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What do you understand the purpose of Apostolic doctrine to be?
i honestly don't mean this to be a smart aleck reply but the only doctrine i am concerned with are the teachings of JESUS about how i am to conduct my life toward others... Seeking HIM to grow in CHRIST LIKE LOVE.
 
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Is God so impotent that He cannot keep men from corrupting His word? How do we know that what you think "came from men's intellect" and is not God's word? Are we supposed to take your word for it? Sorry I'm not drinking that koolaid.
If your heart does not care about people as directed by JESUS then your interpretations are of your intellect alone. IF your heart is guided by the GODLY LOVE FOR people and you have understood you need to seek HIM for HIS LOVE then HE is guiding you.... but if you want to get to heaven on what you know about the BIBLE apart from HIS HOLY LOVE being real in your life... then that's your coolaid... not mine. Romans chapter eight verse nine.... Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 
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<JKT>If your heart does not care about people as directed by JESUS then your interpretations are of your intellect alone. IF your heart is guided by the GODLY LOVE FOR people and you have understood you need to seek HIM for HIS LOVE then HE is guiding you.... but if you want to get to heaven on what you know about the BIBLE apart from HIS HOLY LOVE being real in your life... then that's your coolaid... not mine. Romans chapter eight verse nine.... Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.<end>
Here is my post again. Where do you get anything about how my heart is directed, interpretations of my intellect alone etc?
Is God so impotent that He cannot keep men from corrupting His word? How do we know that what you think "came from men's intellect" and is not God's word? Are we supposed to take your word for it? Sorry I'm not drinking that koolaid.
Sounds like someone is on a tirade and didn't even read my post.
 
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<JKT>If your heart does not care about people as directed by JESUS then your interpretations are of your intellect alone. IF your heart is guided by the GODLY LOVE FOR people and you have understood you need to seek HIM for HIS LOVE then HE is guiding you.... but if you want to get to heaven on what you know about the BIBLE apart from HIS HOLY LOVE being real in your life... then that's your coolaid... not mine. Romans chapter eight verse nine.... Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.<end>
Here is my post again. Where do you get anything about how my heart is directed, interpretations of my intellect alone etc?

Is God so impotent that He cannot keep men from corrupting His word? How do we know that what you think "came from men's intellect" and is not God's word? Are we supposed to take your word for it? Sorry I'm not drinking that koolaid.
Sounds like someone is on a tirade and didn't even read my post.
 
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i think maybe it's useless to type anything to you. i had done nothing except promote the doctrine of JESUS that leads us to LOVE people and it was you who refused the koolaid as you put it. If i said anything other than HE will teach those of us who are humble before HIM please copy and paste the so called bad coolaid so i can correct myself.... And as for your heart brother i made no judgement at all toward you... it was you who didn't read my post well.. it says plainly " IF you don't care about people," .... and i will stick by that for anybody... if we are not using our BIBLE to be in process of being conformed into the heart attitude of JESUS then we are using it wrongly..... but hey... children sit in the marketplace of ideas and yak about all kinds of theologies that have absolutely NOTHING to do with us being CHRIST LIKE....
 
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i honestly don't mean this to be a smart aleck reply but the only doctrine i am concerned with are the teachings of JESUS about how i am to conduct my life toward others... Seeking HIM to grow in CHRIST LIKE LOVE.
The Apostles taught by the authority of Jesus. They were sent by Jesus to make disciples. Jesus also raises up pastors and teachers "for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ"
This is the purpose of apostolic doctrine.
 
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<JKT>i think maybe it's useless to type anything to you. i had done nothing except promote the doctrine of JESUS that leads us to LOVE people and it was you who refused the koolaid as you put it. If i said anything other than HE will teach those of us who are humble before HIM please copy and paste the so called bad coolaid so i can correct myself.... And as for your heart brother i made no judgement at all toward you... it was you who didn't read my post well.. it says plainly " IF you don't care about people," .... and i will stick by that for anybody... if we are not using our BIBLE to be in process of being conformed into the heart attitude of JESUS then we are using it wrongly..... but hey... children sit in the marketplace of ideas and yak about all kinds of theologies that have absolutely NOTHING to do with us being CHRIST LIKE....<end>
I will gladly show you what I took offense at.
JKT "If your heart does not care about people as directed by JESUS then your interpretations are of your intellect alone."
Implies that my heart does not care about people and that my interpretations are of my intellect alone.
JKT "IF your heart is guided by the GODLY LOVE FOR people and you have understood you need to seek HIM for HIS LOVE then HE is guiding you...."
Standing alone might imply my heart is guided by the Godly love for people but rest of the sentence implies that I want to get to heaven on what I know about the Bible apart from His holy love.
JKT "but if you want to get to heaven on what you know about the BIBLE apart from HIS HOLY LOVE being real in your life... then that's your coolaid... not mine."
JKT "Romans chapter eight verse nine.... Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
Then this scripture implies that I have not the spirit of Christ. And the current post contains some of the same kind of implications. Here is what I suggest address the issues NOT me or any other personally.
 
