Is Eschatology based on the Book of Enoch like a "Flat Earth"?

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The Moon and Sun .....as seen from planet Mars.


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You can't send anything through such distance ,not single photo , not even from the moon with better power supply from the module , what you have is simply CGI .
I suggest to you watching this video of how the supposed sygnals are sent and how the supposed telephone from White House in 1969 made it to moon , spoiler it did not .

 
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You can't send anything through such distance ,not single photo ,
That must be because of the Solid Dome around the Flat Earth who block everything coming from outher space...nothing can go outside the DOME and nothing can enter into the DOME...
 
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That must be because of the Solid Dome around the Flat Earth who block everything coming from outher space...nothing can go outside the DOME and nothing can enter into the DOME...

No the video shows there is no enought power to send the signal assuming the sphere . Clear evidence from the NASA itself .
 
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No the video shows there is no enought power to send the signal assuming the sphere . Clear evidence from the NASA itself .
NOTHING can enter the SOLID DOME around the FLAT EARTH...so even if they had 1,000 times more power -at the time- it's impossible....because of the DOME.
 
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NOTHING can enter the SOLID DOME around the FLAT EARTH...so even if they had 1,000 times more power -at the time- it's impossible....because of the DOME.

Yea but we answer according to a folly , showing it being Impossible from thier point of worldview.
One need to show the impossibility of something else to make the other more coherent .
For example somebody from India could argue we fly on flat plane which is put on turtle's back.


Something could go throught the dome , angels can go up and down as we are told in Scriptures .
 
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Something could go throught the dome , angels can go up and down as we are told in Scriptures .
Yes,angels can do that .....Angels can also eat and digest our foods...Abraham and Loth have even taken a dinner with 3 Angels.
 
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You can't send anything through such distance
Hooey. If you have the necessary radiated power, it's a piece of cake. I've talked CW (Morse code) by bouncing signals off the moon, from my house, with a couple of thousand bucks worth of gear.

That's the problem. When people don't know how anything works you can sell them any story if you sound sincere enough.
 
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Hooey. If you have the necessary radiated power, it's a piece of cake. I've talked CW (Morse code) by bouncing signals off the moon, from my house, with a couple of thousand bucks worth of gear.

That's the problem. When people don't know how anything works you can sell them any story if you sound sincere enough.

We talk about real life phone call in 69 to the moon , how do you even not lose the signal with both moon and earth rotating and moving , the antena was never rotated itself .
 
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We talk about real life phone call in 69 to the moon , how do you even not lose the signal with both moon and earth rotating and moving , the antena was never rotated itself .
Giant dish antennas operated by NASA at strategic locations AROUND the world were used to receive the signal emitted from the Moon...

Warning ...it is possible that you learn something ,,,,but i doubt that Flat Earthers have that hability ...because of the DOME around your heads.

https://www.quora.com/How-was-NASA-able-to-telecast-live-video-from-the-first-moon-landing
 
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Giant dish antennas operated by NASA at strategic locations AROUND the world were used to receive the signal emitted from the Moon...

Warning ...it is possible that you learn something ,,,,but i doubt that Flat Earthers have that hability ...because of the DOME around your heads.

https://www.quora.com/How-was-NASA-able-to-telecast-live-video-from-the-first-moon-landing

Problem is not with the antena but with the rotation of earth to point the antena towards the receiver and on top of that the power to send strong enought signal over 250 000miles
 
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Problem is not with the antena but with the rotation of earth
to point the antena towards the receiver and on top of that the power to send strong enought signal over 250 000miles
With Giants Dish Antenna(s) plural/ located in Strategic Locations AROUND the Earth ... NASA was able to receive the signal coming from the Moon...
 
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With Giants Dish Antenna(s) plural/ located in Strategic Locations AROUND the Earth ... NASA was able to receive the signal coming from the Moon...

