A question for flat earth people
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Yes there is a lot about the account of life in Eden, Adam and Eve’s story and so on that is difficult to understand. What was their thinking prior to obtaining knowledge of good and evil, for one thing? What are we to understand from their state of innocence to have been exactly? Perhaps you can shed some light on that. Personally I think the story is allegorical in some way, although I’m not sure what much of it means.
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1/ God is Omnipotent... correct?
Therefore I conclude that He could do it.
2/ The verses of Genesis one describe six literal days with expressed detail of "there was evening and there was morning, the first day" (note: it started on the first day).. then the second day is described the same way.. the third, the fourth and so on... Also, the bible states "“For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day." Exodus 20:11.
There are other places in the canonized scripture that refer to this six days of work and one day rest...
My conclusion... He said that He did it.
3/ Only the scientific minds of men have arrived at reasons for the need for more than six days...Unless, of course, you can show me the words of God that say that it was more than six days.
My conclusion... Only the wisdom of men counters the words of God.
4/ God stated that the wisdom of men is foolishness:
My conclusion... believe the Bible.. not Bill Nye the actor Guy.
1 Corinthians 3:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.
Romans 1:22 King James Version (KJV)
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Colossians 2:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
1 Corinthians 1:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
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I disagree , it's pretty simple to understand what happen , there was no death , Lion ate straw for example .
Eve sinned , sin caused pain , death and suffering which were caused by God cursing them as punishment .
You can't know difference between two things if you don't know both of them .
Person which knew no evil could know only good , the revelation for them was to experience evil so they could finally understand what good and evil is .
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Under earth where God throw some nasty creatures
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?hs=1&q=bottomless
Revelation 9:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
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There’s nothing new about questioning whether or not the account is meant to be taken literally, questions about that predate modern science by centuries. The reason for that is that an analysis of the text itself, just as it is, throws up problems with your approach of just reading it and taking it to mean what you happen to think. Why do you think your interpretation is in some way more valid than an interpretation based on what we can know about how people thought at the time?
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WHERE are we told this in scripture ?
I recall that the Lion will eat straw, but not the Lion ate straw ...
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In book of second opinions chapter 2
" And the Lion should nomnom straw "
or you can take Isaiah if you prefer him
Isaiah 11:6-9 King James Version (KJV)
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea
It's true, cats are just small lions .
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Most of us would claim to be very familiar with the Biblical story of the creation, temptation and fall found in Genesis 2. Some fundamental Christians might rejoice in it as a proof text for the inferiority of women and their continued suppression both in the church and in society at large. More liberal Christians might condemn it as an irredeemably patriarchal and mythological account. However when carefully examined without dogmatic preconceptions and with the help of competent scholarship, the story loses much of it's imagined patriarchy and opens into fresh insights.
To begin with, Genesis 2 is completely unlike the other Biblical creation accounts such as in Genesis 1, Proverbs 8, Psalm 104 or Job 38. It is a "stand alone" account. It begins with God creating ha'adam from ha'adama. This Hebrew pun literally means "the earth creature from the earth". It is usually quite difficult to preserve a pun in translation from one language to another but in English we might say, "the human from the humus". Note that ha'adam is not yet at this point a proper name but merely indicates what it is. In Hebrew it is a nephesh or "living creature". Note also "it" is not yet a creature with a sexual identification of any kind. We should further note that God's creative action here might be thought of as a form of evolution from a lower state to a higher.
God continues the creative process by producing a "garden" of all vegetation and places the ha'adam there to tend and till it. The care of the garden is entrusted to the care of the earth creature whom we might even think of as the patron saint of the environmental movement. The ha'adam is informed that it may eat of the fruit of any plant except the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil". This suggests two things. Firstly, the ha'adam is a totally naïve and innocent creature. Without the knowledge of good and evil it lacks even the capability of sin. This would seem to me a crucial defect in the storyteller's development of this mythology.
Now we are informed that our androgynous ha'adam is lonely. Would not an omniscient God have foreseen this from the beginning? To remedy this lack of foresight God creates the animals and brings them to the ha'adam who names them, thus attaining symbolic power over them. However the ha'adam does not find another creature that would be suitable to overcome it's loneliness. Did God really think that an aardvark or a platypus would be a suitable companion? Once again it seems odd that God could not have foreseen this as well. God now intervenes to cast the ha'adam into a deep sleep so as to perform the world's first "sex change operation". The rib taken from the ha'adam is formed into a woman and what remains of the ha'adam is now male. Both sexes came into being simultaneously! The woman is now described as a suitable "helpmate" to the man who is still referred to as ha'adam even though he is now a sexual creature. The Hebrew word that translates as "helpmate" seems to us in our language to infer a degree of inferiority. This is primarily a translation problem since the same word is used in many instances to refer to God as the helpmate of Israel. This hardly could suggest inferiority! It could in fact be suggestive that the female is superior to the male at this point.
Essay remains unfinished.
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Numerous examples of this have been shown to be an illusion of a "vanishing point".
If you watch a ship go out to sea and dissappear over the horizon... grab a telescope or camera with a zoom lens and take a look.. the ship will reappear.. even as it is supposed to be over the opaque hump of the ocean and should it should not be possible to see it for the wall or hump of water.
Explain how you can have the shadow of the earth pass over the moon while the sun is still up. ( I know.. you probably have not heard of this.. but it is true, it happens and the egg heads have all kinds of "Splaining" as to how it can happen... Mostly.. they just blabber on about "refraction".
Then, explain how the shadow of the last Solar eclipse went the wrong way and was too small. Everyone knows that any shadow of any object is always, always, always either the same size or larger than the object making the shadow... This would make the moon 70 miles wide... or smaller.
However.. all the models are flawed and show a huge sun or rays of light from the sun that converge on the earth instead of a parallel path... Don't bother asking me to show them... do some of your own research on this stuff and use google. They are all over the internet.
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Better still, explain why the horizon always rises to be at your line of site... If you stood on a giant ball, you would only see so far before you saw the edge. If you raised up 100 feet, you would see farther. However, seeing farther would mean that the surface you could see would be lower as it drops away. Go higher still and it will compound this phenomenon... Keep going and the horizon line should fall further and further. Thus you would have to tip your head down more and more as the horizon dropped away.
This does not happen.. No matter how high you go.. there it is.. right in the middle of your line of site... the horizon.
See response to point 1.
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That cat seems kind of hungry. Don’t think it’d say no to a mouse.
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This actually can happen but under very special circumstances. The observer must be standing precisely on the terminator. This that point on the surface that marks the line between light and dark. The line of termination can be seen quite clearly on the moon. At this point the observer would be in a direct line betwen sun and moon and would be seeing the earth's shadow eclipsing the moon while the sun was setting directly behind him. This would only observed for a few minutes. This effect would be enhanced a bit by the refraction of the sun's light as it passes through the atmosphere. This makes the sun appear to be just at the horizon when actually it is just below the horizon. I hope this clears things up for you.
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Tonight when it is fully dark walk directly toward a street light. It would help if the street lights were quite widely spaced so that you are not seeing multiple washed out shadows. Walk slowly backwards toward the light (be careful not to trip) and look at your own shadow. At first it will be lengthy and much longer than you are tall. As you get closer your shadow shortens until when you are directly under the light you are literally standing on your own shadow. The same sort of effect is evident in the solar eclipse diagram below:
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/599aff99f1a850c02a8b60bb-750-582.png
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This is due to the enormous size of the Earth. What you see at the Earth's surface will always appear to be at your line-of-sight.
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