Sexual Chastity and Your Eyes

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If you are ashamed to look at people's eyes, then you aren't as chaste as you think.

Nonsense. If you think I'm ashamed, then it goes to show that anyone with a computer can pontificate about people he never met and knows nothing about. Ironically, there is a known connection between what people blindly claim about others and what is true of themselves. In other words, if you claim such things against me, about whom you know nothing, then it's probably true of you, not me.
 
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Aren't weird behaviours typically behaviours that are not socially normative?

Weirdness is in the eye of the beholder. By your standard, it would be impossible to judge that moment when society goes totally off the rails. It would only be true if I were entirely a product of my own culture and nothing more.
 
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It is also a signal in the west that a woman is interested in a male to approach her and strike up a conversation. Some males take advantage of, or misinterpret an accidental glance.

https://theartofcharm.com/flirting-and-attraction/eye-contact-attraction/

According to that article it is a way of making a woman interested in you. So be sure to do it with an unavailable facial expression.

However, people also make eye contact when they are judging, and subtly want the recipient to know, when it is coupled with a deadpan expression so be careful not to do that also. Or sometimes they think you are wierd. Also, it can also be a display of aggression when it is to the same sex.


http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/eyes_body_language.htm
"Long eye contact

Eye contact longer than normal can have several different meanings.

Eye contact often increases significantly when we are listening, and especially when we are paying close attention to what the other person is saying. Less eye contact is used when talking, particularly by people who are visual thinkers as they stare into the distance or upwards as they 'see' what they are talking about.

We also look more at people we like and like people who look at us more. When done with doe eyes and smiles, it is a sign of attraction. Lovers will stare into each others eyes for a long period. Attraction is also indicated by looking back and forth between the two eyes, as if we are desperately trying to determine if they are interested in us too.

An attraction signal that is more commonly used by women is to hold the other person's gaze for about three seconds, Then look down for a second or two and then look back up again (to see if they have taken the bait). If the other person is still looking at them, they are rewarded with a coy smile or a slight widening of the eyes ('Yes, this message is for you!').

When done without blinking, contracted pupils and an immobile face, this can indicate domination, aggression and use of power. In such circumstances a staring competition can ensue, with the first person to look away admitting defeat.

Prolonged eye contact can be disconcerting. A trick to reduce stress from this is to look at the bridge of their nose. They will think you are still looking in their eyes.

Sometimes liars, knowing that low eye contact is a sign of lying, will over-compensate and look at you for a longer than usual period. Often this is done without blinking as they force themselves into this act. They may smile with the mouth, but not with the eyes as this is more difficult."


I aslo found the other cutures section in this article interesting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_contact
"Pious Muslims aspire to lower their gaze and look at each other without sexual objectification. Japanese children are taught in school to direct their gaze at the region of their teacher's Adam's apple or tie knot. As adults, Japanese lower their eyes when speaking to a superior as a gesture of respect.
In many cultures, such as in East Asia and Nigeria,[20] it is respectful not to look the dominant person in the eye, but in Western culture this can be interpreted as being "shifty-eyed", and the person judged badly because "he wouldn't look me in the eye"; references such as "shifty-eyed" can refer to suspicions regarding an individual's unrevealed intentions or thoughts.[21] Nevertheless, the seeking of constant unbroken eye contact by the other participant in a conversation can often be considered overbearing or distracting by many even in western cultures, possibly on an instinctive or subconscious level.

Some bodies of parliamentary procedure ban eye contact between members when speaking.[22]"
 
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I'm not saying an evil person will never look you square in the eyes. I'm saying that if you live a righteous life, you'll always be able to look people square in the eyes.
I guess no one can look at another square in the eyes, then.

Romans 3:10 'as it is written:“None is righteous, no, not one;'
 
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That isn't true. There is no set personality for a righteous person. Some may be outgoing and some may be shy.
If you resist the temptation to sin, you'll have no trouble looking people square in the eyes.
 
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Nonsense. If you think I'm ashamed, then it goes to show that anyone with a computer can pontificate about people he never met and knows nothing about. Ironically, there is a known connection between what people blindly claim about others and what is true of themselves. In other words, if you claim such things against me, about whom you know nothing, then it's probably true of you, not me.
Nonsense? If you resist the temptation to sin, why would you have trouble looking people square in the eyes?
 
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I heard somewhere that in some cultures it's considered rude to look someone in the eye.
I wouldn't want to live in that culture. I saw a Star Trek episode where someone wasn't allowed to look the others square in the eyes.
 
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It is also a signal in the west that a woman is interested in a male to approach her and strike up a conversation. Some males take advantage of, or misinterpret an accidental glance.

https://theartofcharm.com/flirting-and-attraction/eye-contact-attraction/

According to that article it is a way of making a woman interested in you. So be sure to do it with an unavailable facial expression.

However, people also make eye contact when they are judging, and subtly want the recipient to know, when it is coupled with a deadpan expression so be careful not to do that also. Or sometimes they think you are wierd. Also, it can also be a display of aggression when it is to the same sex.


http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/eyes_body_language.htm
"Long eye contact

Eye contact longer than normal can have several different meanings.

