CAN A CHRISTIAN MARRY, DIVORCE AND REMARRY?

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But if a marriage is in Jesus, between two believers, it is holy because the believers, children of God, are holy. Even if only one spouse is a believer, the children are holy, our Apostle Paul says in 1 Corinthians 7:14 > this says the unsaved spouse is "sanctified" by the saved spouse. And "sanctified" means made holy, I understand.

So, what I understand is that if a holy person married to an unbeliever can make children holy, then surely a pair of Christians have a holy marriage.

If it were not holy, then what are you saying a Christian marriage is if it is unholy???? sinful? I do know there are people who have guilt and even feel critical against the intimate activities of marriage, and so they can consider their sharing to be unholy. But if their stuff is of lust, this does not represent how the Holy Spirit is able to have two Christians sharing. Plus, the intimate activities are not all there is to Christian marriage. Marriage is all the time, and it in Jesus is holy, even though at times couples can sin and fail and be imperfect in different things they do.

It is not one or the other. But both Christian marriage and Christian celibacy are holy. And, by the way, your logic here is not stated in the Bible! So, you have not given scripture for what you have said here.

But our Apostle Paul says

"For I wish that all men were even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that." (1 Corinthians 7:7)

To me, this means that celibacy in Jesus is a gift and marriage in Christ also is a gift, and "from God". And James clearly says,

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning." (James 1:17)

So, if the marriage is in the Holy Spirit, a gift of the Holy Spirit's love . . . marriage in God's love is holy because of being in God's love which is holy.

But this does not mean that every thing a couple does is holy. For example, arguing is against God's love > Philippians 2:13-16. But even though a Christian couple might argue and complain, this does not mean they do not have the gift of marriage in the Holy Spirit.

So, if you believe marriage is not holy, whose marriage are you speaking for? Possibly, there are people who are doing their marital things in lust, and lust indeed is not holy. But as we grow in Jesus we do more and more in God's love so then we can even feel our marriage and intimate sharing is holy.

Our Apostle Paul says we need to relate "not in passion of lust," in 1 Thessalonians 4:5. And he also says,

"Let all that you do be done with love." (1 Corinthians 16:14)

God's love is holy; so what we do in God's love is holy. And our Apostle Peter says how we need to live in "holy conduct and godliness", in 2 Peter 3:11.

So, I would say that various scriptures support that marriage in Jesus is holy, plus marital sharing being done in God's holy love is holy. But even if a couple is not perfect in this, by simply being in Christ their marriage is holy :)
Our final marriage with the Lamb is holy. Worldly marriage is honorable. Celibates have a special status and place in heaven. Jesus nor any apostles performed any marriages.
 
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“To the married I give charge, not I but the Lord, that the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, let her remain single or else be reconciled to her husband)—and that the husband should not divorce his wife.” (1 Corinthians 7:10–11)

“But if the unbelieving partner desires to separate, let it be so; in such a case the brother or sister is not bound. For God has called us to peace.” (1 Corinthians 7:15)

We are not bound to submit as in marriage.

Nope!

Your definition of "bound" is invalid.

Paul defines his own terms:

A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord.

"Bound" means not free to marry, "not bound" means free to marry.
 
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“So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.” (Romans 7:3)

For believers married to believers.
 
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Can a Christian divorce their spouse and remarry? The OP asks.

The answer is......not today.

The Christian spouse can only remarry today if their spouse divorces them because of their Christian practice (1Cor. 7:14-15) or if their spouse Dies. (Rom.7:1-3).

Fornication was sex with a temple prostitute in homage to that pagan deity. Something that is not practiced today, but was punishable by death in biblical times. Same with Adultery in Jesus' time.
 
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Divorce does not nullify a marriage

Mark 10:11,12 He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

Notice that if divorce itself nullified the marriage, then if "single" or "unmarried" status was obtained through divorce, it certainly would not have been adultery for such people to then go on to marry someone else. But Jesus teaches otherwise. Since remarriage after divorce is adulterous, therefore divorce does not nullify a marriage.

Marriage lasts a lifetime

Rom 7:2-3 "For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man."

(Under the Mosaic Law, there was no provision for a wife to divorce her husband. Husbands were allowed to divorce their wives under the Mosaic Law, but Jesus revealed that such was not God's absolute standard. But such was tolerated at the time because of the hardness of their hearts. Essentially Jesus revealed that statements like Rom 7:2-3 above really apply to husbands as well as wives)

1Cor 7:39 A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives.

