The Genesis Creation & Global Cataclysmic Flood - Bible and Evidences

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

The Genesis Creation & Global Cataclysmic Flood - Bible and Evidences

Another Message, the Loud Cry of the Three Angels Messages is swelling and going forth even in these Last days [Revelation 14:6-12; 18:1-24]... a message for all, get into the "Ark" [Revelation 11:19], before the "door" [Luke 13:25; Daniel 12:1] of Mercy and Probation closes forever, and the "rain" of destruction comes [Psalms 11:6; Isaiah 28:17, etc]...

(Genesis 1:1 - 2:1-3) 6 literal 24 hour consecutive days, with evening and morning, numbers and the 7th day, the rest, the sabbath of the LORD (Exodus 20:8-11).

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Matthew 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Luke 11:51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Matthew 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Isaiah 54:9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2 Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

A massive resource tool - http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/biblical-creation-history/id1593499

The Creation Model

Man and Dragons/Behemoth, etc (Dinosaurs) lived together from the beginning!

The Great Dinosaur Deception Exposed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdkONYsjZg

Evidence of the Global Cataclysmic Flood and of Noah's Ark (real archeological find!)

What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy Volume 1

What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy Volume 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66409i-yn4

The Exodus from Egypt

Halbhh · Jul 30, 2018

Faith in Jesus, risen, our redeemer, is alone the only faith that saves.

In contrast, a faith in one version of creationism against other versions of creationism (claiming God only could only have created one way and not another way) won't save even one soul.

But anyone will be saved in spite of whatever lack of esoteric knowledge if they believe in Him.

See? You could get your guesses about small details of creationism wrong, but you will still be saved if you truly believe in Christ Jesus risen and rely on Him as your redeemer.

Build your faith foundation on this Rock instead --

24“Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

Every other foundation is sand -- only hearing His Words and putting them into practice is a reliable foundation. Not any other.

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

Halbhh said:
Faith in Jesus...

Which Jesus are you talking about?

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

The Global Flood:

As for the size of the Flood it was completely Global, not 'ethnocentric', but rather was covering the whole surface of the entire earth below the heavens even as high as 15 cubits above the "then" highest mountains.

Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. (Genesis 7:20)

[1] First we see that the waters "prevail[ed]". "...the waters prevailed..." [Genesis 7:18,19,20,24] From the Hebrew [Tr.]: "gabar" meaning to "have strength over", "over-powering", etc. The waters "prevail[ed]" so much so, that "fifteen cubits upward" above the very "mountains were covered" and overcame, so that "all the high hills", being "under the whole heaven, were covered".

And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that [were] under the whole heaven, were covered. (Genesis 7:19)

[2] Secondly we read that all men ["all flesh" and "every man", vs 21], from "under the whole heaven" and all land animals and birds ["fowls also of the air" vs 3 and "fowl(s)" vs 8,14,21 and "fowl of heaven" vs 23], wherein is the breath of life, outside of the Ark were destroyed:

And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. (Genesis 6:13)

And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein [is] the breath of life, from under heaven; [and] every thing that [is] in the earth shall die. (Genesis 6:17)

And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: (Genesis 7:21)

And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. (Genesis 9:11)

And I will remember my covenant, which [is] between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. (Genesis 9:15)

Consider carefully that the text is from the viewpoint of God ["before me" Genesis 6:13, 7:1], and that which is "under the whole heaven", and not some localized, ethnocentric event. It would be meaningless to have those "fowls" which could fly enter into the Ark, the Clean Pairs [of Sevens] an the Unclean Pairs [by Twos], should the Flood not be indeed entriely global.

It is easily demonstrated that Birds can fly away from and can escape a local flood, especially since the Flood did not cover all the mountains in a single day. In fact, animals know of disaster many hours and sometimes even days in advance of men, and would have fled before it even happened, but instead we see them miraculously brought to the Ark by God, in Pairs!