Eye contact often increases significantly when we are listening, and especially when we are paying close attention to what the other person is saying. Less eye contact is used when talking, particularly by people who are visual thinkers as they stare into the distance or upwards as they 'see' what they are talking about.

We also look more at people we like and like people who look at us more. When done with doe eyes and smiles, it is a sign of attraction. Lovers will stare into each others eyes for a long period. Attraction is also indicated by looking back and forth between the two eyes, as if we are desperately trying to determine if they are interested in us too.

An attraction signal that is more commonly used by women is to hold the other person's gaze for about three seconds, Then look down for a second or two and then look back up again (to see if they have taken the bait). If the other person is still looking at them, they are rewarded with a coy smile or a slight widening of the eyes ('Yes, this message is for you!').

When done without blinking, contracted pupils and an immobile face, this can indicate domination, aggression and use of power. In such circumstances a staring competition can ensue, with the first person to look away admitting defeat.

Prolonged eye contact can be disconcerting. A trick to reduce stress from this is to look at the bridge of their nose. They will think you are still looking in their eyes.

Sometimes liars, knowing that low eye contact is a sign of lying, will over-compensate and look at you for a longer than usual period. Often this is done without blinking as they force themselves into this act. They may smile with the mouth, but not with the eyes as this is more difficult."


I aslo found the other cutures section in this article interesting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_contact
"Pious Muslims aspire to lower their gaze and look at each other without sexual objectification. Japanese children are taught in school to direct their gaze at the region of their teacher's Adam's apple or tie knot. As adults, Japanese lower their eyes when speaking to a superior as a gesture of respect.
In many cultures, such as in East Asia and Nigeria,[20] it is respectful not to look the dominant person in the eye, but in Western culture this can be interpreted as being "shifty-eyed", and the person judged badly because "he wouldn't look me in the eye"; references such as "shifty-eyed" can refer to suspicions regarding an individual's unrevealed intentions or thoughts.[21] Nevertheless, the seeking of constant unbroken eye contact by the other participant in a conversation can often be considered overbearing or distracting by many even in western cultures, possibly on an instinctive or subconscious level.

Some bodies of parliamentary procedure ban eye contact between members when speaking.[22]"
You don't want to look INTO people's eyes. Just look at them.
 
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I guess no one can look at another square in the eyes, then.

Romans 3:10 'as it is written:“None is righteous, no, not one;'
Not until we repent of our sin. But Jesus told us to do that (Matt 4:17)
 
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Nonsense? If you resist the temptation to sin, why would you have trouble looking people square in the eyes?

People have given good reasons multiple times. At this point, it almost feels like you don’t want a discussion, you just want to declare something, have it accepted as true, and praised for your insight and self-declared righteousness.
 
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Nonsense? If you resist the temptation to sin, why would you have trouble looking people square in the eyes?

You suffer from a bad case of deductive fallacy. It comes from assuming only one possible cause for a given effect. It took me about five seconds to think of a short list of other reasons why someone might not like eye contact:

  • Ommetaphobia
  • Autism, including milder autism closer to Aspergers Syndrome
  • Antisocial tendencies
    • Ashamed of other people
    • Not feeling the need to connect, socially
    • Weltschmertz
    • Anger at the world
  • Culture
  • Eye strain from uncorrected myopia
And...you've been given plenty of other reasons, which you've also ignored. Give society a few more years with smart phones and I'll have one more reason for you why people are uncomfortable with eye contact.
 
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People have given good reasons multiple times. At this point, it almost feels like you don’t want a discussion, you just want to declare something, have it accepted as true, and praised for your insight and self-declared righteousness.
Perhaps in a tiny percentage of people there is a medical reason that someone can't look someone square in the eyes. For most of us, though, if we behave ourselves, we can look everyone square in the eyes.
 
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It's not a sin to be shy.
I think you are opening a whole knew topic of discussion with that, but in the end, I believe we overcome our shyness, and the reason we overcome our shyness is that our behavior improves.
 
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You suffer from a bad case of deductive fallacy. It comes from assuming only one possible cause for a given effect. It took me about five seconds to think of a short list of other reasons why someone might not like eye contact:

  • Ommetaphobia
  • Autism, including milder autism closer to Aspergers Syndrome
  • Antisocial tendencies
    • Ashamed of other people
    • Not feeling the need to connect, socially
    • Weltschmertz
    • Anger at the world
  • Culture
  • Eye strain from uncorrected myopia
And...you've been given plenty of other reasons, which you've also ignored. Give society a few more years with smart phones and I'll have one more reason for you why people are uncomfortable with eye contact.
When we repent of our sin, our fear disappears.
 
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I get both sides... Its kind of a pointless debate really cos only God really cares what in our hearts.....❤
"Only God really cares what in our hearts"? You don't think anyone else cares?
 
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I think you are opening a whole knew topic of discussion with that, but in the end, I believe we overcome our shyness, and the reason we overcome our shyness is that our behavior improves.
I think that you have no evidence that this occurs. There are some very good people who are shy and they have no need to change anything as long as they are happy.
 
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