THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY!

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When it comes to God's Law, yes it does.

But you pick and choose which of God’s laws you want to keep. You haven’t written a Torah scroll and you don’t sacrifice a goat for Passover. You constantly keep disregarding this truth. You want to ignore it because you don’t have an answer.

“How can you think of saying, ‘Friend, let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:42‬
 
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God is love (1 John 4:8,16). Jesus is God (John 1:1; Hebrews 1:3,8-12).

Jesus is the living demonstration of Love to God and man (1 Peter 2:21). Jesus loved unto death, and sinned not (Philippians 2:8; Hebrews 4:15).

Jesus keeps the commandments of God (John 15:10).

Therefore, Jesus is the standard of love. Here is what Jesus did in love:

Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
Luke 4:15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luke 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

We are to love and walk just as Jesus walked:

1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

There are many today which say they love like Jesus loved, and do not do the things Jesus did, such as keep the seventh day the Sabbath of the Lord Holy. They have altered the definitions of love, sin, law, friends and many other things.
 
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Simply that circumcision of hearts leads to keeping all of God's commandments, not teaching to transgress them, which means the "flesh" is still in control and not yet fully "cut off":

Galatians 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Galatians 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Exact parallel language.

Pick and choose.

Which Lord? The Lord of the seventh day the sabbath, or the Lord of your own making?

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Is the Law of God True? Is the Law of God Pure?

Do you believe you can keep God's commandment, the 4th Commandment as is specifically given in Exodus 20:8-11:

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

If not, what strength was given to you? What were you saved from? What deliverer do you have? and if you obey not the commandment of God, who is your Lord?
You totally misinterpreted that scripture that you used to accuse me. You basically compared me to a person who wants to circumcise the male members of a Church. This is not so.
 
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But you pick and choose which of God’s laws you want to keep. ...‬
No. I have told you several times now (but your fingers are still in your ears, and hands covering your eyes), that all of it is to be kept in obedience to God.

You are of your father, who likes to make baseless accusations.
 
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No. I have told you several times now (but your fingers are still in your ears, and hands covering your eyes), that all of it is to be kept in obedience to God.

You are of your father, who likes to make baseless accusations.

But you don’t keep them. God commanded the Passover sacrifice must be observed every year forever.
 
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But you don’t keep them. God commanded the Passover sacrifice must be observed every year forever.
I keep telling you (but your fingers are in your ears, and your hands upon your eyes), Anti-type, not type.

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Moses understood this (Exodus 25:8,40; Numbers 8:4; Hebrews 8:5).

Yet you refuse to obey God, and repent of the sin of sabbath-breaking. You reject the whole reason for the passover Lamb, and the Lord's goat (2 Corinthians 5:21). After the Passover (type); Exodus 12, what did they do in the wilderness in Exodus 16? They were to keep God's commandments.
 
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But you don’t keep them....
See, you keep accusing. When I keep telling you, yes I (we) do, by God's grace.

Yet, when you are confronted about God's holy day, the seventh day the sabbath of the Lord, you tell us you do not obey the specific commandment (Exodus 20:8-11).
 
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You totally misinterpreted that scripture that you used to accuse me. You basically compared me to a person who wants to circumcise the male members of a Church. This is not so.
I did no such thing. Go back and re-read. Slowly.
 
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I am not friends with the enemies. No thank you. Join with us, and then you are friends, as it is written:

John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

Do not redefine "friends".

No. If you were ignorant, then so, but you are not ignorant, and have much light shown, but you reject it as darkness.

Therein is the problem, you make the criteria each person, rather than the standard of His word, His Command.

When it comes to God's Law, yes it does.

I do not count those who are ignorant as enemies. I count those who are deliberate as such.

It is your definition, and I do not agree with your definition.

I told you the truth and you obstinantly refuse.

I am. I am telling you the truth.

This is not a Christ-like response. There is no light or truth here.
 
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This is not a Christ-like response. There is no light or truth here.
Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Matthew 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity [G458; ανομιας; anomias].

