Anyone have a brief overview of what is to come?

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There are countries with an average life expectancy of 90 years. The 1,000 year reign of Christ can not begin until expectancy is at least 100. Although I use the year 2029 because of the NASA comet that comes around every 7 years.

The bible gives the three score and ten in Psalms 90:10. King David passed away at seventy.

In similitude to the end times, the temple and city were destroyed in 70 AD, which the generation that Jesus spoke to in Matthew 23 (regarding their house left desolate) saw that happen.

We are really close right now.
 
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The "leader" will be the head of EU. No, he will be the head of the United Nations. No wait, he will be the leader of the United States or maybe Russian Federation. Blah blah blah. What are we having, antichrist fever? Why are you wasting time looking for some physical human leader to fit your doctrine?! You need to learn how to allow Scripture to be its own interpreter, not your speculations!

And yes, you are right for once that Gog and Magog will happen after thousand-year millennial kingdom, but it will not be in future. Its already here and the thousand years (fullness of whatever is in view) of the church building has passed. Do you know who Gog and Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal?
TS, do you believe that Jesus fulfilled bible prophecy- as a real person, and not a concept? If so, then why would you not think the little horn, the Antichrist, the beast, are a real person?

Your methodology is to take a specific bible prophecy verse - and then incise the word from its context - and then do a word search on the removed word - and after searching through all the verses in the bible where that word is found -from those create some philosophical explanation of the prophecy verse that sounds religious.
 
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What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?
You talking about the Bible prophesy? The gospel going out and changing nations such that there is less war and more prosperity and peace. Before that the fulfillment of Math 24 in 70 AD.
 
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The prince who shall come is from the people who destroyed the temple and city. It was not the United Nations nor the League of Nations.

Gog/Magog is Revelation 20 is like saying dejavue, Gog and Magog all over again because of the size of the attacking force.

Differently, Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 39 will be right before the seven years begin. In Ezekiel 39, 17-20 is the same feast as in Revelation 19:17-18. Jesus is speaking in 39:17-29. In 39:21, Jesus having returning to earth having just executed judgment on the heathen who have tried to make war on Him.
He executed judgement on the heather Jews in 70 AD who made war on him in Israel by murdering the Christians.
 
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He executed judgement on the heather Jews in 70 AD who made war on him in Israel by murdering the Christians.
Ezkiel 39:17-20 is after Gog/Magog. Gog/Magog itself is end times, Ezekiel 38:8.

At the end of the 7 years, the kings of the earth will gather their armies at Armageddon, which is putting there force together. They will march down secure Jerusalem, holding the Jews their as hostages - half of the city held as captives.

Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

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Do you know who else has been made hostages, even as we speak? The entire human race - by Satan.
It was his plan to prevent his own destruction.

When Satan got Adam and Eve to sin - it made the entire human race hostages in effect. Because God could not in fair judgment destroy Satan for his sin - without also destroy the entire human race for our sin.

So we became captive, not just to sin, but also hostages to Satan - until Jesus freed us. And makes it possible for God to go forward with his planned destruction of Satan. Because the human race has been freed from the power of sin.

If you step back a ways and look at the bible in the big picture - it is a book about how God is going to destroy Satan. And much of what is in bible prophecy that is the underlying principle taking place. Which in Revelation, we read about the destruction of Babylon, the great is fallen, is fallen! That is Satan's kingdom overshadowing the world, as Satan is cast down to earth, as God starts dismantling his kingdom, and tightening the noose on his destruction.

All of the suffering, death, sickness, and hardship of the human race goes back back to Satan. But God is going to destroy him, and restore creation.

Ezekiel 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more

That's a thus saith the Lord message to Satan.
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The human race are my people. A different race, one gone bad directly in the presence of God in heaven, one that is trying to destroy my people are Satan and his angels. The battle though is the Lord's.

For my race....

John 1:12 But as many as received him [Jesus], to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

....and apparently some from Switzerland, Dorothy Mae, now of the Kingdom.