Mankind also who were left outside of the Ark, too could just as easily flee to another location through various means should the flood be merely local. The Antediluvians were no fools [though such, not to enter the Ark] to stand around while waters arose, for these men were of giant intellect, knowing city building [Genesis 4:17], metalurgy [Genesis 4:22], fine craft like musical instruments, arts [Genesis 4:21], tent making [Genesis 4:20], etc. [and we can even go to places in the world where such ancient remains are found of said civilization, massive stones, superb craftsmanship, surgery, things of exquisite and even unrepeatable design, more on this later]

[3] Thirdly, the Covenant that God makes with Noah and "all flesh" is universal [entirely global] in scope. Look again at the Promise and Covenant made by God:

And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. (Genesis 9:11)

And I will remember my covenant, which [is] between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. (Genesis 9:15)

The Promise and Covenant of God then made would be meaningless, as would be the sign ["[rain]bow" Genesis 9:13] given to "all flesh". If the Flood only destroyed a local [ethnocentric] locale then the Promise is worthless Biblically, for endless floods and disasters have since come upon the earth and wiped out many peoples, and beasts. Just look at the recent destruction in Japan, and further back, New Orleans, etc.

I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. (Genesis 9:13)

However, God's promise stand's firm, in that never again would a Flood of water cover the whole earth, even though in the very end times to come, "islands" will flee away at the coming destruction.

[4] Fourthly, God made all men, and not just those in “Noah's valley” [ethnocentric locale]:

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Genesis 1:26)

And so, God was angry with all mortals ["all flesh"] upon the Earth:

The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. (Genesis 6:11)

And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. (Genesis 6:12)

[5] Fifthly, God had all the fountains of the great abyss break up, not just some localized [ethnocentric] fountains, nor few fountains, but ALL:

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. (Genesis 7:11)

The Bible declares that the great abyss is below the entire surface of the earth, and not merely localized to “Noah's valley” [ethnocentric locale]:

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (Genesis 1:2)

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

[6] Sixthly, the Flood lasted much longer than 40 days and 40 nights [in which it rained], for it lasted roughly a little over a year [370], counting the entirety of time:

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. (Genesis 7:11)

And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. (Genesis 7:12)

And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first [month], the first [day] of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry. (Genesis 8:13)

And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried. (Genesis 8:14)

The Rain, from the floodgates of the sky, was not the only part of the Deluge, but also the vast amounts and endless volumes of water which burst forth from beneath the earth in the breaking up of the great abyss:

The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained; (Genesis 8:2)

The remainder of scripture also gives:

Job says:

Which were cut down out of time, whose foundation was overflown with a flood: (Job 22:16) [speaking of all of the wicked men and the way in which they had trodden, verse 15]

Isaiah declares a global flood:

For this [is as] the waters of Noah unto me: for [as] I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. (Isaiah 54:9)

Peter makes it quite clear that God destroyed them all and took them all away (buried in water, a figure of complete immersion of baptism, then after to be covered in fire), only 8 souls of mankind being saved [Noah "only" and his family and their wives Genesis 7:23]:

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. (1 Peter 3:20)

The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: (1 Peter 3:21)

And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; (2 Peter 2:5)

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, (2 Peter 3:3)

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (2 Peter 3:5)

Whereby the world that then was, being, overflowed with water, perished: (2 Peter 3:6)

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. (2 Peter 3:7)

Several words used by Peter in the Greek for this flood are, "Kosmos", universe, totality of something [like of the earth/planet], and "kataklyzō", 1) to overwhelm with water, to submerge, deluge [like Baptism, complete total immersion/submersion] [it is also where we get the word cataclysm] and Peter directly equates that Global judgment by water to the one to come by fire - total global judgment.

[7] A seventh serious matter, would be to localize the Flood to an ethnocentric locale would then cripple the Final Judgment of scripture to an ethnocentric locale, as Peter equates them together, one the forerunner of the other [a world baptised in Water, then also Fire, like as we]. Scripture is more than clear on the global fires to come [can be cited if necessary].

[8] Eighth, in even that Jesus Himself says that they were all destroyed in the flood, and relates the flood to the final judgment by fire [which will cover the whole Earth, Revelation 20, etc]:

But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Matthew 24:37)

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, (Matthew 24:38)

And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Matthew 24:39)

And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. (Luke 17:26)

They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. (Luke 17:27)

All of the wicked humans were destroyed by the Flood and only 8 humans were spared - yet Satan lived through the flood and continued to entice...

Other mentions of the great flood:

Thou coveredst it with the deep as [with] a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. (Psalms 104:6)

Others, seeking to make excuses, cite other passages, but do not consider their context, and so dealing with 'roaring lions' and 'here be dragons'...

Psalms 104. Deals with the totality of the waters from their Creation [Psalms 104:5-6a], to their covering the Earth [Psalms 104:6b-8], to no more again covering the whole earth by God's covenant [Psalms 104:9-13, etc].