Remarriage after divorce not allowed, except for reconciliation

1Cor 7:10-11To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

This also implies that the husband should also remain unmarried to allow for reconciliation.

Luke 16:18b The man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

This speaks of a woman who did not take the active part in divorcing her husband, but rather was the one divorced by her husband.

Jer 3:8 "I gave faithless Israel her certificate of divorce and sent her away because of all her adulteries" ... "Return, faithless people," declares the LORD, "for I am your husband." Jer 3:14

Sexual Lust is adultery

Matt 5:28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
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The one seeking the divorce is unforgiving.

That might be purely a matter of worldly laws.

If one spouse leaves the house, lives with other mates, maybe even has children out of wedlock with other mates, "divorce" has occurred, even if that other person doesn't bother to make it legal.

It would be necessary for the abandoned spouse to seek a legal divorce to prevent further harm to herself and her family, such as being held accountable for further debts incurred.
 
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That might be purely a matter of worldly laws.

If one spouse leaves the house, lives with other mates, maybe even has children out of wedlock with other mates, "divorce" has occurred, even if that other person doesn't bother to make it legal.

It would be necessary for the abandoned spouse to seek a legal divorce to prevent further harm to herself and her family, such as being held accountable for further debts incurred.
There is no such thing as divorce in God's sight.
 
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Marriage is for same type of relationship. How does it matter between believer and non-believer?

The unbeliever is not reconciled to God. The unbeliever does not have the Holy Spirit. The unbeliever is still dead in his sins. The unbeliever is still a slave to sin. The unbeliever is not a new creation in Christ.
 
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The unbeliever is not reconciled to God. The unbeliever does not have the Holy Spirit. The unbeliever is still dead in his sins. The unbeliever is still a slave to sin. The unbeliever is not a new creation in Christ.
Do you think a believer has become perfect and holy? A marriage cannot satisfy the condition for 'agape' love
 
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Marriage is marriage and the same rules apply even for atheists.

No.

The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. -- Romans 8

The atheist is bound for hell because of his unbelief. His individual acts are irrelevant.
 
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Divorce was an Old Covenant provision. The New Covenant replaced the Old. The divorce provision does not exist in the New Covenant.

You have already been given Christ's red-letter exception, so now you're just being obstinate.
 
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Do you think a believer has become perfect and holy? A marriage cannot satisfy the condition for 'agape' love

A believer may not in his flesh be "perfect and holy," but the believer has the indwelling Holy Spirit to turn him around.
 
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The problem is, the guy committed adultery by divorcing his wife and marrying another. So the except clause did not work as you think it does. Because the innocent first wife also commits adultery when she remarries, even though her husband committed adultery first.
But you're missing the point I made, where the Wife commits adultery and the husband doesn't.
 
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But you're missing the point I made, where the Wife commits adultery and the husband doesn't.
Husband 1 commits adultery when he divorces his innocent wife and marries another.
Innocent wife 1 also commits adultery when she remarries innocent husband 2. Even though husband 1 already committed adultery when he remarried.
This means the "except clause" did not work in her case.
 
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Worldly marriage is honorable.
I think that the Bible says that what worldly people do is not honorable; because Jesus says, "without Me you can do nothing," in John 15:5.

And if something is honorable before God, this can mean it is holy. It does not have to mean either holy or honorable; it can be both.

Jesus nor any apostles performed any marriages.
Well, what about Adam and Eve?

And even if Jesus did not have a ceremony for any couple, He does talk about what God has joined together. If God has joined two Christians together, this would be holy if God has done this. And it is with the purpose of producing "godly offspring", as Malachi 2:14-15 says. So, this would be holy, if a couple is in marriage functioning to produce "godly offspring". If they are godly, I would say they are holy, and the process of marriage producing them would be holy.

But what if you are talking about people in an ungodly relationship and calling themselves married?

I would say whether they can divorce and remarry is not the question they need to deal with. If they stay ungodly while divorcing and remarrying, they're still ungodly which is their real and main problem and issue.

And if one is godly, one is likely to be busy with blessing others, not concerned with how to get out of a problem marriage.

So, in case a Christian is busy with trying to find out if he or she can get a divorce and remarry . . . may be he or she is decoying his or her attention away from what he or she really needs to be dealing with.

So, they can, but I question that it will be with God's approval.
 
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