Israel Palestine Peace Plan

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According to scripture, an outside military presence shall occupy Jerusalem for 42 months before it is taken. ...
You've "interpreted" what Scripture actually says, -- and done so errantly.

Rev. 13:5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months;

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This is not the 7 year peace treaty of Daniel 9...or do you think it is? that would make Trump the Antichrist.

Hi B.E.,
If memory serves me correctly, it seems there was a "Dayton/Oslo Peace Accord" which was signed on Sept. 13, 1993, and expired at the end of Sept. 2000, which formed the basis of the Second Intifada. Hmmmm, -- that would appear to be ~seven years~.

And I seem to recall that at the mid-point (Spring, 1997) Hale Bopp nearly crossed the earth's orbital path, and was visible NOT for the three month visible-comet record, but surprisingly for an astounding NINE MONTHS.

And come to think of it, wasn't the newly elected Benjamin Netanyahu prevented from exercising his Administration's Policies due to the limitations imposed by the Dayton/Oslo Peace Accord?

Nah, we're looking for something that has NO Scriptural foundation, NO Historical evidence, and NO celestial events.

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This is not the 7 year peace treaty of Daniel 9...or do you think it is? that would make Trump the Antichrist.
It will be interesting to hear/see what President Trump has to say.
 
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You've "interpreted" what Scripture actually says, -- and done so errantly.

Rev. 13:5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months;

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DaDad

Actually ,the military which occupies Jerusalem for the 42 months is there on behalf of the king of the north.

https://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/11-31.htm

Notice this military is stationed in Jerusalem without ever firing a single shot.It doesn't take Jerusalem by force .
After 42 months ,Jerusalem shall be taken from him.
And yes,I said taken from him .

https://biblehub.com/zechariah/14-2.htm


Now if you know anything about the king of the north's military,they wouldn't ransack Jerusalem houses and rape its women for the king of the north is the Israeli governments ally.But there are those in the middle east who would ransack Jerusalem and rape its women.They are Muslim.
 
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This is not the 7 year peace treaty of Daniel 9...or do you think it is? that would make Trump the Antichrist.
No it will not be the treaty of Daniel 9:27
I will be an agreement that induces people to say: Peace and safety...………
I Thessalonians 5:3a
 
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Now if you know anything about the king of the north's military,they wouldn't ransack Jerusalem houses and rape its women for the king of the north is the Israeli governments ally.But there are those in the middle east who would ransack Jerusalem and rape its women.They are Muslim.

Do you realize that the modern State of Israel now has enough nuclear weapons to vaporize any nation which attacks them?

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Do you realize that the modern State of Israel now has enough nuclear weapons to vaporize any nation which attacks them?


Yes I most certainly know Israel has enough nukes to destroy anyone who comes against it.

Nevertheless,an army comprised of gentiles shall occupy Jerusalem during this administration.It shall occupy Jerusalem for 42 months at which time it is attacked and overcome.
And at that time the king of the north shall respond in a great rage.

Daniel 11:44 But news from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will go out with great fury to destroy many and devote them to destruction.


You do know the king of thenorth has more than 1600 nuclear warheads at his disposal don't you?
 
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The 'sudden destruction', that will come soon after people have said: 'peace and safety', 1 Thessalonians 5:3, will not be a nuke war.
The Lord's Day of wrath is clearly described as fire from the sun, that will literally fulfil all the prophesies about that Day. Including destroying all weapons of war.

Amos 5:9 The Lord flashes forth destruction upon the strongholds of the powerful nations.

Zephaniah 1:16 A Day of battle cries against fortified cities.

Isaiah 30:25-30 ....on the Day of massacre, when fortresses fall….The sun will increase its brightness sevenfold....The Lord’s arm will descend in His fierce anger, with devouring flames of fire…..

Deuteronomy 32:22 For fire is kindled by My wrath, it burns to the realms of death below. [weapons stored underground] It devours the earth and its harvest and penetrates to the foundations of the mountains. [The electromagnetic pulse effect of huge coronal mass ejection.]

Jeremiah 25:32 Disaster spreads from nation to nation, [as the earth rotates] a mighty storm of military destruction comes.

Psalms 46:9 In all the world, He breaks the bow, snaps the spear and burns the shields in the fire.

Jeremiah 50:22-27 See how the hammer of the world is shattered. The Lord has opened His armoury, the weapons of His wrath to do His work in the land of the Babylonians. [the godless peoples] Put all warriors to the sword, lead them to slaughter, for their time has come.

Amos 2:14-16 ....the warrior will not save himself, on that Day they will all throw away their weapons and run, but they cannot escape.

Proverbs 12:12 The strongholds of the wicked crumble like clay.

Psalms 76:3 The Lord has broken the flashing arrows [nukes] and all weapons of war.

