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Uranium requires a gun-assembled weapon-- the original weapon used an actual naval gun barrel. Plutonium requires an implosion type weapon. In the 1940's, Oakridge couldn't produce enough weapons-grade uranium, so Hanford was used to produce plutonium.


... because the gun-assembled weapon had a high confidence of working, but the implosion design was so theoretical that the designers needed to test the device before fielding.


Hands-on is more interesting ...

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I showed the following film to my class during the last few years that I taught the unit on Nuclear energy.


The last few minutes of the film is quite shocking, when it is revealed what happened to some of our servicemen who were at the test site. (Time 50:00)

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The last few minutes of the film is quite shocking, when it is revealed what happened to some of our servicemen who were at the test site. (Time 50:00)

Revelation 9:6 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
6 And in those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, and death will fly from them.

People will survive the high energy particle slicing through their cells. It won't be pretty or fun, but most will survive.

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There is nothing concerning an event from the Sun in Joel 2:2 ...Joel 2:2 describe a Day of total darkness and gloominess upon the whole Earth ..[until that Jesus appear in Glory in the Clouds..[Matthew 24:29-31]

Read carefully
Joel 2:2
2 a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, as the dawn spread upon the mountains; a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after them, even to the years of many generations.
Continuing on: Joel 2:3 Before then goes a devouring fire and behind them is a huge flame. Before them the Land is a garden of Eden, behind is a desolate waste where nothing survives.
This and all the rest of the prophesies about the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath, can only be literally fulfilled by a massive CME.
After the initial flash, Isaiah 30:26a, there will be darkness, as the approaching mass obscures the sun and as the dawn spreads upon the mountains: as the earth rotates, all the world will be struck by the fiery ejected mass.

I suggest that you, Riberra and all who desire to know the truth of God's plans, put aside your preconceived notions and believe what the Prophetic Word actually tells us. Because it is likely to happen quite soon!
 
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Continuing on: Joel 2:3 Before then goes a devouring fire and behind them is a huge flame. Before them the Land is a garden of Eden, behind is a desolate waste where nothing survives.
This and all the rest of the prophesies about the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath, can only be literally fulfilled by a massive CME.
After the initial flash, Isaiah 30:26a, there will be darkness, as the approaching mass obscures the sun and as the dawn spreads upon the mountains: as the earth rotates, all the world will be struck by the fiery ejected mass.

I suggest that you, Riberra and all who desire to know the truth of God's plans, put aside your preconceived notions and believe what the Prophetic Word actually tells us. Because it is likely to happen quite soon!

In context...

Joe 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
Joe 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.

Joe 2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.

Joe 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
Joe 2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
Joe 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
Joe 2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
Joe 2:8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
Joe 2:9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
Joe 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
(See the signs in the sun, moon, and stars in Matthew 24:29-31, and Revelation 6:12-17.)
Joe 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it? (Does a CME speak?)
Joe 2:12 Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
Joe 2:13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
Joe 2:14 Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?
Joe 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
Joe 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet. (Who is the "bridegroom" in the New Testament?)
Joe 2:17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
Joe 2:18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
Joe 2:19 Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto his people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen:
Joe 2:20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.
Joe 2:21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things.
Joe 2:22 Be not afraid, ye beasts of the field: for the pastures of the wilderness do spring, for the tree beareth her fruit, the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.
Joe 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.
Joe 2:24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.
Joe 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
Joe 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
Joe 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (Peter quoted this verse on the Day of Pentecost.)
Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. (See the signs in the sun, moon, and stars in Matthew 24, and Revelation 6.)
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
(That name is Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God.)

See the description in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 to find out what happens to those who do not call on the name of the Lord on this day.

It is the Son, instead of the sun, that is revealed on this day.


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Jesus said, when He returns will He find faith on the Earth? Luke 18:8 With so many view points, we can see why He asked this. :) I too believe the Lord will "turn up the heat", on the Day of the Lord. The whole creation will be changed to prepare for the 1000 year Kingdom. After all, God will have to burn up all the toxic crap form our modern warfare and society.

Anybody read this book by Tim Warner? I'm thinking on getting it. From what I gather, we are about 20 years away from the year 6000. I always believed the Lord has a 7000 year plan.