Job 38. Speaking about the omnipotence of God declaring that He controls and upholds all things and sets their bounds, whether they be held or released for His purposes. The time of Job is after the Global Flood and before Abraham. Job fully believed in the Globality of the Flood, see noted passages above or [Job 22:15-16, 26:5,12; etc].

Proverbs 8. Again as Job, signifying God's Omnipotence and His controlling and uphold ing all things by His Power, He setting their bounds, whether they be held or released for His Purposes. They should not "pass HIS commandment", nor can they do otherwise than to respond to His will, as was done in the Global Flood.

Compromise is impossible.

http://www.3bible.com/illustrations/CSE Longevity Chart Adam to Joseph.pdf

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

Thomas Aquinas (sainted 'angelic' "Doctor" of the Roman Catholic church), Summa Theologica:

"...for all the senses are founded on one — the literal — from which alone can any argument be drawn..."

"...nothing necessary to faith is contained under the spiritual sense which is not elsewhere put forward by the Scripture in its literal sense. ..."

In case you have not read Hebrews 11:3, Creation is necessary to faith, even as it is found in the Ten Commandments, it deals with Faith and Morals.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Exodus 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Genesis 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

Genesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

There can be no such thing as a 'mystical' (allegorical) or any other without there first being the literal/natural (1 Corinthians 15:46).

The literal is the root.

Genesis is the first book! Genesis is that which all the other books are based! Every single doctrine may be found in its pages, from state of the dead, to sanctuary, diet, to destruction of the wicked, salvation, sin, law, grace, Jesus, etc.

Here is what Thomas Aquinas wrote about Creation in the days, which btw he believed in ex-nihilo, and also consider the same in the light of the Law of God, dealing with Creation and His authority and the changing of it, in his Summa Theologica:

[He begins by rebutting and refuting Augustine]

"...by the "evening" and the "morning" ... But, according to Basil (Hom. ii in Hexaem.), the entire period takes its name, as is customary, from its more important part, the day. And instance of this is found in the words of Jacob, "The days of my pilgrimage," where night is not mentioned at all. But the evening and the morning are mentioned as being the ends of the day, since day begins with morning and ends with evening, or because evening denotes the beginning of night, and morning the beginning of day. It seems fitting, also, that where the first distinction of creatures is described, divisions of time should be denoted only by what marks their beginning. And the reason for mentioning the evening first is that as the evening ends the day, which begins with the light, the termination of the light at evening precedes the termination of the darkness, which ends with the morning. But Chrysostom's explanation is that thereby it is intended to show that the natural day does not end with the evening, but with the morning (Hom. v in Gen.). ...

Reply to Objection 7. The words "one day" are used when day is first instituted, to denote that one day is made up of twenty-four hours. Hence, by mentioning "one," the measure of a natural day is fixed. Another reason may be to signify that a day is completed by the return of the sun to the point from which it commenced its course. And yet another, because at the completion of a week of seven days, the first day returns..." - Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Question 74, Article 3, Reply to Objection 6 and 7
[The Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas
Second and Revised Edition, 1920
Literally translated by Fathers of the English Dominican Province
Online Edition Copyright © 2008 by Kevin Knight
Nihil Obstat. F. Innocentius Apap, O.P., S.T.M., Censor. Theol.
Imprimatur. Edus. Canonicus Surmont, Vicarius Generalis. Westmonasterii.
APPROBATIO ORDINIS
Nihil Obstat. F. Raphael Moss, O.P., S.T.L. and F. Leo Moore, O.P., S.T.L.
Imprimatur. F. Beda Jarrett, O.P., S.T.L., A.M., Prior Provincialis Angliæ
MARIÆ IMMACULATÆ - SEDI SAPIENTIÆ] - SUMMA THEOLOGICA: All the seven days in common (Prima Pars, Q. 74)

Let us see what Thomas Aquinas [Summa Theologica] himself says how it came to be that the Roman Catholic church observes the 'first [day] of the week'; aka, Sunday, and He says that it was not God - not Jesus, not even the Apostles that changed the day from the 7th Day to that of the first, but He clearly says it was "...by the institution of the Church and the custom of Christian people..." and he also says that the Sabbath Commandment of the Decalogue is that which "...describes the exterior worship of God as the sign of a universal boon that concerns all." and the "...sign of this we are commanded to keep holy seventh day..." and "the reason for it is given: "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth . . . and rested on the seventh day."".