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GOD had a tree in the garden that was forbidden because it's fruit was seen as being good for making one wise to be like GOD.
ah, no.. that was the lie Satan told eve:
4 But the snake said to the woman, “You will not die. 5 God knows that if you eat the fruit from that tree you will learn about good and evil, and then you will be like God!”

God said they ow know the difference between good and evil like we do verse 22. they said nothing about 'make them wise.' it made them now responsible for their sin.

And today many theological ideas derived from the BIBLE have no value to the KINGDOM OF HOLY LOVE, but rather only serve to puff up the knowledge of the denominational member.
where is the love here? in this message.. the exclusionary message that only serves your teaching, with no way of redeeming ourselves if we do not already believe what you do?
It not wrong to point out a wrong. what make point out a wrong malicious is not offering any way out.. no form of redemption.

( Yes Folks GOD has placed stumbling blocks within HIS WORD )
ah, no.. God words are a stumbling block to the self righteous. God did not place stumbling block in his words. the words them selves confuse those who think they know God without the Holy SPirit to guide them.
for instance here are 12 verses where the bible speaks negitivly about putting stumbling blocks in front of others or commands us not to be stumbling blocks... https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Stumbling-Blocks yet you claim God took it upon himself to be the biggest stumbling block of them all?
If what you say is true then why would God in the old and new testament order us not to be what you claim him to be?
and when our Spiritual Eye is focused on JESUS and living out what HE says for us to live, then our whole body is filled with the Pearl of Great Price which is CHRIST LOVE growing in our hearts.
Sorry Mr. Joey Smith.
That is not what the bible teaches.
14 The true children of God are those who let God’s Spirit lead them.15 The Spirit that we received is not a spirit that makes us slaves again and causes us to fear. The Spirit that we have makes us God’s chosen children. And with that Spirit we cry out, “ Abba, Father.” 16 And the Spirit himself speaks to our spirits and makes us sure that we are God’s children. 17 If we are God’s children, we will get the blessings God has for his people. He will give us all that he has given Christ. But we must suffer like Christ suffered. Then we will be able to share his glory.

No pearl leading us..
According to the bible the Holy Spirit is what fills us and directs us.

It is by this LOVE that BIBLICAL understanding is revealed. The LOVE is GOD and GOD is the teacher.
do you have book chapter and verse for that one?

GOD has placed many things in HIS WORD that people have far greater passion about than they do for showing HIS LOVE real to the people HE puts in front of us everyday.
like what?

People mistakenly think their knowledge of the BIBLE is going to somehow make them an approved workman when they never were humble to GOD to allow HIM to form them. (or) when they did ask GOD for guidance and to be molded by HIM they never BELIEVED the things JESUS tells us.

Do not fear him who can kill the body but fear HIM who can cast both soul and body into Hell... yes.. FEAR HIM.
:) I always find it striking that hose who have never really been humbled or suffered for God often are the first to point out the ease others take with God. How about not assuming if someone is or is not humble enough.. how would you possible ever know? one man's humility could be another man's pride! What ever happened to we are different members of the same body? would not a foot worship God differently than a hand? or would not an ear get more out of a song service than a eye? why not let God's children worship God with all of their heart's mind spirit and strength? novel idea, but because we are all a little different would that means we would need literally thousands if not tens of thousands of different churches/ denominations to service a world of billions?

Or do you think Jesus crames all of us in and under one religion like judaism? if so then why didn't he leave a book of the law as he did with the Jews? Rather He told us all the law boils down to two commandments.. love the lord God with all of your being and your neighbor as yourself. These are our commands. If we set out to love God with all of our being then we will have to worship differently as not all are feet or hands or hearts.
 
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i honestly don't mean this to be a smart aleck reply but the only doctrine i am concerned with are the teachings of JESUS about how i am to conduct my life toward others... Seeking HIM to grow in CHRIST LIKE LOVE.
For someone who claims to be anti-denominational you sure are working hard to get your own following. Isn't that the same as the denominations you claim to be against?
 
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