True, but neither does it exclude the possibility of infants in the household. All we can say is that the practice of infant baptism goes back way back in the history of the Christian Church.
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Can you be saved without a priest?
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Of course all you have to do is repent, be baptized, and get the Holy Ghost. Why would a priest be needed?
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I'm not aware of any expression of Christian faith which suggests that a member of the clergy is necessary for a person to receive salvation. So this is kind of a strange question to ask, as not even Catholicism teaches this.
Further, we can read about the conversion of the Ethiopian eunuch in the 8th chapter of the Acts, St. Philip the Deacon preaches the Gospel, the eunuch receives Holy Baptism. That's a pretty clear example that a presbyter is not necessary to receive salvation.
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This is a strongly Catholic sentiment - that humans have the power to save, specifically priests or alleged "holy men." The Word of God gave the disciples the Holy Spirit directly (part of pentecost); He gave His spirit to His disciples, and sent them out as the firstfruits of holy spirit filled persons.
He did not literally breathe on us yet; this was a "call back" to when the Most High God breathed into Adam and made him a living spirit. And, the disciples still don't save the soul. They plant the seed, and nurture it until the Most High makes a decision on whether or not to feed and cultivate the seed so that it may grown and produce fruit in its due season.
Of course: a ministry of coalescence and reconciliation. The Most High God did not give us a spirit to save SOULS from death. Technology can reanimate someone; can it save the soul?
And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them,
Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.
And they laid hands on them, and put them in hold unto the next day: for it was now eventide.
Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.
And it came to pass on the morrow, that their rulers, and elders, and scribes,
And Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem.
And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?
Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,
If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:1-12
Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.
And they laid hands on them, and put them in hold unto the next day: for it was now eventide.
Howbeit many of them which heard the word believed; and the number of the men was about five thousand.
And it came to pass on the morrow, that their rulers, and elders, and scribes,
And Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem.
And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?
Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,
If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:1-12
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Infants don't have any personal sins to repent of but they still need baptism to remove original sin! And enter the kingdom, Jn 3:5 requires baptism!
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Let us not forget the doctrines of baptism by desire and/or baptism by blood, both of which would have applied to the thief on the cross. However, I do not believe that every Early Church Fathers held to these doctrines.
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No he wasn't baptised, but there is great deal of false expectation by those who think you can be saved without any works ,using this thief, as an example of no works .
Just because he was on a cross as a thief does not even mean he had done much wrong , as stealing a loaf of bread could have put him there or rebellion against the Roman authorities .
Also he probably had done good works in a number of ways ,including knowing enough about the promised Messiah, to be hoping for His Coming . In other words he was already a 'good man', who ended up on a cross like Jesus .
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It's funny how you choose One quote from a man who never met Jesus ,to justify your false position ,while ignoring not only Jesus ,James ,and others ,but Paul too .
If you are not moved to do something good for some less fortunate than yourself when you have the opportunity , then your heart is not 'saved ', and that is all
that matters . Do you FEEL compassion for others, instead of always thinking of yourself and whether you are going to be going 'saved' ,as this is a very selfish position ,and is what makes me realise is not of Christ ?
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1 Peter 3:21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
Key part of the verse, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, not the act of sprinkling of water (especially on a baby that has no concept of salvation).
Acts 2:38-39 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. (39) For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
Peter was referring to the gospel being spread to future generations by people coming to faith in Jesus Christ. He was not decreeing infant baptism. There is nothing in that verse about the age of the "children". To read into the text that that means infants (<1 year old) is called Eisegesis. Nor can it be said that Peter was saying that Baptism is what saves a person, that would be more reading into the text.
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Ephesians 2:8-10, "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."
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yes!
We are save by faith in Christ alone that no man should boast...
Rather in the eyes of the God of the bible we are saved through faith in Christ.. now it does not mean religious men/people will believe this, because their religions/doctrines depend on their worship structure to save people which very well may include priests..
Does this mean you should not go to Church? no. you need church if not for your benefit but for how you would benefit others.
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Romans 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 [e]that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, [f]resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, [g]resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be [h]disappointed.”
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