So even Thomas Aquinas understood that the 7th Day Sabbath Commandment points out the Creator of All and was given for All [not just Jew; for he says, "a universal boon"], and directly cited Exodus 20:11:

"I answer that, ...Now the precepts of the decalogue are, so to speak, first and common principles of the Law, and consequently the third precept of the decalogue describes the exterior worship of God as the sign of a universal boon that concerns all. This universal boon was the work of the Creation of the world, from which work God is stated to have rested on the seventh day: and sign of this we are commanded to keep holy seventh day--that is, to set it aside as a day to be given to God. Hence after the precept about the hallowing of the Sabbath the reason for it is given: "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth . . . and rested on the seventh day." ..."

"...Reply to Objection 4. In the New Law the observance of the Lord's day took the place of the observance of the Sabbath, not by virtue of the precept but by the institution of the Church and the custom of Christian people...." [Roman Catholic Online Summa Theologica; Thomas Aquinas; "Second Part of the Second Part "; "Question 122. The precepts of justice"; "Article 4. Whether the third precept of the decalogue, concerning the hallowing of the Sabbath, is fittingly expressed?"'

The Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas
Second and Revised Edition, 1920
Literally translated by Fathers of the English Dominican Province
Online Edition Copyright © 2008 by Kevin Knight
Nihil Obstat. F. Innocentius Apap, O.P., S.T.M., Censor. Theol.
Imprimatur. Edus. Canonicus Surmont, Vicarius Generalis. Westmonasterii.
APPROBATIO ORDINIS
Nihil Obstat. F. Raphael Moss, O.P., S.T.L. and F. Leo Moore, O.P., S.T.L.
Imprimatur. F. Beda Jarrett, O.P., S.T.L., A.M., Prior Provincialis Angliæ
MARIÆ IMMACULATÆ - SEDI SAPIENTIÆ] - SUMMA THEOLOGICA: The precepts of justice (Secunda Secundae Partis, Q. 122)

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

Here is what Charles Lyell (uniformitarian evolutionist) wrote:

"... I conceived the idea five or six years ago, that if ever the Mosaic geology could be set down without giving offense, it would be in an historical sketch..." [Life, Letters And Journals Of Sir Charles Lyell, Bart. Page 217] - Link, page 217

Science? No, hatred for Scripture. A dangerous Bias, which now continues in the compromise of Christians, which the origins or dating rock layers had anything to do with science rather than purely made up imagination from a antibiblical philosophy. He, among others, set out to deliberately destroy 'Moses' and the 'geology' set forth by God.

Jesuits are all over evolutionary and theistic evolutionary errors, lies and hoaxes:

The erroneous evolutionary (and still utilized today in various forms) Lamarckism; Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, Chevalier de Lamarck [Lamarckism] as trained in Jesuit education:

"... Lamarck enrolled in a Jesuit college in Amiens in the late 1750s.[3]..." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Lamarck

The erroneous 'Big Bang' model was formulated by the Jesuit Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, a Roman Catholic Priest:

"... After a classical education at a Jesuit secondary school, the Collège du Sacré-Coeur, in Charleroi, Lemaître ..." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lemaître

Tied to this erroneous "Big Bang" model is the current Vatican Observatory in Arizona [1] & [2], and the Jesuit Guy Consolmagno & Paul R Mueller, SJ [1] (Authors of "Would you baptize an Alien?"), and see also Jose Gabriel Funes, SJ:

"... Consolmagno attended the University of Detroit Jesuit High School ..." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Consolmagno

Piltdown man Hoax, promulgated by Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (New Agers quote him, like Madame Blavatsky, Theosophist):

"... a French idealist philosopher and Jesuit priest ..." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin

"... Woodward's reconstruction included apelike canine teeth, which was itself controversial. In August 1913, Woodward, Dawson and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, a Jesuit priest and friend of Dawson who had trained as a paleontologist and geologist, began a systematic search of the spoil heaps specifically to find the missing canines. Teilhard soon found a canine that, according to Woodward, fitted the jaw perfectly. ...

... The discovery was announced at a Geological Society meeting and was given the Latin name Eoanthropus dawsoni ("Dawson's dawn-man"). The questionable significance of the assemblage remained the subject of considerable controversy until it was conclusively exposed in 1953 as a forgery. It was found to have consisted of the altered mandible and some teeth of an orangutan deliberately combined with the cranium of a fully developed, though small-brained, modern human.

