“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.” Jer 23:5 (KJV unless otherwise stated)
Jeremiah predicts the first coming of Christ and the Jews accepting Him. That did not happen.
1. 490 years of Jewish probation ended at the time of Christ (shortly after His ascension into heaven) - the same event predicted by that 490 year timeline of Daniel 9
2. As Paul confirms in 1 Thess 2
14 For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you also endured the same sufferings at the hands of your own countrymen, even as they
did from the Jews, 15 who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men, 16 hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved;
with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them to the utmost.
3. As Christ predicted in Matthew 23
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Fill up, then, the measure of the guilt of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?
34 “Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, 35 so that upon you may fall
the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
4. Thus we have switched from the "nation-church" model of evangelizing the whole World - to the "persecuted church" model of evangelizing the whole world.
Rom 2 "
He is not a Jew who is one outwardly... but he is a Jew who is one inwardly"
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Now it is the "second coming" that we look for and Christ wipes out the wicked at the second coming - and takes all the saints (including any saved-Jews that may exist at that time) to heaven.
In its explanation of Isa 11:4, the SDA bible commentary affirms Christ subdues his enemies and takes his kingdom at his return (the second coming), 1000 years before the phenomena of Rev 21:1-3. What it does not say is that Christ rules on Earth at the second coming.
Rather Christ "rules with a rod of iron" Rev 19 - at the second coming described in Rev 19. Ruling with a rod of Iron is always the term for no-mercy... only justice. And that is what the wicked get at the 2nd coming.. are dead during the millennium and then at the great white throne judgment which gets to them into the lake of fire... see Rev 20.
This is not sola-scriptura but private interpretation, which both dispensationalism as well as Covenantalism, replacement theology, also hold more or less.
Not true in real life. In real life I quote the Bible and showing that it makes the case.
Bible details matter.
As I stated previously, two advents were prophesied and the historicist-Adventist, Frank W. Hardy, affirms this in his thesis, concerning Dan 11, cited below:
“From a chiastic point of view the chapter directs attention to Christ's death on the cross at His first coming in vs. 22. From a linear point of view the same material shows some of the challenges to be faced by those who would base their faith on that event and the action He would finally take to rescue them at His second coming in 12:1.25 Thus, Dan 11 indicates that on two separate occasions Christ would personally invade human history.
That is a bait-and-switch.
I never argue that the OT does not speak of the 2nd coming or events after the millennium. Certainly Isaiah 66:23 takes us all the way to the "New Heavens and New Earth"
But it is your quote from Jeremiah 23 that I addressed in my response. Not Daniel 11 or Daniel 12.
Details matter even in a discussion such as this.
This detail in now way is an argument against historicism.
The point being, which Ryan and Hardy miss as Adventists, is that the spring festivals represent Christ’s death
As all Adventist scholars point out - the events connected with the first coming of Christ are in the spring festivals... and those connected with the second coming of Christ are in the fall.
Being destined to reject Christ must be distorted
There is no "destined to reject Christ" in the actual Bible.
hint: Ninevah was not 'destined to be destroyed in 40 days'.
Wisdom reveals God does not have his prophets disagree with each other;
How unexpected to find that we agree on something.
Jeremiah cannot prophecy that the Jews were to accept Christ
In fact there are many OT predictions/prophecies about the success that would be theirs if they were to follow God in obedience.
Moses outlined that path for them.
Jeremiah refutes the very speculation that you offer.
Jer 18
5 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying,
6 O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the Lord. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.
7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
9 And
at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
10 If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then
I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
While your foray into creative writing and speculation is somewhat interesting - I prefer the doctrine that is found in the actual Bible itself.
You have Jeremiah say one thing and Daniel say another.
Not true in real life.
In real life Israel is given 490 years to choose yea or nay when it comes to accepting God as their King and the mission of the Messiah.
In the end they choose against God's Plan. Isaiah 5:4 God asks "
what more could I have done that I have not done?"
Matthew 23 "
How I WANTED to spare your children.. but you would not"
"
He came to His OWN and His OWN received Him not" John 1:11
Your calvinism is beginning to show in your rejection of these Bible truths.
This is the bane of Adventism.
Just not in real life.
