God does not want people to cry?

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“Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God”.

If i cry, for God is it wrong? I know cry does not solve anything, but i feel discharged when I do it.

Jesus cried a little with Lazaro's death, but was a moment. However, I know that what He was not an example of action for sheeps, He could spoke with people who were sick (drunkards and publicans) and the Bible forbids us the believers to meet such people (even if they are Christians.) who are like this
1 Corinthians 5:11
"But now I have written that you can not keep a company, if any man that is called to be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an anno not to eat. "
 
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Philippians 4 6-8
“Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God”.

If i cry, for God is it wrong? I know cry does not solve anything, but i feel discharged when I do it.

Monks often induce themselves to cry during prayer. Even Jesus prayed to God with "tears and supplications".

St. John Climacus pondered why wine caused tears, but thought it was good for prayer because it did.
 
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Monks often induce themselves to cry during prayer.
Regarding monasticism, if a monk "induces" tears, isn't that insincere emotion with which he is trying to use them as a show of great faith during prayer? That wouldn't fool God, I wouldn't think; is that a common practice? (only curious cause I'm very ignorant about monasticism).
 
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If i cry, for God is it wrong? I know cry does not solve anything, but i feel discharged when I do it.
It's not wrong... it's blessed!

Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. (Matthew 5:4)
 
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Regarding monasticism, if a monk "induces" tears, isn't that insincere emotion with which he is trying to use them as a show of great faith during prayer? That wouldn't fool God, I wouldn't think; is that a common practice? (only curious cause I'm very ignorant about monasticism).

It certainly isn't insincere. It is deeply heartfelt. They live lives of repentance and mourn the sins of the world.


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Jas 4:9 - Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness
 
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God knows its painful to be a human being at times and I believe he loves it when we turn TO him not AWAY from him when we feel down and out.

We should be genuine in front of our maker. He knows us better than we do ourselves.
 
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I edited the question.
, He could spoke with people who were sick (drunkards and publicans) and the Bible forbids us the believers to meet such people (even if they are Christians.) who are like this
1 Corinthians 5:11
Actually if you read that more, it says to avoid so-called Christians who are that way but not those in the world. They (the worldly ones) need our witness to them.

1 Cor 5:9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church?
 
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It's not wrong to cry. Jesus wept outside Jerusalem, and at the grave of Lazarus as you say. The book of Hebrews says:

During His earthly life, He offered prayers and appeals with loud cries and tears to the One who was able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His reverence. -Heb 5:7​

In this evil world, crying is sometimes a perfectly legitimate response. But it is not the normal state of the Christian, which should be peace, thankfulness, and joy.

Jesus cried a little with Lazaro's death, but was a moment. However, I know that what He was not an example of action for sheeps, He could spoke with people who were sick (drunkards and publicans) and the Bible forbids us the believers to meet such people (even if they are Christians.) who are like this
1 Corinthians 5:11
"But now I have written that you can not keep a company, if any man that is called to be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an anno not to eat. "

There's a difference between "keeping company" and "meeting" people who are in sin. There's a place for shunning an unrepentant sinner who knows better, but otherwise, us being there could be a means of their repentance. Paul is saying in 1Cor 5 not to carry on with them as if everything is alright, because that would encourage them in their sin.

Also, I think Jesus is the perfect model for our living. We fall far short, and always will, but still, what He did, we should strive to be doing.
 
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Philippians 4 6-8
“Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God”.

If i cry, for God is it wrong? I know cry does not solve anything, but i feel discharged when I do it.

Jesus cried a little with Lazaro's death, but was a moment. However, I know that what He was not an example of action for sheeps, He could spoke with people who were sick (drunkards and publicans) and the Bible forbids us the believers to meet such people (even if they are Christians.) who are like this
1 Corinthians 5:11
"But now I have written that you can not keep a company, if any man that is called to be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an anno not to eat. "
Two things, sinners are going to sin. How can you have an influence on them if you refuse to even speak to them? I think the point was to avoid professing believers who are obvious hypocrites. And crying when praying is a good thing. It usually means you are really praying, on a deep level, not just saying words. I often find myself praying without words, with deep sighing and groanings. At first I felt guilty about not praying often enough in an kind of organized style, then I realized that those wordless prayers are actually the most heartfelt ones.

. 26In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know how we ought to pray, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groans too deep for words. 27And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.…
 
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If i cry, for God is it wrong? I know cry does not solve anything, but i feel discharged when I do it.
Crying is a way of showing emotion as is something like laughing.

The only time I can think of that it would be wrong in God's eyes is if it is faked for manipulating or deceiving someone. If it's an honest reflection of what's inside; it's an honest reflection of what's inside.
 
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Philippians 4 6-8
“Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God”.

If i cry, for God is it wrong? I know cry does not solve anything, but i feel discharged when I do it.

Jesus cried a little with Lazaro's death, but was a moment. However, I know that what He was not an example of action for sheeps, He could spoke with people who were sick (drunkards and publicans) and the Bible forbids us the believers to meet such people (even if they are Christians.) who are like this
1 Corinthians 5:11
"But now I have written that you can not keep a company, if any man that is called to be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an anno not to eat. "

The verse says nothing about crying. It is talking about anxieties/worrying etc.
It is telling us to tell God about what causes us concerns, anxieties, worries etc.
 
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The only time I can think of that it would be wrong in God's eyes is if it is faked for manipulating or deceiving someone.
I was raised with the idea that ALL crying was manipulation.
If it's an honest reflection of what's inside; it's an honest reflection of what's inside.
And the answer to that was "You are not supposed to have that inside you."
 
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Actually if you read that more, it says to avoid so-called Christians who are that way but not those in the world. They (the worldly ones) need our witness to them.

1 Cor 5:9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church?

I saw this from another point of view. He was able to interact with the badness of others. Because He is the pastor. We (the believers, the sheeps) by being born of flesh (having a wicked heart) interact with people who are in sin can harm us.
 
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He was able to interact with the badness of others. Because He is the pastor.
Paul was NOT a pastor. He would have to have been married to hold that office.
We (the believers, the sheeps) by being born of flesh (having a wicked heart) interact with people who are in sin can harm us.
We the sheep are expected to share our faith with those who are unbelievers. We cannot do that by insulating and isolating ourselves away from the world.
 
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Paul was NOT a pastor. He would have to have been married to hold that office.

Read again the post, i was talking about Jesus.

We the sheep are expected to share our faith with those who are unbelievers. We cannot do that by insulating and isolating ourselves away from the world.

In Corinthians, is correct, Paul is talking about Christians. He said that because if you talk with them you are vulnerable to convert what they are now for influence. It is an announcement. The effect it´s the same like you have a friend/couple that is wordly.
 
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If i cry, for God is it wrong? I know cry does not solve anything, but i feel discharged when I do it.

Crying is a healthy, emotional release usually - so definitely nothing wrong with that.
 
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The shortest verse in the Bible is "Jesus wept" - we are not told for how long.
If we have been created with tear ducts and so that our natural response to something sad/shocking is to cry, why would God say that it is wrong?

I'm pretty sure that it says somewhere in Revelation that God saves all our tears in a bottle; suggesting that they are precious to him.
 
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