Franklin Graham Admonishes Christians To Lay Off Trump

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maybe we should start a new movement to return to british rule....

if we had stayed british i bet we would have never had the civil war as slavery was outlawed in england around 1806???

those british are a little hard to understand with their dialect....
and their humor is way over my head.....
but at least they laugh at their own jokes.....
 
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maybe we should start a new movement to return to british rule....

if we had stayed british i bet we would have never had the civil war as slavery was outlawed in england around 1806???

those british are a little hard to understand with their dialect....
and their humor is way over my head.....
but at least they laugh at their own jokes.....

It wasn’t abolished in the Empire until 1833.
 
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You're the one who brought up teeth, I was just pointing out various true things about them. You might also want to get that hum thing you have looked at. It seems to come up a lot in this thread. :wave:
tulc(also wants Episaw to have a good day as well) :oldthumbsup:

As I said, what has that got to do with the topic?
 
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I have always wondered why Americans are more enamoured with royalty than the British are.

I'm not enamoured with the British Monarchy... What a silly thing to say. Not me, never. :sorry:

I don't read historical books about them or read news about Prince William or Prince Harry. I didn't watch the royal weddings of the Princes and I didn't get up at 2:00 A.M. in the morning to watch Princess Diana's funeral either. And I don't binge watch The Crown on Netflix. Just sayin'...

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all hail to the queen of england......

prince charles???????

I think that would be God Bless the Queen and not all hail to the Queen. I could be wrong though. I could ask a couple of my online British Harry Potter fan friends just to be sure on that point.
 
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actually it is
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN....
british national anthem .....same song as

MY COUNTRY TIS OF THEE...SWEET LAND OF LIBERTY
i think they stole it from us during the revolutionary war they lost...

i think the brits got something going on here....
maybe we should change the lyrics to
GOD SAVE OUR PRESIDENT.....
 
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It wasn’t abolished in the Empire until 1833.
yea I saw the movie with that slave owner who wrote the song
AMAZING GRACE
william wilberforce became a born again christian and did his best to overturn slavery....

your right it took him and others 30 years to overturn it.....
still was 30 years ahead of the US
 
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"Amazing Grace" was written by the slave ship captain John Newton as an entry for a hymn writing contest and to celebrate his survival of a storm at sea. Even after his conversion to Christianity he continued for some time longer as a slaving captain.
 
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"Amazing Grace" was written by the slave ship captain John Newton as an entry for a hymn writing contest and to celebrate his survival of a storm at sea. Even after his conversion to Christianity he continued for some time longer as a slaving captain.

That just kind of adds a whole new meaning to the term, "wretch," doesn't it? :doh:
 
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That just kind of adds a whole new meaning to the term, "wretch," doesn't it? :doh:

It's always easy though to sit back from a distance and judge history through a modern lens without regard to historical context.

"In 1788, 34 years after he had retired from the slave trade, Newton broke a long silence on the subject with the publication of a forceful pamphlet Thoughts Upon the Slave Trade, in which he described the horrific conditions of the slave ships during the Middle Passage. He apologised for "a confession, which ... comes too late ... It will always be a subject of humiliating reflection to me, that I was once an active instrument in a business at which my heart now shudders." He had copies sent to every MP, and the pamphlet sold so well that it swiftly required reprinting.[16]

Newton became an ally of William Wilberforce, leader of the Parliamentary campaign to abolish the African slave trade. He lived to see the British passage of the Slave Trade Act 1807, which enacted this event.

Some modern writers have criticised Newton for continuing to participate in the slave trade after his religious conversion, but Christianity did not deter thousands of slaveholders in the colonies from owning other men, nor many others from profiting by the slave trade.

Newton came to believe that during the first five of his nine years as a slave trader he had not been a Christian in the full sense of the term. In 1763 he wrote: "I was greatly deficient in many respects ... I cannot consider myself to have been a believer in the full sense of the word, until a considerable time afterwards."[11]" - Wikipedia
 
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It's always easy though to sit back from a distance and judge history through a modern lens without regard to historical context.

"In 1788, 34 years after he had retired from the slave trade, Newton broke a long silence on the subject with the publication of a forceful pamphlet Thoughts Upon the Slave Trade, in which he described the horrific conditions of the slave ships during the Middle Passage. He apologised for "a confession, which ... comes too late ... It will always be a subject of humiliating reflection to me, that I was once an active instrument in a business at which my heart now shudders." He had copies sent to every MP, and the pamphlet sold so well that it swiftly required reprinting.[16]

Newton became an ally of William Wilberforce, leader of the Parliamentary campaign to abolish the African slave trade. He lived to see the British passage of the Slave Trade Act 1807, which enacted this event.

Some modern writers have criticised Newton for continuing to participate in the slave trade after his religious conversion, but Christianity did not deter thousands of slaveholders in the colonies from owning other men, nor many others from profiting by the slave trade.

Newton came to believe that during the first five of his nine years as a slave trader he had not been a Christian in the full sense of the term. In 1763 he wrote: "I was greatly deficient in many respects ... I cannot consider myself to have been a believer in the full sense of the word, until a considerable time afterwards."[11]" - Wikipedia

No, it's not easy to sit back from a distance and judge history, especially when someone will come along just afterward and assert that a correction be made due to a misunderstanding. :sorry:

Ok. So....Newton wrote Amazing Grace AFTER his slave shipping days, right?
 
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you guys that are against Trump......

if you supported clinton in the 90s then you basically paved the way for trump to run.....

by not impeaching clinton in the senate and removing him from office...
you allowed a guy like trump with similiar background to run....

might as well have supported trump ....

no one would have run for 50 years with trump and clintons background if they had impeached and removed clinton from office in the 90s....!!!!!!

so if you dont like trump blame yourselves and your supporting cast of the clinton dynasty.....
Yeah, but what about Clinton?
 
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As I said, what has that got to do with the topic?
I don't know, again you were the one who seemed interested in discussing teeth, why did you want to discuss them in this thread? :scratch:
tulc(wonders if people with no teeth can still lie if they can't lie through them? :sorry:
 
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same thing happened in elijahs day ...he got rid of the baal prophets but not jezebel.....

took elisha many more years do destroy jexebel....
Trump is a modern day Jezebel? Hmmm.... Make Ahab Great Again?
 
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