Who is the Spirit?

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And 17, to which I gave a LIKE, responded to 16.

Yes 17 to 16, you agreed upon,

But, #14 and #15 are alike with the exception of,
"It is not nice"

So if you missed that, it may not mean you are going senile,

you just missed it.

Even Christians are not special snowflakes.
 
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Yes 17 to 16, you agreed upon,

But, #14 and #15 are alike with the exception of,
"It is not nice"

So if you missed that, it may not mean you are going senile,

you just missed it.
Why are we having this conversation, anyway?

Did I respond to the wrong post or something?
 
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John 15:26 and Genesis 1:2

The [Holy] Spirit of God is something God in heaven sends to earth, and (nowadays) the humans on it.

The Holy Spirit communicates voices, visions & dreams from God to people. It can in-spire people to act in spirit-ed ways, so animating people like the Prophets with (say) righteous anger to rebuke sin.

The Holy Spirit has something to do with information:
  • "transmit" = Holy Spirit of God informs humans on earth of Divine Will (John 15:26)
  • "receive" = Holy Spirit of God informs God what is happening on earth (Gen 1:2)
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Meanwhile, the Word [Greek Logos] of God was also present with God in the beginning (John 1:1). The Word of God actually "makes" or "generates" (Greek ginomai) things.

So, whereas the Holy Spirit is more of an information channel, the Word is what God uses to act upon matter to craft it according to Divine Will.

The Word is more of a constructive, creative, crafting / fashioning / molding / shaping / purposing principle.

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God has communicated to Jesus and the Prophets & Apostles via HS.

Yet the matter-manipulating Word was required for the Immaculate Conception & Resurrection, which involved more than just voices, visions & dreams and such.

(all of the above is my current understanding)
 
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Quote: "It is not God's job to forgive because God is beyond forgiveness, he is blind to anything that would require forgiveness since he did not create it, it does not exist."

Ezekiel 7:3
The end is now upon you, and I will unleash my anger against you. I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.
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Ezekiel 7:8
I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you. I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.
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Ezekiel 7:27
The king will mourn, the prince will be clothed with despair, and the hands of the people of the land will tremble. I will deal with them according to their conduct, and by their own standards I will judge them. “‘Then they will know that I am the Lord.’”
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Ezekiel 18:30
“Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall.
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Ezekiel 20:36
As I judged your ancestors in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will judge you, declares the Sovereign Lord.
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Ezekiel 21:30
“‘Let the sword return to its sheath. In the place where you were created, in the land of your ancestry, I will judge you.
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Ezekiel 33:20
Yet you Israelites say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ But I will judge each of you according to your own ways.”
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Ezekiel 34:17
“‘As for you, my flock, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will judge between one sheep and another, and between rams and goats.
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Ezekiel 34:22
I will save my flock, and they will no longer be plundered. I will judge between one sheep and another.
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Luke 19:22
“His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow?
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It's hard to describe but you are misinterpreting the statement 'I will judge' It is a parable, I have given the real interpretation.

You are judged by your own actions but God is not actually doing anything to you, you only harm yourself by not following his law.

Matthew 7:1
Matthew 6:14

My knowledge comes from the 'spirit', not the bible and therefore I am capable of correct interpretation. I havn't even read the bible fully, I just search for quotes, knowing they will be there. I only use the bible as a reference point because it is what you use.

Following God's laws truly is the most difficult and simple thing one can do, as well as the greatest. The bible is about God, it is folly to be held in higher regard than God himself.
 
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Trimaran, three hulls, one boat, am I getting close?

Sometimes I act as a teacher to my children, other times authoritarian, other times just in love with them. It's situational often times, depends upon what I need to be in that moment.

The times my children need me to simply love them and spend time with them doesn't lessen the authority and judgement aspect of what I am, and neither of those lessens who I am as their teacher..

I can be all three of these things to my children and still I'm just one woman...

And so it is with God. God is spirit which indwells us, took on flesh flesh be our perfect sacrifice and sits on the throne in heaven as ruler and Lord of all.

No aspect of God changes any other aspect - it's just three forms the One God took on.

Similar to waters ability to be ice or steam, but unlike water God does not change due to an outside influence... He is always simply God.
 
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It's hard to describe but you are misinterpreting the statement 'I will judge' It is a parable, I have given the real interpretation.

You are judged by your own actions but God is not actually doing anything to you, you only harm yourself by not following his law.

Matthew 7:1
Matthew 6:14

My knowledge comes from the 'spirit', not the bible and therefore I am capable of correct interpretation. I havn't even read the bible fully, I just search for quotes, knowing they will be there. I only use the bible as a reference point because it is what you use.

Following God's laws truly is the most difficult and simple thing one can do, as well as the greatest. The bible is about God, it is folly to be held in higher regard than God himself.
Lets see if I got this right, you are not sure what the bible says, but you are certain that I am wrong. Is that right? Plus, you believe God's judgement is a parable and not literal.
 
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Who is the Holy Spirit?


Psalm 51:10,11
10 Create in me a pure heart, O God (Elohiym), and renew a steadfast spirit within me. 11 Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me.



Isaiah 63:7,10
7 I will tell of the kindnesses of the LORD (Yahwah) , the deeds for which he is to be praised, according to all the LORD (Yahwah) has done for us— yes, the many good things he has done for the house of Israel, according to his compassion and many kindnesses. 10 Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit. So he turned and became their enemy and he himself fought against them.



Isaiah 63:11
Then his people recalled the days of old, the days of Moses and his people— where is he who brought them through the sea, with the shepherd of his flock? Where is he who set his Holy Spirit among them,…



Psalm 18:31
For who is God (Eloah) besides the LORD (Yahwah)? And who is the Rock except our God (Elohiym)?



1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Yahshua be cursed," and no one can say, "Yahshua is lord," except by the Holy Spirit.



1 Thessalonians 4:8
Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit.
 
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Lets see if I got this right, you are not sure what the bible says, but you are certain that I am wrong. Is that right? Plus, you believe God's judgement is a parable and not literal.

No, I am sure what the bible says, it all makes perfect sense to me. If I share a belief I will state that it is a belief. God's judgement is not an act of God, it is the act of disobeying him.
 
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No, I am sure what the bible says, it all makes perfect sense to me. If I share a belief I will state that it is a belief. God's judgement is not an act of God, it is the act of disobeying him.
Have a nice day!
 
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I'm going to throw a different idea into the mix using Christian imaging. If a person were to follow each of the 3 aspects of the Christian God to their source to where they merge into the Oneness of God, it's at that single point of convergence is where I go in my worship of God and where I go to know God. And it's looking through that place of Oneness that I'm unable to see as separate from God any images of God as being in 3 different pieces. For me, it's all One!
 
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Sometimes I act as a teacher to my children, other times authoritarian, other times just in love with them. It's situational often times, depends upon what I need to be in that moment.

The times my children need me to simply love them and spend time with them doesn't lessen the authority and judgement aspect of what I am, and neither of those lessens who I am as their teacher..

I can be all three of these things to my children and still I'm just one woman...

And so it is with God. God is spirit which indwells us, took on flesh flesh be our perfect sacrifice and sits on the throne in heaven as ruler and Lord of all.

No aspect of God changes any other aspect - it's just three forms the One God took on.

Similar to waters ability to be ice or steam, but unlike water God does not change due to an outside influence... He is always simply God.

It does not register for me, I was just playing with words.

God is not a construct of the human mind,
God is the reality in which we stand.

There is one source, like the sun,
it gives light,
the moon can reflect the light, but the moon is not the sun.
 
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