Ezekiel 7:14 The trumpet has sounded, but no one goes to war, for their actions have called forth My wrath. [An attack on Israel by the Islamic peoples. Psalms 83]

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Isaiah 34:2 The Lord’s anger is against all the nations, His wrath is against their armed forces, they will be slaughtered, their dead will stink.

Hosea 10:13-14.....because you have trusted in your chariots and in the number of your warriors, destruction will arise against your people [Israel and the Western nations.] and all your fortresses will be overthrown. [military power destroyed]

Hosea 2:18..... I shall break the bow and sword, I shall sweep all weapons of war off the earth, so that My people may lie down without fear.

Haggai 2:21-22 I shall shake the heavens and the earth, shall overthrow the thrones of kings, break the power of the heathen realms, overturn chariots, horses and riders will fall. [armies] Fear will cause them to fight amongst themselves.

Micah 5:10-11 On that Day, I shall slaughter your horses and burn your chariots and raze your [military] fortifications to the ground.

Jeremiah 49:35 I shall break the bow of Elam, [Iran] the chief weapon of their might. [bow and arrows, military code names for nuclear weapons]

The Coronal Mass Ejection, explosion of the sun, Isaiah 30:26, that the Lord will use on His great and terrible Day of vengeance and wrath, will destroy all electronic systems, cause weapons to explode, sink ships, crash aircraft, burn buildings and kill personnel.
 
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The 'sudden destruction', that will come soon after people have said: 'peace and safety', 1 Thessalonians 5:3, will not be a nuke war.
The Lord's Day of wrath is clearly described as fire from the sun, that will literally fulfil all the prophesies about that Day. Including destroying all weapons of war.

Amos 5:9 The Lord flashes forth destruction upon the strongholds of the powerful nations.

Zephaniah 1:16 A Day of battle cries against fortified cities.

Isaiah 30:25-30 ....on the Day of massacre, when fortresses fall….The sun will increase its brightness sevenfold....The Lord’s arm will descend in His fierce anger, with devouring flames of fire…..

Deuteronomy 32:22 For fire is kindled by My wrath, it burns to the realms of death below. [weapons stored underground] It devours the earth and its harvest and penetrates to the foundations of the mountains. [The electromagnetic pulse effect of huge coronal mass ejection.]

Jeremiah 25:32 Disaster spreads from nation to nation, [as the earth rotates] a mighty storm of military destruction comes.

Psalms 46:9 In all the world, He breaks the bow, snaps the spear and burns the shields in the fire.

Jeremiah 50:22-27 See how the hammer of the world is shattered. The Lord has opened His armoury, the weapons of His wrath to do His work in the land of the Babylonians. [the godless peoples] Put all warriors to the sword, lead them to slaughter, for their time has come.

Amos 2:14-16 ....the warrior will not save himself, on that Day they will all throw away their weapons and run, but they cannot escape.

Proverbs 12:12 The strongholds of the wicked crumble like clay.

Psalms 76:3 The Lord has broken the flashing arrows [nukes] and all weapons of war.

Ezekiel 7:14 The trumpet has sounded, but no one goes to war, for their actions have called forth My wrath. [An attack on Israel by the Islamic peoples. Psalms 83]

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Isaiah 34:2 The Lord’s anger is against all the nations, His wrath is against their armed forces, they will be slaughtered, their dead will stink.

Hosea 10:13-14.....because you have trusted in your chariots and in the number of your warriors, destruction will arise against your people [Israel and the Western nations.] and all your fortresses will be overthrown. [military power destroyed]

Hosea 2:18..... I shall break the bow and sword, I shall sweep all weapons of war off the earth, so that My people may lie down without fear.

Haggai 2:21-22 I shall shake the heavens and the earth, shall overthrow the thrones of kings, break the power of the heathen realms, overturn chariots, horses and riders will fall. [armies] Fear will cause them to fight amongst themselves.

Micah 5:10-11 On that Day, I shall slaughter your horses and burn your chariots and raze your [military] fortifications to the ground.

Jeremiah 49:35 I shall break the bow of Elam, [Iran] the chief weapon of their might. [bow and arrows, military code names for nuclear weapons]

The Coronal Mass Ejection, explosion of the sun, Isaiah 30:26, that the Lord will use on His great and terrible Day of vengeance and wrath, will destroy all electronic systems, cause weapons to explode, sink ships, crash aircraft, burn buildings and kill personnel.


Jesus spoke of his coming and the signs which precede the day of the Lord.Did Jesus ever say anything about peace and safety?
 