That's now what the data shows you simply want to believe it because it makes you comfortable .With power they had it could be maximum of 60 miles signal , hardly compareable to 250 000 miles
 
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That's now what the data shows you simply want to believe it because it makes you comfortable .With power they had it could be maximum of 60 miles signal , hardly compareable to 250 000 miles
The Giant Dish Antennas were also used to AMPLIFY the Signal coming from the Moon.
 
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We talk about real life phone call in 69 to the moon , how do you even not lose the signal with both moon and earth rotating and moving , the antena was never rotated itself .
If you have the hardware, it, as they say, ain't no thang. The same side of the moon is always facing us, so it's a bit easier to hit a given spot. Doing Earth-Moon-Earth is a different game since you're just wanting to hit the moon, and manage to get that tight beam back to earth where someone else will hear it. That means you call CQ (any station) a lot. But yeah, a phone mode conversation between the earth and the moon would have been no big deal even in '69, especially with the hardware NASA had at their disposal. Video would have been tougher, and in fact I don't think they did any real time video. Could be wrong about that, though.
 
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Problem is not with the antena but with the rotation of earth to point the antena towards the receiver and on top of that the power to send strong enought signal over 250 000miles
You could only connect during "windows" for the various ground stations.
 
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T.With power they had it could be maximum of 60 miles signal
Not true at all. I had a nice QSO with a guy in the Marshall Islands one evening using a 10 meter hand-held, 5 watts at I think. A friend of mine was a low-power freak, had a CW rig he could put in a Altoids can, 3 watts max, and when the HF bands were open he could talk around he world, and had a wall full of ARRL certificates to prove it. All depends on propagation, location, and what kind of antenna you can lash up.
 
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Even if you had one mile wide antena you have no power for it .
Dude, you're making this up as you go, and it shows. You don't know anything about radio, that much is obvious.
 
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Several members of this forum have relied on the Book of Enoch as a source of truth regarding the word "Nephilim".

The book is included by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

Some have also insisted that the earth is really flat, based on what is written in the Book of Enoch.
Most of us who have an interest in astronomy would totally reject the "Flat Earth" concept as ridiculous, based on our modern understanding of the universe.

Please include comments here for or against using this book in our discussion of Eschatology.

Is there any evidence of this book before the 2nd century BC?


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Per the question(s) posed , I believe the book of enoch useful but not necessary for faith in Jesus Christ , love of God and love of neighbor . To prove or validate flat earth thinking , no ....there are over 11,000 christian denominations using a variety of scriptures ( mostly the same scriptures ) in order to divide themselves into warring factions , void of love but ready for debate . I think of the scripture " Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth . " Flat Earthers would say that a flat earth is the truth and we have been deceived . I would pose that when the elements are destroyed by fire and the heavens themselves are rolled up like a scroll , ( as believed by all early christians and jews ) , to what benefit is a flat earth or round earth ? Is Christ more of a Christ to a round earth or flat earth ... Beware of debate which leads to more and more ungodliness . We must all be pleased that someone at some point in time brought this flat earth business out so that we can all be distracted from prayer and have another reason for division , strife and debate . ( I used to be in internet advertising ...every video for or against flat earth will get page views for the publisher and they will be rewarded monetarily or they will have their ego boosted . ) If your faith is in a flat earth , I would have you learn instead of the Son of God , Jesus Christ . It is by Him we are saved . God gives grace to the humble but opposes the proud ....
I no longer watch movies nor read secular works of fiction but I am reminded of section of the hobbit where the trolls are lured into a disagreement over how to cook a hobbit ..they fought and argued until the sun came up ( or the earth turned on its axis until it appeared to rise ) and they were turned to stone . When Christ returns suddenly , what will Satan have you arguing about ? That is the subtleties of our enemy . Read Romans 16:17 ... If any man cause divisions ..etc. I sincerely believe this debate has nothing to do with the gospel of Jesus Christ but is about page views to some people who may have deceived you and may have caught us unawares . To others it is about " being right . "
 
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Wouldn't "I don't know" have been easier to type?

No, and it wouldn't have been accurate either. The point of it is this, there are answers out there for people who really want to know. I won't hold anyone's hand on this particular topic. I don't care how much some may whine about it.
 
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