 
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What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?
I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.
Psalm 22:26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever. 27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. 28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
Isaiah 60: 3 And nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising. 4 Lift up your eyes all around, and see; they all gather together, they come to you; your sons shall come from afar, and your daughters shall be carried on the hip. 5 Then you shall see and be radiant; your heart shall thrill and exult, because the abundance of the sea shall be turned to you, the wealth of the nations shall come to you. (ESV)
Isaiah 49:6 He says: “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”...8 Thus said the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard you, and in a day of salvation have I helped you: and I will preserve you, and give you for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;
Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
Isaiah 52:7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of him that brings good tidings, that publishes peace; that brings good tidings of good, that publishes salvation; that said to Zion, Your God reigns! ..... 10 The LORD has made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.... 13 Behold, my servant (the messiah) shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonished at you; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
Isaiah 42:Behold my servant, (the messiah) whom I uphold; my elect, in whom my soul delights; I have put my spirit on him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment to truth. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. 5 Thus said God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which comes out of it; he that gives breath to the people on it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I the LORD have called you in righteousness, and will hold your hand, and will keep you, and give you for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
Psalm 72:2 He shall judge your people with righteousness, and your poor with judgment. 3 The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness. 4 He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor. 5 They shall fear you as long as the sun and moon endure, throughout all generations. 6 He shall come down like rain on the mown grass: as showers that water the earth. 7 In his days shall the righteous flourish; and abundance of peace so long as the moon endures. 8 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river to the ends of the earth. 9 They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust. 10 The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts. 11 Yes, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him. 12 For he shall deliver the needy when he cries; the poor also, and him that has no helper. 13 He shall spare the poor and needy, and shall save the souls of the needy. 14 He shall redeem their soul from deceit and violence: and precious shall their blood be in his sight. 15 And he shall live, and to him shall be given of the gold of Sheba: prayer also shall be made for him continually; and daily shall he be praised. 16 There shall be an handful of corn in the earth on the top of the mountains; the fruit thereof shall shake like Lebanon: and they of the city shall flourish like grass of the earth. 17 His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed. 18 Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel, who only does wondrous things. 19 And blessed be his glorious name for ever: and let the whole earth be filled with his glory; Amen, and Amen.
Psalm 67: 1 God be merciful to us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine on us; Selah. 2 That your way may be known on earth, your saving health among all nations. 3 Let the people praise you, O God; let all the people praise you. 4 O let the nations be glad and sing for joy: for you shall judge the people righteously, and govern the nations on earth. Selah. 5 Let the people praise you, O God; let all the people praise you. 6 Then shall the earth yield her increase; and God, even our own God, shall bless us. 7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him.
Psalm 82: 8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for you shall inherit all nations.
Psalm 86: 9 All nations whom you have made shall come and worship before you, O Lord; and shall glorify your name.
Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow to it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come you, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

So if you want to know what the future holds More and more of that. WWIII can't stop it either. It will grow and grow. The Bible says ALL nations will be blessed through Abraham's one descendant.
http://www.wordservice.org/Bible Basics/bb9000.htm
 
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Ezkiel 39:17-20 is after Gog/Magog. Gog/Magog itself is end times, Ezekiel 38:8.

At the end of the 7 years, the kings of the earth will gather their armies at Armageddon, which is putting there force together. They will march down secure Jerusalem, holding the Jews their as hostages - half of the city held as captives.

Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

_____________________________________________________________________________

Do you know who else has been made hostages, even as we speak? The entire human race - by Satan.
It was his plan to prevent his own destruction.

When Satan got Adam and Eve to sin - it made the entire human race hostages in effect. Because God could not in fair judgment destroy Satan for his sin - without also destroy the entire human race for our sin.

So we became captive, not just to sin, but also hostages to Satan - until Jesus freed us. And makes it possible for God to go forward with his planned destruction of Satan. Because the human race has been freed from the power of sin.

If you step back a ways and look at the bible in the big picture - it is a book about how God is going to destroy Satan. And much of what is in bible prophecy that is the underlying principle taking place. Which in Revelation, we read about the destruction of Babylon, the great is fallen, is fallen! That is Satan's kingdom overshadowing the world, as Satan is cast down to earth, as God starts dismantling his kingdom, and tightening the noose on his destruction.

All of the suffering, death, sickness, and hardship of the human race goes back back to Satan. But God is going to destroy him, and restore creation.

