Masturbation as a Sin (A Different Approach)

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You bring up some very good and valid points.

But the one thing you do NOT address is the hormonal urge for release/[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Yes there may be all kinds of physical, mental, emotional and perhaps spiritual issues connected with this; but at its core, that urge is primarily hormonal.

And God Himself designed that hormonal makeup.

I also have the hormonal makeup to be aggressive and desire to kill. Are you saying because it’s hormonal, that expressing it is ok? That it’s not subject to be examined?

God called us to be born again, we are no longer ruled by this flesh and hormones, our spirit man goes beyond that.
 
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Just so we're clear I'll state my position. My position is that the Bible doesn't definitively state one way or the other that masturbation is a sin. However, if someone is personally convicted about it, stick to your own convictions.

I do have a different take on this topic though that isn't often considered. Many seem to presuppose a very specific and narrow definition of masturbation and / or, it's situational context. They typically imagine single men or women in this situation.

What bothers me is that this is a very narrow view of the topic.

For example, is it a sin to touch:
  • When thinking about your spouse?
  • To mutually touch with your spouse?
  • When thinking about your spouse who may have long passed away, or left you?
  • To look at images of your spouse, or a video that you may have made together with your spouse? (this technically meets the criteria of being inappropriate contentography by it's current definition)
What do you think CF, what is your opinion? :)

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Tetra

Frequent [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] over long periods of time can have lots of lasting heath benefits. It is medically proven too. Not to say that I am in anyway encourage such lustful sin. But whatever your marital status and position in this way, that above stands true.

And sometimes you can just have a good laugh about such subject matter.
If in the context of good taste.
 
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I think the story of olden has been taking out of place. His sin was not spanking the moment nkey, it was him disobedience to God. Which God was commmand him to marry his sister in law and have a child in his brother name. He did not want to do that. So God wack him so to speak. So story is not about rubbing one out, but not listening to God. Men have wet dream and men who spank the monkey do not. It seem like mess to me. However in marriage and sexual relationship. You deny your spouse unless they are a part of it.
 
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So does that include the OP's point #2 - a married couple doing the big M together? Or one spouse holding and caressing the other while they take care of business?
Masturbation is a man's most private legitimate pleasure and when my wife assists me it is a beautiful experience that shares at a very deep level. I am letting her into a very intimate part of my life. It also helps liberate us from the unbiblical teaching that masturbation is wrong.
 
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Masturbation is a man's most private legitimate pleasure and when my wife assists me it is a beautiful experience that shares at a very deep level. I am letting her into a very intimate part of my life. It also helps liberate us from the unbiblical teaching that masturbation is wrong.

lol, huh? Wouldn't that be a handjob?
 
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Slightly out of topic, but what do you guys think about a cartoon inappropriate contentography, aka hentai? Since the essence of the sin in watching regular inappropriate contentography is lusting after other people, where exactly it is when masturbating over a non-existing fictional charactersl, which basically is nothing but set of 0's and 1's?
 
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There's a difference between "lusting" over something for the benefit of others other than just trying to satisfy oneself.
lust merriam-webster - : strong desire; especially : sexual desire
Thankfully, God did not allow the Bible to be originally written in English.
 
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also have the hormonal makeup to be aggressive and desire to kill. Are you saying because it’s hormonal, that expressing it is ok?
Your hormones may tend you to be aggressive. Testosterone will do that. But murder? That is NOT from God nor in the original creation of man. Murder entered after sin did. It is one of the fallen nature’s ways of expressing aggression.

Yes, your aggression should be expressed, but in a godly way.
 
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Slightly out of topic, but what do you guys think about a cartoon inappropriate contentography, aka hentai? Since the essence of the sin in watching regular inappropriate contentography is lusting after other people, where exactly it is when masturbating over a non-existing fictional characters, which basically is nothing but set of 0's and 1's?
Obviously this is outside the scope of Scripture and would be similar to reading erotic stories. I think one should pray about it and ask themselves hard questions as to why they are looking at this type of content.
 
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God made us. He knows our needs.

Everything should be done as a couple (man and woman).
It is not good for a man (or a woman) to be alone. Not everyone is in a couple.
 
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It is not good for a man (or a woman) to be alone. Not everyone is in a couple.
What does being alone have to do with masturbation? God gave Adam a "help meet" to take away his loneliness. What does that mean?
 
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Your hormones may tend you to be aggressive. Testosterone will do that. But murder? That is NOT from God nor in the original creation of man. Murder entered after sin did. It is one of the fallen nature’s ways of expressing aggression.

Yes, your aggression should be expressed, but in a godly way.

So going back to masturbation, how is expressing that godly?
 
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Technically speaking, handjobs are masturbation. (Latin manus + sturbo; disturbed by hand)

So the woman is probably guilt-free then in that case, because its still the man that would be masturbating, based on your logic...
 
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