I'm a Pre-Wrath believer and highly recommend anyone who is looking for the soon return of the Lord pick up: Nelson Walters "Revelation Deciphered" .

https://www.amazon.com/Time-End-Tim...=1534512267&sr=8-2&keywords=time+warner+books
 
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I... but what you seem unaware of what the Prophetic Word actually says. ...

Hey keras,
I think your mind is made up, but would you "flinch" if there were a specific citation in Scripture for the use of nuclear weapons in 1945?

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Hey keras,
I think your mind is made up, but would you "flinch" if there were a specific citation in Scripture for the use of nuclear weapons in 1945?

Thanks,
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Who cares about 'wars and rumors of wars' that have happened?
Got a verse that mentions Hiroshima or 1945 have you? Lets see it.

What the Lord will use on His Day of wrath, is far more powerful that all the nukes available today. The Carrington event had the power of hundreds of nukes, but that was a squib compared to the one that will change our world.
Prophecy is clear: the Lord will send His fiery wrath. ALL the world will be affected, not just localized, as in a Northern hemisphere war, as you envisage.
 
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Jesus said, when He returns will He find faith on the Earth? Luke 18:8 With so many view points, we can see why He asked this. :) I too believe the Lord will "turn up the heat", on the Day of the Lord. The whole creation will be changed to prepare for the 1000 year Kingdom. After all, God will have to burn up all the toxic crap form our modern warfare and society.

Anybody read this book by Tim Warner? I'm thinking on getting it. From what I gather, we are about 20 years away from the year 6000. I always believed the Lord has a 7000 year plan.

I'm a Pre-Wrath believer and highly recommend anyone who is looking for the soon return of the Lord pick up: Nelson Walters "Revelation Deciphered" .

https://www.amazon.com/Time-End-Tim...=1534512267&sr=8-2&keywords=time+warner+books

I read it some time ago.
I appreciate the research Pastor Warner did on the history of the Pretrib doctrine.

However, I do not agree with many of his conclusions in this book.

I used to be Prewrath.
However, after I discovered that the Book of Revelation in not in chronological order, Marvin Rosenthal's timeline fell apart.

You would be better off buying "New Covenant Theology & Prophecy" by John G. Reisinger.


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I read it some time ago.
I appreciate the research Pastor Warner did on the history of the Pretrib doctrine.

However, I do not agree with many of his conclusions in this book.

I used to be Prewrath.
However, after I discovered that the Book of Revelation in not in chronological order, Marvin Rosenthal's timeline fell apart.

You would be better off buying "New Covenant Theology & Prophecy" by John G. Reisinger.


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Who cares about 'wars and rumors of wars' that have happened?
I wouldn't insult you with such vaguarities.
Got a verse that mentions Hiroshima or 1945 have you? Lets see it.
Do you remember me suggesting that the war cited in Psalms 83 was a reference to the 1983 Lebanon invasion by Israel? And that if you were interested, you could find the 1991 Desert Storm in Psalms 91?

Well, Psalms 45 cites 1945. (Remember the rule: Book 19 is prophetic to the Jews for the 1900s, Chapter for year, such that Book 19, Chapter 48 depicts the International Recognition of the State of Israel; etc.

Don't believe me, -- read it for yourself,
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... ALL the world will be affected, not just localized, as in a Northern hemisphere war, as you envisage.
You make an excellent point in addressing where the weapons are aimed at. And this is to say that the northern hemisphere WILL suffer the vast majority of destruction. So when we read that one-quarter of the earth's population will die, -- the northern hemisphere will not suffer a 25% death rate, but closer to 35%, and the United States probably closer to 40%.

Is there any chance I could "visit" you in late 2021?

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Don't believe me, -- read it for yourself,
I have read all the prophesies. None can be made to fit past wars, since Rome conquered the Jews.
Well, Psalms 45 cites 1945. (Remember the rule: Book 19 is prophetic to the Jews for the 1900s, Chapter for year, such that Book 19, Chapter 48 depicts the International Recognition of the State of Israel; etc.
That 'rule' is meaningless supposition, those Psalms in no way fulfil your ideas.
Is there any chance I could "visit" you in late 2021?
You would be too late to escape the decimation of America, but anyway, as I point out; the whole world will be affected by the Lord's terrible Day of wrath.
 
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That 'rule' is meaningless supposition, ...
What educated individual would close his/her eyes to evidence? Doesn't diligence require investigation before discounting? What kind of judge hears none of the testimony before deciding?