Matthew 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
 
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Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Matthew 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity [G458; ανομιας; anomias].

Matthew 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. - Matthew 7:1-5
 
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Show me the verse in scripture please just as you stated it. I'll wait.
The Lord says: Be on guard not to carry a load on the Sabbath day or conduct business at the gates of Jerusalem.
Jeremiah 17:21
If you take this as literally as the Jews do, you will not carry anything anywhere, unless it is needed for a specific Sabbath purpose.
 
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Apparently you are to make such a statement. Show me the verse in scripture, just as you stated it. I'll wait.
See, for that the Lord hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
 
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Keeping the law isn't enough to make you like Jesus. He himself said you have to not only not murder, but never hate, or even be angry at your brother. Not only not commit adultery but never lust. You have not kept these perfectly. No one has. And relying on the law to save you is foolish.
Romans .9: 30-33 It's the mistake that Israel made. The only way to be justified is through faith in Christ, not your works.
 
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You want me to prove from scripture that you do not understand the depth of scripture? You have already proved it throughout this entire discussion. God is not shallow and neither is his written word.

Do you not see a single problem with your belief that you are always 100% right with your view of scripture and that everyone who disagrees for *any* reason is always 100% wrong?

Well if that was true you would be able to prove what your saying with scripture and counter the OP and the scriptures provided in this OP. You have not provided a single scripture to do so except to say you reject God's WORD and to make up things never said here in this OP (I refer you to post # 242 linked).

Let me know when you have some scripture to share? For me only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.
 
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The apostles never commanded sabbath.

Why would they need to? The Sabbath and God's LAW had been obeyed and followed by God's people for more then 4000 years. Jesus and all the Apostles as our examples who kept and obeyed God's 4th Commandment Sabbath and taught the true meaning of God's Sabbath and obedience to God's LAW through FAITH all through the NEW TESTAMENT.

SCRIPTURE SUPPORT HERE CLICK ME.

There is a lot of scripture in the linked post above that disagrees with you.

Hope this helps.
 
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I disagree with your interpretations of those scriptures.

If you disagree with someones interpretation of scripture, simply saying you disagree without providing any scripture or why you disagree is only putting your words over God's WORD and saying you disagree with God's WORD. Do you know why you disagree and can you prove why you disagree from scripture?
 
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OT/OC Sabbath was a shadow. I have no problem with that.

All the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT were all a part of UNFINISHED WORK (prophecies) which all pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation (Deuteronomy 31:9; 24-26; Exodus 24:3-4; 7; Colossians 2:14-17; Deuteronomy 29:21)

Where as God's LAW (10 Commandments) are the ETERNAL LAWS of GOD spoken by GOD and written by GOD'S own finger on two tables of stone. God's SABBATH is the 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments written on stone that give us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is if broken (Romans 3:20; 7:7; James 2:11; 1 John 3:4; Exodus 20:8-11)

Some questions for your consideration...

How can God's 4th Commandment be a SHADOW law...

1. If it is not a part of God's plan of salvation and it was created as part of the FINISHED WORK of CREATION BEFORE SIN entered the World, when mankind was in perfect harmony with God and because there was no sin there was no plan of salvation (Genesis 2:1-3)?

2. God says the Sabbath is an EVERLASTING COVENANT (Exodus 31:16) ?

3 It was Spoken by God and written by God's own finger as part of the 10 Commandments on Stone?

4. The 10 Commandments give us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is?

5. The 10 Commandments are the standard in the Judgment (James 2:8-12; Romans 2:12-13)

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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But you don’t keep them. God commanded the Passover sacrifice must be observed every year forever.

You mix up the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT. The Passover pointed to Jesus as the lamb of God (JOHN 1:29). Christ is our passover. The Passover was a SHADOW FEAST that pointed to Jesus as our lamb of God.

1 CORINTHIANS 5:7-8 [7], Purge out therefore the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, as you are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: [8], Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Hope this helps.
 
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