But you are evading my basic point! Again! Please - it verges on dishonesty to not actually deal with what others are saying when you pass yourself off as actually dealing with what they post. And worse yet, having done so, to then sermonize at us.
Hello expos4ever, hmm now brother is this being honest? I have gone through all of your posts point by point and provided scripture verse by verse in context to show that your teaching is not biblical and God's ETERNAL LAW is not abolished but give us a KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and Evil; SIN and RIGHTOEUSNESS (Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; James 2:10-11; 1 John 3:4; Pslams 119:172). You have not responded to these posts but have simply choses to repeat the same posts that have already been answered. What point do you feel I am evading that has not already been responded to with God's WORD?
I repeat: How do you know that the stuff in Romans 7:7 - about how the Law teaches us what sin is - is eternal, that it is true through all time? Tough case to make especially since Paul says elsewhere that the Law is a tutor that we are no longer "under".
It is not a tough case to make at all and has already been answered with God's WORD in a previous post that you have chosen to ignore. Here is the short version from v23-25. You were posted the longer version earlier from v17-25
GALATIANS 3:23-25 VERSE BY VERSE
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[23], But before faith came, we were kept UNDER THE LAW, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
v23, says before faith has come it says we were kept "UNDER THE LAW", shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE "UNDER THE LAW"?
ROMANS 3:19-20 [19], Now we know that WHATSOEVER THINGS THE LAW SAYS, IT SAYS TO THEM WHO ARE
UNDER THE LAW: THAT EVERY MOUTH MAY BE STOPPED AND ALL THE WORLD MAY BECOME GUILTY BEFORE GOD. [20], Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN.
1 JOHN 3:4 [4], Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: FOR SIN IT THE TRANGRESSION OF THE LAW.
[ANSWER] So to be "UNDER THE LAW" in this case means to be GUILTY BEFORE GOD of breaking the LAW (sin). FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN and this is what God's LAW teaches us. That we are all sinners in need of a Saviour
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[24], Therefore the law was our
schoolmaster [GREEK παιδαγωγός means tutor; instructor; teacher; schoolmaster] to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
v24 the GREEK word used for your versions rendition of guardian [I do not know how they get that translation]. The KJV is Schoolmaster which is a better translation to the original GREEK word used which is παιδαγωγός which means tutor; instructor; teacher; schoolmaster.
So v24 says that the LAW was our TEACHER, TUTOR, SCHOOLMASTER to bring us unto Christ that we might be justified by FAITH.
SO WE ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT DOES THE LAW TEACH US?
We touched on it earlier...
ROMANS 3:20 [20], Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN.
[ANSWER] v23 and v24 says being "UNDER THE LAW" means to be guilty before God of SIN. God's LAW is TEACHING US what SIN is. GOD'S LAW teaches us by giving us a KNOWLEDGE of what sin is. God's LAW shows us that we are all sinners in need of a Savior. THE LAW is our TEACHER, TUTOR, SCHOOLMASTER that teachers us that we are sinners it gives us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is and BRINGS US TO CHRIST that we might be justified by FAITH.
This is the purpose of God's LAW in the Gospel. It teacher us that we are all sinners in need of a Savior that we might be justified by Faith.
* IF there is NO LAW then we have no KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is (NO TEACHER, SCHOOLMASTER)
* IF we have no KNOWLEDGE of SIN we do not KNOW that we are all sinners in need of a Savior.
* IF we have no need of a Savior then we have no Salvation.
* If we have no Salvation then we are all lost because we are still in our sins and the scripture is fulfilled
ROMANS 3:12-13 [12], For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; [13], For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
So v14 God's LAW is our TEACHER that gives us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is and lead us to Christ that we might be justified by FAITH.
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[25], But after faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. [GREEK παιδαγωγός means tutor; instructor; teacher; schoolmaster]
Final section then we will tie it all together.
v25 NOW when FAITH has COME we are no longer UNDER THE LAW, TEACHER, TUTOR, SCHOOLMASTER
WHEN FAITH IS COME WHY ARE WE NO LOGER "UNDER THE LAW" TEACHER?
