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All of the Pagan gods were made of wood and stone.
Gods of wood and stone


Deuteronomy 4:28
There you will worship man-made gods of wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or eat or smell.
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Deuteronomy 28:36
The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone.
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Deuteronomy 28:64
Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known.
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Deuteronomy 29:17
You saw among them their detestable images and idols of wood and stone, of silver and gold.
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2 Kings 19:18
They have thrown their gods into the fire and destroyed them, for they were not gods but only wood and stone, fashioned by human hands.
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Isaiah 37:19
They have thrown their gods into the fire and destroyed them, for they were not gods but only wood and stone, fashioned by human hands.
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Ezekiel 20:32
“‘You say, “We want to be like the nations, like the peoples of the world, who serve wood and stone.” But what you have in mind will never happen.
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Daniel 5:4
As they drank the wine, they praised the gods of gold and silver, of bronze, iron, wood and stone.
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Daniel 5:23
Instead, you have set yourself up against the Lord of heaven. You had the goblets from his temple brought to you, and you and your nobles, your wives and your concubines drank wine from them. You praised the gods of silver and gold, of bronze, iron, wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or understand. But you did not honor the God who holds in his hand your life and all your ways.
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Acts 19:26 And you see and hear how this fellow Paul has convinced and led astray large numbers of people here in Ephesus and in practically the whole province of Asia. He says that gods made by human hands are no gods at all.
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Alright, you clearly won the arguement. No need to rub it in on others faces. No one like an arrogant winner. One verse would have been more humble and would have sufficed.
 
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I'm pagan (well on paper somewhere I might still be Roman Catholic) but my understanding of gods is somewhere between Deism and Pantheism. I do not believe in literal, personal gods and they appear to me as very human creations. I've had phases of Atheism throughout my life and at the end of the day will probably always be Agnostic.

That's the horribly simple overview. :)

So what do you believe your gods are? Aspects of a supreme deity along the lines of Hinduism? Or like focal points for a bundle of ideas/attributes?
 
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So what do you believe your gods are? Aspects of a supreme deity along the lines of Hinduism? Or like focal points for a bundle of ideas/attributes?

In earlier years of paganism I believed the former, now I believe more of the later. If I go the Pantheist route then, that definition also may apply. I think for the sake of discussion, the most relevant thing that I believe about gods and goddesses is that their image and creation is a result of human imagination and that if the divine exists, its whole self is beyond human comprehension.

As of lately I am more Agnostic than Pagan, though Paganism very openly allows Atheism on the matter of deity so its not a label I plan on discarding anytime soon.
 
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Exodus 20:3. "You shall have no other gods (Elohiyms) before me.

Deuteronomy 4:35. You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym); besides Him there is no other.

Deuteronomy 4:39. Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym) in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.

Deuteronomy 5:7. "You shall have no other gods (Elohiyms) before me.

Deuteronomy 6:4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord (Yahwah) our God (Elohiym), the LORD (Yahwah) is one (only.)

1 Kings 8:60. So that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD (Yahwah) is God (Elohiym) and that there is no other.

Isaiah 43:10. "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD (Yahwah), "and my servant (Yahshua) whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god (el) was formed, nor will there be one after me.

Isaiah 44:8. Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God (Eloah=Gods above) besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one."

Isaiah 45:5. I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other; apart from me there is no God (Elohiym).

6. so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other.

Isaiah 45:14. This is what the LORD (Yahwah) says: "The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush, and those tall Sabeans— they will come over to you and will be yours; they will trudge behind you, coming over to you in chains. They will bow down before you and plead with you, saying, 'Surely God (El) is with you, and there is no other; there is no other god (Elohiym).' "

Isaiah 45:18. For this is what the LORD (Yahwah) says: He who created the heavens, He is God (Elohiym); He who fashioned and made the earth, He founded it; He did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited: He says: "I am the LORD (Yahwah), and there is no other.

Isaiah 45:22. "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God (El), and there is no other.

Isaiah 46:9. Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God (El), and there is no other; I am God (Elohiym), and there is none like me.

Joel 2:27. Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am the LORD (Yahwah) your God (Elohiym), and that there is no other; never again will my people be shamed.
I like these verses. They'll come in handy the next time I encounter a
monotheist (usually Christian) insisting that people are worshiping "other gods".
 
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In earlier years of paganism I believed the former, now I believe more of the later. If I go the Pantheist route then, that definition also may apply. I think for the sake of discussion, the most relevant thing that I believe about gods and goddesses is that their image and creation is a result of human imagination and that if the divine exists, its whole self is beyond human comprehension.

As of lately I am more Agnostic than Pagan, though Paganism very openly allows Atheism on the matter of deity so its not a label I plan on discarding anytime soon.

What do you think happens to you when you die? Do you think you become a spirit? Do you think you cross over into new realms? do you think you dissolve as an entity? Or do you think something else?
 
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None of those are "Gods". They are symbols just as the Christian Cross is a symbol.

I repeat, I know of no Pagan God's made of wood or stone. It's weird to even go down that street.
While you were out to lunch the people of the world worshiped their idols and statues as gods.
 
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What do you think happens to you when you die? Do you think you become a spirit? Do you think you cross over into new realms? do you think you dissolve as an entity? Or do you think something else?

In the past I believed in an afterlife akin to the Summerlands concept found in neopaganism but upon further examining my beliefs I've moved away from a belief in a concrete afterlife. I believe that we dissolve as an entity (physical death) and in a Panpsychic way, carry on a small imprint of our consciousness in tbe physical world. Panpsychism encompasses my belief on this matter, so looking into that might give a bit better descriptor. Wikipedia covers the basics. I'd link more but I'm on my phone at work. :D
 
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In the past I believed in an afterlife akin to the Summerlands concept found in neopaganism but upon further examining my beliefs I've moved away from a belief in a concrete afterlife. I believe that we dissolve as an entity (physical death) and in a Panpsychic way, carry on a small imprint of our consciousness in tbe physical world. Panpsychism encompasses my belief on this matter, so looking into that might give a bit better descriptor. Wikipedia covers the basics. I'd link more but I'm on my phone at work. :D

"tbe physical world." What does this mean?

Ok, so i read about some of these terms. So does that mean you believe we are a soul within a soul? What is your take on the physical world vs spiritual?
 
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