Oh well, it's on you,
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Jesus said, when He returns will He find faith on the Earth? Luke 18:8
The 42 months reign of the Beast/AC mentioned in Revelation 13 is what will precede the Return of Jesus in the CLOUDS in Glory.

During these 42 months the People on the Earth will have only 2 choices
1-taking the mark and worshiping the Beast/AC and his image-
2 -be killed [beheaded] if they refuse -.
Revelation 13:5
5 and there was given to him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and there was given to him authority to continue forty and two months.

Revelation 13:14-15
14 And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived.

15 And it was given [unto him] to give breath to it, [even] to the image to the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Revelation 14:9-12 talk about the consequences of taking the mark and worshiping the Beast/AC and his image.
 
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Ezekiel 35:1-5 Look toward all the lands of the Edomites and pronounce judgement upon them. The Lord says: I shall stretch out My hand to strike your land, I will reduce it to a desolate waste and your towns will be ruined. Then you will know that I am the Lord, for you have kept up an ancient feud and shed the blood of the Israelites by warfare, during the time of their punishment. [by exile]

Ezekiel 35:6-9 Therefore as I live, says the Lord: I shall make blood your destiny, since you do not hate killing and death, that will come upon you. Your land and cities will become desolate wastes forever and no one will travel there. I will cover the hills and valleys with the dead, your towns will not be inhabited.

Ezekiel 35:10-14 You say: the two nations and two countries [The ten tribes of Israel and the two tribes of Judah] will be our possession, even though the Lord has been there. Therefore your anger and jealousy will be repaid, for I will do to the whole of Edom what you have done in your hatred for My people. I shall be known among you - for the way I judge you, you will know that the Lord has punished you. [by the means of a CME sunstrike, Isaiah 30:26-30] I have heard all your blasphemous talk about the Land of Israel, saying: the Land is ours to occupy. You have boasted and spoken against Me without restraint. So, now I will destroy you., while the whole world rejoices, As you rejoiced at the inheritance of the House of Israel, when it was desolated, so I will do to you, all your lands will be devastated. Reference: REB, NIV, KJV. Some verse abridged

The Edomites can be identified as those nations and entities - that hate My people and have kept up their ancient feud with Israel, those peoples who currently occupy a large portion of the area promised to the Patriarchs and who now threaten the Jewish State of Israel with annihilation.
Psalms 83:13-15, describes how the Lord’s Day of wrath will deal to them, as they commence their attack on Israel. Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 7:12-16, Isaiah 8:9-10, Obadiah 1:15, Micah 4:11-12

Psalms 83:12 informs us that the goal of this alliance is total possession of all the Land of Israel. This is exactly as the Charters of Hamas and Fatah state; they are not interested in a two State solution, all the Jews must either leave or be killed. THEY love killing and death. Ezekiel 35:6

Many people believe that the next prophesied event in our world will be the Gog/ Magog invasion. Others say it’s the tribulation – preceded by a rapture of the church. Some think the Return of Jesus will be next. That it will be none of these is told to us in the Book of the prophet Ezekiel, chapters 34, 35, 36, 37, 38 & 39 they all speak about the Israelites, who are now all of God’s faithful people; being gathered out of the nations and settled into the Holy Land of Israel.
Those chapters are written in a fairly obvious sequence of events. Ezekiel 34:12-13 ‘I will rescue My sheep [people] from where they were scattered in the Day of cloud and darkness, I will lead them out of the nations and bring them home to their own country’. Amos 5:18, Isaiah 13:9-10

Then comes Ezekiel 35, where it is explained how this gathering and resettlement can take place.

This attack by the peoples surrounding Israel will result in their destruction, but the Bible prophecies also say that Judah too, will be judged at this time and ‘only a holy remnant will survive’. The Land is not polluted by radiation and as the CME the Lord will use, quickly passes, the vegetation soon regenerates. Psalms 68:9, Ezekiel 36:8 You, Land of Israel, grow your trees and bear fruit, for the homecoming of My people is near. This opens the way for all the faithful Christian peoples to emigrate to their heritage.
Later will come the invasion by Gog/Magog – a different list of peoples and nations. They attack the Israelites ‘gathered from the nations and living in a land recently recovered from ruin’. Ezekiel 38:8 Their total destruction is ‘to show Myself Holy and make Myself known to many peoples’. Ezekiel 38:23

The rest of the prophecies will then unfold – the rise of the Anti Christ, the Tribulation and then, the culmination of the age: the Return of Jesus for His 1000 year reign.
 
