Possibility of Aliens even with Christian Theology

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No such thing as aliens

Learn the cosmology and the different levels of spiritual entities and you will see that aliens and anything coming from “space” are the devil and his angels.
 
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Truly fascinating to explore the universe. God Almighty put humans on earth, and only on it. So, I don't think that humans or other intelligent life exists elsewhere (like in Star Wars or Star Trek). But, that shouldn't stop us from exploring other planets and terraforming them for human habitation, God willing:).
 
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Truly fascinating to explore the universe. God Almighty put humans on earth, and only on it. So, I don't think that humans or other intelligent life exists elsewhere (like in Star Wars or Star Trek). But, that shouldn't stop us from exploring other planets and terraforming them for human habitation, God willing:).
I don't think the planets are like Earth. No room to land on, let alone terraform.
 
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I don't think the planets are like Earth. No room to land on, let alone terraform.
Nevertheless, it's a fascinating possibility (I'm thinking of rocky planets like Mars, which can be landed on. Terraforming, is another matter, though). :).
 
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It is very likely that many of the billions of other planets that exist in the universe have conditions appropriate to life as we know it. And there may even be planets that are not hospitable to life as we know it, but might be hospitable to entirely different kinds of living organisms we cannot even imagine. In any case, we can speculate, but there is no way of knowing until such life is actually discovered. And if we make such discoveries, it won't make the slightest difference in the history of God and His people on Earth. The "image of God" has nothing to do with our physical appearance. It refers to our spiritual nature.
 
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So, I had a discussion recently with someone who believed that aliens probably exist on other planets. After talking to them for a while longer, I understood that they were a Christian, so I tried to use biblical arguments to shoot this down, since I don't believe aliens exist. I realized that although there were a lot of small oppositions I could raise, there was nothing I could do to destroy the argument. It seemed to me that it's insanely unlikely, and I don't know why God ever would create aliens on another planet, but totally plausible. I wanted to hear other opinions on this, though, so I was not skilled enough to fully defend myself.

Some of the points raised were as follows:
If we're created in the image of God, and Jesus appeared as a human to save us, then wouldn't these aliens have to human like us?
They probably would have to be human, but this doesn't prove anything.

Would these aliens have their own paradise like we did in the Garden, and did they have their own fall, and did Jesus appear to them as well to save them from their sins?
This would have to be true if there were aliens, but this still doesn't prove anything.

When the souls of those who die on the other planet go to the same heaven that we do when we die? And since heaven is only temporary, what happens when heaven comes down to earth to restore the paradise that was lost in the fall?
They would likely go to the same heaven, but when our paradise is restored, so will the other planet's paradise.
(I don't think this argument was fully answered, and I'm not sure it can be answered, but nevertheless, it doesn't single handedly destroy the theory.)

Italics are questions I raised, the bold is what the other person responded with.
Everything is paraphrased, but the full idea is there.

Romans 6:10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all;
(not just all humans here on earth)

Now I feel like there probably is some sort of contradiction to be found in the bible, but Romans 6:10 is the only I can find, and even then, it's not exactly clear, since Paul was not trying to assure his readers that aliens don't exist. Although I think there is something in Revelation that puts a high importance on earth, from what I remember, doesn't allow aliens into the story, but I don't remember it well enough to use it as an argument. I think it was in the last few chapters of Revelation.

Let me know what you think.

A few years ago I would have agreed with your friend that there were probably aliens on other planets. The reason being not a blind faith in chemical and then biological evolution but rather the creativity of God. The argument went that we already know smart creatures like angels from scripture and clearly they inhabit another plane of reality to the one we do. So clearly Gods plan and creativity were not restricted to us as a species and we know very little in fact about his wider creative purpose.

But the more I know about angels the less I actually believe this. They inhabit a spiritual plane of existence and can manifest themselves corporeally also and usually only when on a mission from God or in sinful rebellion from God.

So it seems that we are the point where Gods creative plan touches physical reality and we have no reason to believe that we are anything but the only point where that is so.

It is a very anthropocentric and geocentric view of the universe for somebody who only thinks naturalistically but not so if your focus is on an awesome God.
 
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Aliens are any life forms that didn't originate on Earth so by definition God and the angels etc are aliens....are there other aliens created like us by God that are non-angelic? Perhaps...the bible doesn't speak of such things but it's a bit of arrogance for humans to think we are the only creations God made to inhabit a world especially given just how many worlds God did make.

"Aliens" is just a word like 'dinosaurs.' How do we know that angels/demons don't have physical bodies somewhere? How can we 'entertain angels unawares' if they have no physical form whatsoever? What was Elijah's Chariot of Fire? Who were the Nephilim?