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Jesus spoke of his coming and the signs which precede the day of the Lord.Did Jesus ever say anything about peace and safety?
No, because it is people who say that. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 is clear.
People who think a settlement between Israel and the Palestinians has resolved the volatile situation there.
John said that Jesus would come in fire, with His winnowing fork and the chaff will be burned up. Matthew 3:12 This does not refer to Jesus' Return in glory, but to the Sixth Seal event, that will set the scene for all that is prophesied to happen before.

All the modern weapons of war will be destroyed, as the prophesies in quote in #30 show.
That is why ancient weapons are described for the army of Gog/Magog.
 
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No, because it is people who say that. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 is clear.
People who think a settlement between Israel and the Palestinians has resolved the volatile situation there.
John said that Jesus would come in fire, with His winnowing fork and the chaff will be burned up. Matthew 3:12 This does not refer to Jesus' Return in glory, but to the Sixth Seal event, that will set the scene for all that is prophesied to happen before.

All the modern weapons of war will be destroyed, as the prophesies in quote in #30 show.
That is why ancient weapons are described for the army of Gog/Magog.

How could anyone say there is peace and safety in the midst of war and rumors of war?

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-6.htm

And even after the talk of war which Jesus said there will be comes the war as Jesus said.

https://biblehub.com/mark/13-8.htm

So there will be war and there will be rumors(talk of war).
 
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How could anyone say there is peace and safety in the midst of war and rumors of war?

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-6.htm

And even after the talk of war which Jesus said there will be comes the war as Jesus said.

https://biblehub.com/mark/13-8.htm

So there will be war and there will be rumors(talk of war).
We are discussing the present situation as it is.
Sure, the wars and rumors of wars have not ceased since Jesus went back to heaven, but peace agreements do induce people to say: Peace and safety...
We will soon see if this one does!
 
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No.Its not confusing.I predicted during trumps presidency a gentile military shall occupy Jerusalem and the Israeli conscription shall be abolished.

Has that happened?
 
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How could anyone say there is peace and safety in the midst of war and rumors of war?
The peace and safety delusion comes after Gog/Magog. Gog/Magog - the big three are Turkey, Syria, Iran. So we are not that far away.
 
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The peace and safety delusion comes after Gog/Magog. Gog/Magog - the big three are Turkey, Syria, Iran. So we are not that far away.
There will be 'peace and safety' after the G/M attack as the Lord wipes them out.
But the time that Paul is referring to is our era, now. This is easily seen from the context of 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10
Paul is talking about the great Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.

It will be the Psalms 83:1-18 and Micah 4:11-12 event, where the surrounding nations and entities commence an attack onto Israel. The entire Middle East will be virtually depopulated, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Zephaniah 1:14-18, + and the survivors of the nations will form a One World Govt, but we Christians, all who held firm to our faith and called upon the Name of the Lord on that Day; will be gathered into all of the Holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, Romans 9:24-26, +
 
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Looks like the Trump peace Plan may be very soon.
Here is the latest possible/probable Plan:

Published in Hamas-affiliated Lebanese newspaper Al Akhbar on Saturday, the agreement included ten provisions, with every provision constituting a condition for the next one.
  1. Hamas will restrain the riots along the Gaza border fence, punishing protesters violating the terror organization’s orders.
  2. Cessation of Monday’s weekly demonstrations—including the flotillas embarking from Gaza towards the strip’s naval border with Israel—in northern Gaza near Kibbutz Zikim.
  3. The continuation of the “March of Return” campaign in its non-violent manner form until the end of the year.
  4. Egypt will work to lift 70 percent of the siege imposed on Gaza until the complete termination of the riots.
  5. Gaza’s fishing zone will increase up to 14 nautical miles.
  6. The strip’s crossings will open permanently, and 5,000 Gazans under the age of 40 will be granted work permits allowing them to be employed in Israel. The work permits will be granted only after the Palestinian Authority pays 80 percent of the salaries of Gaza’s government workers, and agrees that Qatar pays the salaries of Hamas officials.
  7. Egypt will work to implement the prisoner exchange deal between Hamas and Israel, on which currently negotiations talks are not being held.
  8. A calm of at least three years on the Gaza border under international supervision under the auspices of the United Nations and Russia.
  9. A permanent opening of the Rafah crossing and additional crossings for transferring goods into Gaza in order to support the strip’s power station and infrastructures.
  10. Launching projects meant to provide 30,000 workplaces for university graduates in Gaza.
Signed by both sides, the agreement will be binding for three years. The ceasefire was also reported by Palestinian news, Al Quds, which described the agreement as an exchange of “quiet-for-quiet” and “staged incentives.” Quote.
 
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On the OP subject: I note that the Feast of Sukkot falls on the 24/25th September, the day Trump will announce this Peace Plan.
Sukkot; Tabernacles, is very significant as the preparation for the arrival of the Messiah.
Well, that didn't happen.
 
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