Ezekiel 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more

That's a thus saith the Lord message to Satan.
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The human race are my people. A different race, one gone bad directly in the presence of God in heaven, one that is trying to destroy my people are Satan and his angels. The battle though is the Lord's.

For my race....

John 1:12 But as many as received him [Jesus], to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

....and apparently some from Switzerland, Dorothy Mae, now of the Kingdom.
The bit about people is ok. But Jerusalem was already surrounded by armies from different nations. The believers were saved by believing the words of Jesus and taking appropriate actions. Those who had devastated the church and kille christ were killed.
 
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The bit about people is ok. But Jerusalem was already surrounded by armies from different nations. The believers were saved by believing the words of Jesus and taking appropriate actions. Those who had devastated the church and kille christ were killed.
But 70 AD was not the end times. The end times are characterized by...

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

70 AD began 2000 years of troubles for the Jews. Many of whom were persecuted and killed by different Christian groups - thinking they were doing God a favor.

You can say for killing Christians, it resulted in 70 AD, but the truth is - it has been just as bad or worse in the reverse following 70 AD.

Here is the actual text of why the temple was destroyed.... and all of the Jews suffering over the past 2000 years. It was because they rejected Jesus and the gospel of salvation.

Ezekiel 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
 
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But 70 AD was not the end times. The end times are characterized by...
Yes, it was the end of that age and the end of Judaism as given thru Moses.
Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
John was given the same info and told NOT to shut it up for the time is near (was near.). And knowledge did increase then.

70 AD began 2000 years of troubles for the Jews. Many of whom were persecuted and killed by different Christian groups - thinking they were doing God a favor.
Where? Read Acts. Paul wasn’t the only Jew killing the Christians. The Christians killed NO ONE. The Jews were killing the Christians in mass.
You can say for killing Christians, it resulted in 70 AD, but the truth is - it has been just as bad or worse in the reverse following 70 AD.
The Romans started killing Christians with Nero. It’s not me “saying” the Jews were punished for killing Jesus. Jesus said it.
Here is the actual text of why the temple was destroyed.... and all of the Jews suffering over the past 2000 years. It was because they rejected Jesus and the gospel of salvation.

Ezekiel 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Where is “rejecting” in there? Says they “trespassed” which is SINNED AGAINST” which is what happened when they gave him up and insisted he be crucified. That was the trespass, not refusing to accept him. Others rejected him outright and he did not threaten them.
24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Transgression, not rejection.
 
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Where? Read Acts. Paul wasn’t the only Jew killing the Christians. The Christians killed NO ONE. The Jews were killing the Christians in mass.
I am not saying in the early years of the church. But as time moved forward to times like the inquisition, not only have Christians killed Jews, but also other Christians. I am not saying they were acting the way a Christian should ever, but it happened.
 
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Although I use the year 2029 because of the NASA comet that comes around every 7 years.

A comet is not an asteroid.

An asteroid is made up of rock, or iron and nickel.

A comet is mainly made up of ice and frozen gases.



I hope this fact does not interfere with your Pentecostal "gift of prophecy"...


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I am not saying in the early years of the church. But as time moved forward to times like the inquisition, not only have Christians killed Jews, but also other Christians. I am not saying they were acting the way a Christian should ever, but it happened.
You said hard times started for the Jews in 70 AD and now you jump to centuries later and by the Catholics who killed Bible believing Christians by the thousands! The Catholics started persecuting Christians very soon after Constantine combined paganism and christianity. ( Not Jews by the way). So exactly when did the Bible believing Christians kill Jews? Would like to know.
 
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Where is “rejecting” in there? Says they “trespassed” which is SINNED AGAINST” which is what happened when they gave him up and insisted he be crucified. That was the trespass, not refusing to accept him. Others rejected him outright and he did not threaten them.
They did not crucify Jesus, until before hand they received him not. i.e rejected him.

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Jesus is the cornerstone the builders rejected.
 
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You said hard times started for the Jews in 70 AD and now you jump to centuries later and by the Catholics who killed Bible believing Christians by the thousands! The Catholics started persecuting Christians very soon after Constantine combined paganism and christianity. ( Not Jews by the way). So exactly when did the Bible believing Christians kill Jews? Would like to know.
I don't keep a list at my fingertips.

