1,000), which is a CLEAR violation of Scripture as you've cited as as 1 Thess 5 provides:

2 For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.

In fact, if a person were well studied we could know the exact multi-day feast. But we can't know the day or the hour within that feast.

Scripture already provides the YEAR, and most of the feasts are in the fall, so I'm personally content with that approximation. But there's more.

If Trumps recognition of the Capital of Israel is the start of the 42 month tribulation (May 14, 2018), then we should equally arrive to mid-November, 2021. -- But we still won't know the "day or the hour".

Thanks,
DaDad

Douggg · Sep 15, 2018

Dorothy Mae said:
The list of Christians murdered by Jews is in Acts and the letters of Paul. One can also read how modern Israel is quite racist against non Jews. None of this is a secret list no one knows about.

What the Jews did in the first century was so bad that God destroyed their city and temple. What others supposedly did to them was, apparently to God, not anywhere close to as bad.

Oh, there are plenty of reasons to be against the haredi attitude and behavior, but they are not the majority of Jews. And Jews themselves have big problems with them.

In Ezekiel 39, it says of the Jews, that God hid His face from them. The Romans did not destroy the temple and city in order to vindicate persecution of Christians in that day. Which Christians were certainly persecuted.

The Romans destroyed the temple and city because the Jews revolted against Roman rule. There were three Jewish-Roman wars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish–Roman_wars

The third one in 135 AD was lead by Simon bar Kokhba - which the Jews thought was the messiah, because of Rabbi Akiva. Rabbi Akiva was a high ranking Kabbalist. Which is Jewish mystcism - which everyone should be staying far away from. The person who becomes the Antichrist and later the beast - will ascend to power, but not by his own power, Daniel 8:24. Which to me, indicates he will be into Kabbalah.

There is an interesting read about Rabbi Joseph Reina - who was into Jewish mysticism - how he sought to bring about the redemption by capturing the Samael. The end result was that afterward, a person to study Jewish Kabbalah has to be married and 40 years old. http://dreamingofmoshiach.blogspot.com/2007/07/story-rise-and-fall-of-rabbi-joseph.html

In Judaism, their belief to being righteous is to do "teshuva" - repentance. Teshuva, is what you will hear Jews (Judaism) talk about all the time. Of course, while that is important - it is not sufficient to resolve the issue of sin - which can on be by the blood of Jesus, and to believe upon him.

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Once a person understands Judaism, what they are expecting in the messiah, it is possible to see how they will fall for thinking the prince who shall come, following Gog/Magog, is the messiah. The person will be a Jew, his religion Judaism, and be into Kabbalah - perhaps secretly.

dreadnought · Sep 15, 2018

JohnB445 said:
What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?

I tend to believe biblical prophesies come true for each generation.

Choose Wisely · Sep 15, 2018

BABerean2 said:
When will the United Nations forces go back to riding horses?

Daniel 11
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

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I don't see where it says that the United Nations will be riding horses.

DaDad · Sep 15, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
I don't see where it says that the United Nations will be riding horses.

FULLY AGREE!
This is not a U.N. battle, it's between other nations.
Good Job CW.
DaDad

BABerean2 said:
When will the United Nations forces go back to riding horses?

ALWAYS take things literally. Otherwise GOD might be trying to trick you.
Thanks,
DaDad

akaDaScribe · Sep 15, 2018

JohnB445 said:
What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?

I love reading about opinions on this topic. The problem is that it is like trying to hit the lottery. There are many occasions when some of the scriptures line up, but there will only be one scenario where they all line up.

The biggest problem with knowing for sure is the fact that things can change. Whatever scenario we think might be accurate, always has an “if” attached to it.

This is the most important prophecy in terms of knowing how close were potentially are to the end imho.

Matthew 24:22-24 King James Version (KJV)

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

My take on it is not as a prophet, but just by looking at our trajectory as a species.

IF we continue to advance in the sciences at the rate that we have been progressing, the question then becomes, how long will it be before Christianity is utterly removed from the planet?

Right now, we already have the ability to kill all flesh on the planet. It says that will not happen. However, with the invention of the atom bomb, and then the nuclear bomb, and whatever else they have going that we don’t know about, it is already possible and has been possible for at least 70 years.

This could change. That’s where it gets so tricky. Something could happen that makes a nuclear holocaust no longer possible. But if it does not change, then we are already meeting a criteria of the prophesy. That is to say, since around the 1940s, it has been possibly necessary for Jesus to step in to stop world wide destruction.

This leads to the 2nd criteria: The aptitude of the world to utterly destroy Christianity. I do not believe we have reached that ability as a species yet, but there are things being worked on that will make that possible if our sciences continue to progress on the current trajectory.

With gene manipulation and the current work being done in biology, we are getting closer to changing the human race into another species. If that happens, mankind could be phased out through attrition within 100 years of that capability. They are currently genetically modifying food. If that food is no longer edible for unmodified humans, they will die off much quicker.