'There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio...'
 
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Aliens are any life forms that didn't originate on Earth so by definition God and the angels etc are aliens....are there other aliens created like us by God that are non-angelic? Perhaps...the bible doesn't speak of such things but it's a bit of arrogance for humans to think we are the only creations God made to inhabit a world especially given just how many worlds God did make.
How many "worlds" did God make? Not every rock flying through space is a "world".

In terms of salvation, there is only one that counts. Which actually raises a question about space travel and exploration in reference to salvation. If you were born in a space ship or on another planet, what becomes of the offer of salvation? Jesus died for those of this planet. At what point is a human no longer of this world?

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
 
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I agree that they wouldn't have to be human and in the image of God, but the animals and plants here on earth given to Adam, and Adam would care for them. Why would God put animals on other planets if there aren't humans there?

Maybe because He expects us to be there in His future age. Adam was originally given charge of all creation.
 
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What about the prophetic timeline for the end of days? It is for the whole of creation. Why should other planets burn because of what is happening here?

2 Peter 3:10-12
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. 11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
 
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No such thing as aliens

Learn the cosmology and the different levels of spiritual entities and you will see that aliens and anything coming from “space” are the devil and his angels.
I agree. Interesting note the tie between the occult and alien encounters. BINGO
 
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How many "worlds" did God make? Not every rock flying through space is a "world".

In terms of salvation, there is only one that counts. Which actually raises a question about space travel and exploration in reference to salvation. If you were born in a space ship or on another planet, what becomes of the offer of salvation? Jesus died for those of this planet. At what point is a human no longer of this world?

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

That Greek word for "world" is cosmos, which actually means "everything," not just this planet. The ancient Greeks didn't really use a word that would mean "this planet" because they did not perceive the ground they lived on as a "planet" (which means "wandering star"), even though they understood it to be a sphere.

If John had actually meant "the dirt under our feet," he would have used gaia.

My point is that John was not referring to the earth as a planet, John was referring to, first, mankind and second perhaps everything God had created.
 
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What about the prophetic timeline for the end of days? It is for the whole of creation. Why should other planets burn because of what is happening here?

2 Peter 3:10-12
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. 11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.

If we take the Genesis account as an instructive narrative for us today (which does not necessitate it being taken as literal, nor eliminate that possibility), God has in His mind a state of perfected creation which is not currently the case.

So if the prophesy is that God will transform creation to (or back to) the state of perfection that exists in His mind, then that should not be surprising.
 
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I have no idea if there are aliens, but I don't see any reason to insist that there can't be any. The universe is huge. There might be things in it that we've never even thought of.

Imagine a primitive tribe living on an island, thousands of years ago. A person walks to the shore, looks at the vast ocean and thinks, "there can't be anyone else out there".

And now, a modern human looks at the stars in the sky, thinking "there can't be anyone else out there".

And if God is infinite, than to Him it wouldn't make a difference: an island full of life, a planet full of life, a universe full of life. So I don't know if aliens exist, but I think it's definitely a possibility, and it would be amazing if even a trace of them could be found.
 
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Either there is life out there or there isn't.

If there is alien life it either knows about God and worships him, as in c.s. lewes's scifi books or is ignorant of God.

If they don't know about God then we have a duty to go and tell them.

Ha...please....there's enough discussion just what Jesus meant when he said God so loved THIS WORLD without getting into talking about other worlds.
 
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Pastor Mike Hoggard's take...

“The alien agenda is the complete take over of this planet, the killing off of five sixths, to seven eighths of the worlds population by the year 2029. The US military have known about this for forty five years, they’ve told no one.” - Philip Schneider said this in 1995 and was killed months later.
 
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I have no idea if there are aliens, but I don't see any reason to insist that there can't be any. The universe is huge. There might be things in it that we've never even thought of.

Imagine a primitive tribe living on an island, thousands of years ago. A person walks to the shore, looks at the vast ocean and thinks, "there can't be anyone else out there".

And now, a modern human looks at the stars in the sky, thinking "there can't be anyone else out there".

And if God is infinite, than to Him it wouldn't make a difference: an island full of life, a planet full of life, a universe full of life. So I don't know if aliens exist, but I think it's definitely a possibility, and it would be amazing if even a trace of them could be found.

You know how that discussion would go though. If such were found the secularist would want to have answered one question. Do they believe in a God? If not they'd say, "See there! That's an advanced civilization!" It they did believe God they'd probably want to silence that up and look for another planet.
 
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