When I was active at the Messiah Truth site https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/messiahtruth/counter-missionary-forum-f1/ - a Jewish counter missionary site - Sophiee there had provided an extensive list of Christian persecution of Jews. You can go there ask her for the list. I don't recall the details on the list.

Alternately,
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers1.htm 70 to 1200
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers3.htm 1201 to 1800
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers2.htm 1800 to present

The above links includes some sections strictly by Christians.
 
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I don't keep a list at my fingertips.

When I was active at the Messiah Truth site https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/messiahtruth/counter-missionary-forum-f1/ - a Jewish counter missionary site - Sophiee there had provided an extensive list of Christian persecution of Jews. You can go there ask her for the list. I don't recall the details on the list.

Alternately,
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers1.htm 70 to 1200
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers3.htm 1201 to 1800
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers2.htm 1800 to present

The above links includes some sections strictly by Christians.
The list of Christians murdered by Jews is in Acts and the letters of Paul. One can also read how modern Israel is quite racist against non Jews. None of this is a secret list no one knows about.

What the Jews did in the first century was so bad that God destroyed their city and temple. What others supposedly did to them was, apparently to God, not anywhere close to as bad.
 
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They did not crucify Jesus, until before hand they received him not. i.e rejected him.
The verse does not list “not receiving” as a problem. And Jesus says they, the Jews, not the Romans committed the greater sin. I believe Jesus.
John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Jesus is the cornerstone the builders rejected.
True but that is NOT why Jerusalem was destroyed. It was destroyed because they killed Jesus and hundreds of his followers. Rejecting Jesus means no salvation. Murdering him was another matter. Jesus isn’t sensitive to being rejected like a spoiled child. It doesn’t hurt his feelings or ego.
 
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What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?
The only yet-future event remaining before the new heavens and new earth is the second coming of Christ.
 
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What was the most recent prophesy that has been fulfilled or is being now?

What are we to expect in the Future?
Forget most of what you have heard unless it agrees with this:

The next thing to happen is Jesus returns unexpectedly as in the days of Noah. All are marrying and giving in marriage just like today.

The dead in Christ rise first (the resurrection) followed by the Rapture of living believers into Heaven.

The wicked dead are raised and judged in the same hour and sent to hell.

The universe explodes and the elements melt with a fervent heat as Peter says. And a New Heavens and earth emerge where we live forever enjoying all the blessings Christ earned for us when he brought us to believe in him.
 
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The gospel goes worldwide, to all nations. Jesus comes back on the last day.

Mt24
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
I know that it is commonly taught that we won't know the day nor the hour of His coming.
But I'm wondering what does the scripture really say. Does the scripture say that we won't know the day and hour of His coming or that we won't know the day nor hour that heaven and earth passes away?

Matt 24
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
 
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The prince who shall come is from the people who destroyed the temple and city. It was not the United Nations nor the League of Nations.

Gog/Magog is Revelation 20 is like saying dejavue, Gog and Magog all over again because of the size of the attacking force.

Differently, Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 39 will be right before the seven years begin. In Ezekiel 39, 17-20 is the same feast as in Revelation 19:17-18. Jesus is speaking in 39:17-29. In 39:21, Jesus having returning to earth having just executed judgment on the heathen who have tried to make war on Him.
Douggg,

The prince who shall come is from the people who destroy the THIRD TEMPLE and the city, not the second temple.

Read Daniel 11 and you will see that this prince is a king of the north at one time. And yet we see this verse.

Daniel 11
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

This former king of the North will gain power through a small people. He will gain power of the United Nations and be given the stephanos crown.

As for Gog Magog it is after the 1000 years just like the bible says. Do you really think with all the king of north action, the king of the south action, the united nations action, the kings of the east action that there is any time to fit in this Gog Magog war? It's after the 1000 years, like it says. We don't need to make up two Gog Magogs because a bunch of birds eat the dead Rev 19 and Eze 39. Don't you think that the buzzards show up at any war where there is a bunch of dead laying around?
 
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