[ANSWER] Because the purpose of the LAW is to bring us to show us we are all sinners in need of a Savior. It brings us to Christ that we might be justified by FAITH. When we have FAITH in God's WORD we have FORGIVENESS. We are no longer GUILTY and CONDEMNED by the LAW, THE BLOOD of CHRIST Cleanses US from ALL SIN. No longer being guilty we are no longer UNDER THE LAW BEING CONDEMNED by it.
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CONCLUSION:
Galatians 3:23-25 does not say God's LAW (10 Commandments) are ABOLISHED. The scriptures say when FAITH has come we are no longer "UNDER THE LAW" as a schoolmaster; teacher or tutor that show us our sins because we have been forgiven our sins by faith in the precious blood of Christ.
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GODS ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) ARE FOREVER
The Law of God (10 commandments) which includes the 4th commandment is the work of God (
Exodus 32:16) whatsoever God does is forever nothing can be added to it or taken away (
Ecclesiastes 3:14).
God's Law is perfect converting the soul (
Psalms 19:7).
It is the very standard of the Old and New Covenants (
Exodus 20:1:17,
Hebrews 8:10-12).
God's Law was spoken by God himself to His people (
Exodus 20:1-22). Jesus says Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away (
Matthew 25:35). Gods Law is still in force today (
Psalms 111:7-8,
Revelation 12:17, 14:12, 22:14,
1 John 3:5-8,
1 John 2:3-4 etc.). The Law of God reveals sin to us so we can see ourselves as we truly are sinners in need of a Saviour (
Romans 3:20;
1 John 3:4). It is the great standard of the judgement (
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14,
James 2:10-12,
1 John 3:4, Acts 17:31).
God's Law is our teacher revealing sin and the character of God and brings us to Christ at the foot of the cross that we might be saved by faith by Him who loves us and washed us in His own blood (
Galatians 3:24;
Revelation 1:5). Jesus came not to abolish the law, but to fulfil it (
Matthew 5:17-20 ). The law is the embodiment of truth that instructs (
Romans 2:18-19 ). It is "holy" and "spiritual, " making sin known to us by defining it; therefore, Paul delights in it (
Romans 7:7-14Romans 7:22).
The law is good if used properly ( 1 Tim 1:8 ), and is not opposed to the promises of God (
Galatians 3:21 ). Faith does not make the law void, but the Christian establishes the law (
Romans 3:31), fulfilling its requirements by walking according to the Spirit (
Romans 8:4) through love (
Romans 13:10).
You cannot know the power of God or the Gospel of Grace without the 10 commandments. If there is NO LAW then you do not know what SIN is (
James 2:11;
Romans 7:7;
Romans 3:20;
1 John 3:4). If you do not know what SIN is you have NO need of a Savior. If you have NO need of a Savior you have NO Salvation. If you have NO Salvation you are LOST because it is written.
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Romans 7:7, God's LAW does indeed give a KNOWLEDGE of sin..
PAUL says it they give us a KNOWLEDGE of what sin is (
Romans 3:20). Paul also specifically show us this by giving an example in
Romans 7:7 saying that he did not know what sin was without God's 10 Commandments and uses God's 10th Commandment (coveting) as an example (
Exodus 20:17). Then if you like we can go to James who says that if we break any of God's 10 Commandments we are sinners and will be judged by God's LAW (
James 2:8-12). John also confirms that sin is breaking God's commandment in
1 John 3:4. On top of all this we have Jesus who says that nothing will pass from God's LAW until heaven and earth pass away after the 2nd coming (
Matthew 5:17-19). Yep lot's of scripture that says that it is sin to break any of the 10 Commandments brother expos4ever, so there is no need to assum anything as it is all written in God's WORD.
Hope this helps