The advancement of computer tech and robotics is also on the edge of some very powerful things. Nano bots will advance to the point that they will be able to kill, sustain, and impact the behaviors of people. If they travel like airborne viruses, they will be able to “infect” entire populations. This would create an inescapable situation.

The list goes on. Bottom line; within 100 years something will have to change the trajectory of science, or God will have to step in. Otherwise, there would be no elect left.

Kit Sigmon · Sep 15, 2018

JohnB445 said:
What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?

Chapter 3 of 2 Timothy

ViaCrucis · Sep 15, 2018

JohnB445 said:
What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?

Well, the Lord's words concerning the destruction that would befall Jerusalem and her Temple came to pass in the year 70 AD when the Romans sieged the city.

Beyond that we are looking forward to the Lord's Parousia on the Last Day, when the dead are raised, and God makes all things new; concerning that the Lord says we do not know when it will happen, and that there are no signs since it will be like the time of Noah where people are going about their business as usual when--without warning--the flood came. Christ's coming will be without warning, like a thief in the night, and so we are to be vigilant at all times; that's the point of the parable of the Ten Virgins.

-CryptoLutheran

akaDaScribe · Sep 15, 2018

Kit Sigmon said:
Chapter 3 of 2 Timothy

Romans 1
(Jeremiah 6:10-21; Jeremiah 25:15-33; Jonah 1:4-10; Acts 27:13-26)

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

joshua 1 9 · Sep 15, 2018

BABerean2 said:
A comet is not an asteroid.

Neil DeGrasse does call it an asteroid. I am only using this as a marker for when Jesus died at Calvery. Just like I use the Nano diamond or Clovis comet as a marker for when this age or era began around 12,980 years ago. I am not saying the comet or asteroid or whatever they are is the cause of anything. I just use them to help adjust the date on our calendar for the beginning or the end of an age or era. I really am in no position to be able to argue for or against the The Younger Dryas impact hypothesis or Clovis comet hypothesis. It remains to be seen if the DeGrasse asteroid actually hits the earth in 2036. Right now I think NASA says that they do not believe the asteroid will hit the earth. For me it is interesting that the asteroid comes around every 7 years on the date of the year marking when Jesus went to Calvery. There are people that talk about a 7 year tribulation period so this is even more of a coincidence.

The "Jewish" new year begins in sept or oct and that is often the dated used for the beginning of this age back at the time of Adam and the Garden of Eden. Then we have passover which is marked by the NASA asteroid. Then of course the day of Pentacost when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the Church is a very important event.

joshua 1 9 · Sep 15, 2018

Dave L said:
The next thing to happen is Jesus returns unexpectedly as in the days of Noah. All are marrying and giving in marriage just like today.

The dead in Christ rise first (the resurrection) followed by the Rapture of living believers into Heaven.

Some people believe that the "rapture" takes place when the church is caught up in the air to be with the lord. This is the second coming before the tribulation. The third coming is at the end of the tribulation and this is "as in the days of Noah" because the world will be cleansed by fire. The people Jerusalem believe that the United Nations will declare war against them and they will be forced to use nuclear weapons to defend themselves. At the third coming Jesus feet touch the ground at the Mount of Olives. So first He comes for His church then He returns with His Church.

In your post you treat the second and the third coming as if it were the same event.

Dave L · Sep 15, 2018

joshua 1 9 said:
Some people believe that the "rapture" takes place when the church is caught up in the air to be with the lord. This is the second coming before the tribulation. The third coming is at the end of the tribulation and this is "as in the days of Noah" because the world will be cleansed by fire. The people Jerusalem believe that the United Nations will declare war against them and they will be forced to use nuclear weapons to defend themselves. At the third coming Jesus feet touch the ground at the Mount of Olives. So first He comes for His church then He returns with His Church.

In your post you treat the second and the third coming as if it were the same event.

It all happens on the last day.

joshua 1 9 · Sep 15, 2018

Dave L said:
It all happens on the last day.

So you think you are going to go through the tribulation period? Does that mean you are a prepper? Or maybe you do not believe there will be a 7 year tribulation period.

Dave L · Sep 15, 2018

joshua 1 9 said:
So you think you are going to go through the tribulation period? Does that mean you are a prepper?

The great tribulation happened in 70 AD in the destruction of Jerusalem. Jesus taught this in Matthew 24. History confirms this to be the worst case of suffering the world ever knew. Mothers eating their young. Crosses as far as the eye could see with Jews impaled on them, etc. (See Josephus the Jewish historian on this).

When Jesus returns, it will be just like today. Marrying, giving in marriage and business as usual. People proclaiming "peace and safety".

Most of what we hear today is false and came about in the mid 1800s.

joshua 1 9 · Sep 15, 2018

Dave L said:
The great tribulation happened in 70 AD in the destruction of Jerusalem. Jesus taught this in Matthew 24.

One is a shadow and type of the other. If you do not know how to handle shadow and types in the Bible then how do you understand the parables? Matthew 13:13 "This is why I speak to them in parables: "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand."

Most of what we hear today is false and came about in the mid 1800s.

There is a lot of scriptures in the Bible (old & new) and it does get confused because so many people have so many different understandings.

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