"Behold, Jehovah is one Jehovah"... What does this mean...?

Where it says, Behold, Jehovah (YHWH) is one Jehovah (YHWH)... What does this mean...?

Since it appears that there are many Jehovah's, where there is actually only one, even though it appears to be many, because all other Jehovah's, (or god's) (or angels) do not have their own will, and never ever act independently of what the "head" of that body, (I guess you could say), (the Father) dictates, or decree's or causes to make to move, or motivates to move or act, or make happen, ect...

The Holy Angels are Jehovah's or Jehovah, but and they do not even have their own will, being only extensions of the head (of) Jehovah, that does all their thinking for them, and has dictated all their thoughts and actions and/or in-actions (decisions/choices) from the very beginning... They are parts of the, or that one body, that is the one Jehovah... And they are all "one" with Jehovah God and one with each other, or one another... In that they always, "always" act in complete unison and perfect harmony, and never independently from one another or from the head, ever, for that may not even be possible...

That's the Holy Angels... But, what about the fallen ones...? Can they act independently of, or from, or outside of the head...? Or not...? Or is that impossible, since God made them all, and fully knew them all from the very moment of making them... Including all their choices, actions, in-actions, ect, everything that would happen with them, all of that, and made them all the way they were/are, and nothing can happen outside of that design... Is it possible for something to happen outside of that (design) (or will), or not...?

God knew all, or the head knows all, from the moment of the body being formed or made, and he made it to be a certain way, and it is, (or is it), completely impossible to ever operate outside of that Jehovah's design...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

Can we do things that are outside the universal Father God's will...?

Say, I wanted to prove I could, by doing something very horrible on purpose, just to prove and show that I could, and had this kind of stubborn form of disobedient, extremely rebellious nature in me...

Anyway, say I did it, or that (whatever that may be)... How do I know, that upon hearing this news or being exposed to this news, about not being to do anything outside of God's will, then deciding to do what I did to prove it... How do I know God didn't already know all that, when I was exposed to the or this news, then choosing what I did, just to try and prove something about the will of God, ect...

Anyway, how do I know God didn't already know all that (about me) all of what I would do and choose, all that..?. And, beyond that, that he made me to be that way long, long ago...? For some kind of (ultimately good) purpose of his, involving me and the way I am, was, or chose to be, (or how he made me to be) and worked around it that long, long ago, knowing all of it/that about me from long, long ago... And he say, worked it all out, so that some kind of, if only even small good, would come out it (more than likely for somebody else) in the end... How do I know or not know that...?

God Bless!

Neogaia777 said:

Can we do things that are outside the universal Father God's will...?

Say, I wanted to prove I could, by doing something very horrible on purpose, just to prove and show that I could, and had this kind of stubborn form of disobedient, extremely rebellious nature in me...

Anyway, say I did it, or that (whatever that may be)... How do I know, that upon hearing this news or being exposed to this news, about not being to do anything outside of God's will, then deciding to do what I did to prove it... How do I know God didn't already know all that, when I was exposed to the or this news, then choosing what I did, just to try and prove something about the will of God, ect...

Anyway, how do I know God didn't already know all that (about me) all of what I would do and choose, all that..?. And, beyond that, that he made me to be that way long, long ago...? For some kind of (ultimately good) purpose of his, involving me and the way I am, was, or chose to be, (or how he made me to be) and worked around it that long, long ago, knowing all of it/that about me from long, long ago... And he say, worked it all out, so that some kind of, if only even small good, would come out it (more than likely for somebody else) in the end... How do I know or not know that...?

God Bless!

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What if, upon revelation of this knowledge, I was so stubborn, so rebellious, that I was to get in God's face, so to speak, and say, OK God, let's see you work this into your will, and then do something very horrible, and continue to do that...?

There is one like this, and some like this that follow him as well, of him I will not speak of... And they make it very difficult for the rest of us to see how "all is in God's will", and plan is all going according to the way he designed and made it all from the very beginning, but, I believe it is... for he makes the ultimate good come out of all of all of it always, in the end, and makes it all "worth it" in the end also...

After all, who has withstood God's will successfully...? Anyone been able to do it, ever...?

God Bless!

Dave-W said:

I am not sure what you are quoting.

And there is only one "Jehovah," not many as you claim. That name is an english butchering of trying to pronounce the Hebrew letters Yud Hay Vav Hay, or YHVH. That is the personal name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Some angels may be called Elohim (high or exalted ones) but are NEVER called YHVH.

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Elohim means God, and is God's title, Jehovah is his (and their) name(s)... When you see Jehovah, not followed by anything else, it means the Father God, but when there is something after it, it is referring to an extension of him, or an angel, but also him (The Jehovah) also, since that/those angels never do anything of their own will, but only always his (God's)...

Angels (Holy Angels) are Jehovah's also, but they are not separate from "The Jehovah", ever...

God Bless!

spockrates said:

I believe he’s quoting Deuteronomy 6:4, perhaps from the American Standard Version:

https://biblehub.com/deuteronomy/6-4.htm

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Yes, I couldn't find it, thanks...

God Bless!

Dave-W said:

Not true. Some angels were referred to as elohim, as were most of the so-called pagan "gods" of the Canaanites. Look at the original Hebrew before making such claims. They cannot be supported there.

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I did and have... Elohim means "God" and is plural meaning more than one, it can also mean "a god" (little g) or angel...

Dave-W said:

Show me ONE scripture where an angel is called Yud Hay Vav Hay.

You can't because it does not exist.

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And I didn't say I could, not all by itself... but only when their is something added to it, that makes it more specific (and also more limited)... Then it actually referring to an angel, (but also YHWH) (cause they are one)...

I would just like the Holy Angels acknowledged, but I note that is also very, very important to not think of them as being "separate" beings from God, cause they are not at all, nor are they ever...

Oh, and, Acts 7:30 says it was an angel that appeared to Moses, but was called "Jehovah", and was taken for Jehovah (cause he was/is, cause they (Holy Angels) are Jehovah, cause they are one with him)...

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Dave-W said:

but that still is not showing me where an angel is called Yud Hay Vav Hay.

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Acts 7:30

Dave-W said:

There are several "theophanies" or "Christophanies" that occurred in the OT. While those were thought to be angels, (the "angel" that wrestled with Jacob, the third "angel" that stayed behind to bargain with Abraham over the fate of Sodom, the "captain of the Lord's Hosts" that appeared to Joshua) those were actually GOD in bodily form. (not angels as such)

Again, that was God Himself, not just an angel.

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Again, they are not separate beings but they are all "one"...

So, you are right in that it is never "just and angel" only (Holy Angels anyway) Cause God is with them and they with him, and they are always in and with each other...

God Bless!