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I have read all the prophesies. None can be made to fit past wars, since Rome conquered the Jews.
Perhaps you need some simple assistance. For example, have you read Psalms 91 in context with J.R. Church's "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms" premise? -- Yeah, I didn't think so.

And you undoubtedly didn't read Psalms 44 (Holocaust), 45 ( the U.S. in WWII), or 48 (International recognition of the State of Israel) either.

You know, you won't find what you don't look for ...
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And you undoubtedly didn't read Psalms 44 (Holocaust), 45 ( the U.S. in WWII), or 48 (International recognition of the State of Israel) either.

You know, you won't find what you don't look for ...
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Dispensationalists are most certainly the experts at eisegesis...

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Dispensationalists are most certainly the experts at eisegesis...
I've found that religious people are most certainly the experts at avoiding what Scripture and History present. -- They have a DIFFERENT agenda ...

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Perhaps you need some simple assistance. For example, have you read Psalms 91 in context with J.R. Church's "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms" premise? -- Yeah, I didn't think so.

And you undoubtedly didn't read Psalms 44 (Holocaust), 45 ( the U.S. in WWII), or 48 (International recognition of the State of Israel) either. DaDad
There is plenty of prophecy in the Psalms.
But it is quite unbelievable to make Psalm numbers relate to dates or recent wars. That is similar to astrology and divination and not allowed on this forum.
Here is a Prophetic Psalm:
Psalms 97:1 The Lord reigns, let all the earth rejoice. Righteousness and justice are the foundations of His throne.
Psalms 97:2-12 Cloud and thick mist enfolds Him. Fire goes ahead and consumes His enemies all around. His lightning flashes light up all the world and the earth quakes. Mountains melt like wax at His approach, God, the Maker of all things.

The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all the peoples look to His glory. Those who worship idols will be shamed – worship God, all you gods!

Zion hears and rejoices, all the towns of Judah are glad at your judgements. For You, are the Most High over all the earth.

The Lord loves those who hate evil and He keeps His loyal servants safe. He rescues them from the power of the wicked. Light comes upon His people and joy comes to the upright in heart. Rejoice in your God, all you that are righteous and praise His Holy Name.

Psalms 97 is the story in a ‘nutshell’ of what the Lord plans to do in the immediate future of our world:

Verse 1 – reminds us of the Lord’s Kingship and His just rule over His creation.

Verse 2-5 – Describes literally and accurately the next prophesied event, the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, when He won't be seen. The Lord will use a seemingly natural disaster, a massive CME to destroy His enemies, those who are living in the Holy Land and those who conspire to attack the State of Israel. Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Revelation 6:12-17

Verse 6-7 – Tells how the false religions and the idols of our modern age, will be put to shame, that is: discredited and their holy places destroyed. eg; the Dome of the Rock

Verse 8-9 All of that area, from the Sea, [Mediterranean] to the Great river, [Euphrates – Numbers 34:1-12] will be cleared and cleansed. Isaiah 66:15-17

Verse 10-12 The Lord will protect and rescue everybody ‘who hates evil’ and those ‘who call on His Name’. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21 His Spirit will be sent upon them. Ezekiel 36:25-28

They will live in all of that Land promised to the Patriarchs, in peace and prosperity. Isaiah 32:15-20, Ezekiel 34:11-16

Jesus is not present, as He will be later for His Millennial reign. This is clear from Ezekiel 34:30 Thus you will know that I: Y’hovah, your God, am with you and that you are My people. This is stated by Ezekiel 36 times. By His deeds, we will know Him.

Isaiah 6:11-13 I asked the Lord: How long? [Before the redemption of His people]
He answered; Until the Land and cities are ruined and deserted, the houses unoccupied. The Lord will drive the population far away and the country will be one vast desolation.
[All the holy Land] Even though a tenth of the people remain, they too, will be destroyed until only a stump remains, but that will become a holy seed.

The current population of the Holy Land will be 2/3rds killed by the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath and of the remainder, only a remnant will survive, to ‘become a holy seed’ of the House of Judah. Their kinsmen; the House of Israel, now every faithful Christian person, will then join them. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10
 
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... it is quite unbelievable to make Psalm numbers relate to dates or recent wars. ...
Have you tested the J.R. Church "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms" premise, or are you simply scoffing?

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