The Piltdown hoax is prominent for two reasons: the attention it generated around the subject of human evolution, and the length of time, 41 years, that elapsed from its alleged initial discovery to its definitive exposure as a composite forgery." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

The Jesuit Francis:

"Vatican City — Pope Francis on Monday waded into the controversial debate over the origins of human life, saying the big bang theory did not contradict the role of a divine creator, but even required it.

The pope was addressing the plenary assembly of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which gathered at the Vatican to discuss "Evolving Concepts of Nature."

"When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so," Francis said.

"He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfillment."

Francis said the beginning of the world was not "a work of chaos" but created from a principle of love. He said sometimes competing beliefs in creation and evolution could co-exist.

"God is not a demiurge [demigod] or a magician, but the Creator who gives being to all entities," the pope said. "Evolution in nature is not opposed to the notion of Creation, because evolution presupposes the creation of beings that evolve."

Unlike much of evangelical Protestantism in the U.S., Catholic teaching traditionally has not been at odds with evolution. In 1950, Pope Pius XII proclaimed there was no opposition between evolution and Catholic doctrine. In 1996, St. John Paul II endorsed Pius' statement.

Some wondered if Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI wanted to change that when he and some acolytes seemed to endorse the theory of intelligent design, the idea that the world is too complex to have evolved according to Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection. Cardinal Christoph Schönborn of Vienna, a close associate of Benedict, penned a widely noticed 2005 op-ed in The New York Times that said "Evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense -- an unguided, unplanned process ... is not."

Giovanni Bignami, a professor and president of Italy's National Institute for Astrophysics, welcomed Francis' comments, saying he had buried the "pseudo theories" of creationists.

"The pope's statement is significant," Bignami told Italian news agency Adnkronos. "We are the direct descendents from the Big Bang that created the universe. Evolution came from creation."

Giulio Giorello, professor of the philosophy of science at Milan's University degli Studi, said he believed Francis was "trying to reduce the emotion of dispute or presumed disputes" with science. ..." - https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/pope-francis-evolution-not-inconsistent-notion-creation

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Moreover, they are in communication with devils on earth ("Marian apparitions", a messenger/angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14)), whom they think are the true heavenly angelic beings, called 'aliens' among the secular:

“Very soon we will not have to deny our Christian faith … but there is information coming from another world, and once it is confirmed it is going to require a re-reading of the Gospel as we know it.” - Giuseppe Tanzella-Nitti (Professor, Vatican University, Opus Dei theologian of the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross in Rome)

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“Very soon the nations will look to Aliens for their salvation.” - Guy Consolmagno (SJ, Jesuit) – Leading Astronomer

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“Jesus might be the son of a star child.” - Guy Consolmagno (SJ, Jesuit) – Leading Astronomer

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“There is an Alien presence on Earth now.” - Monsignor Corrado Balducci (Vatican Spokesman; longtime Head Exorcist at the Vatican) (the dragon and his angels were cast to the earth; Revelation 12:7-13)

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“... that allow us to say with assurance … that the existence of these beings is real.”- Monsignor Corrado Balducci (Vatican Spokesman)

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“Because the mentality amongst those who are at the highest levels of Vatican administration and geopolitics, know … what's going on in space, and what's approaching us, could be of great import in the next five years, ten years.” - Malachi Martin (SJ, Jesuit), given in an interview (1997) with Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM.

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"Angels 'like sunlight that refracts on you through a crystal vase,' Angelogist says.

By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)
12/25/2013
Catholic Online

Contrary to popular belief, angels don't have wings

Angels have become more popular and mainstream with New Age thought permeating the secular world. "Angelogist" Father Renzo Lavator in Rome says that to the contrary, real angels don't have wings. Rather, "They are a bit like sunlight that refracts on you through a crystal vase."

LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Lavator also says that angels don't "look like cherubs." They are in fact more like shards of light.

"You do not see angels so much as feel their presence," he said at a recent conference. "They are a bit like sunlight that refracts on you through a crystal vase."

Speaking in Rome, he added: "I think there is a rediscovery of angels in Christianity."

The root of the word "angel" comes from "angelos" first spoken in the Mycenaean civilization in Greece more than 3,000 years ago. The word means "messenger" in ancient Greek.

Angelic visions appear in many religions and mythologies. They are usually depicted as having feathered wings on their backs and halos above their heads.

Angels are generally considered messengers of God in Christianity.

Lavator took part in a debate this week on angelic art by the Fondazione Archivio Storico, an Italian art foundation, and was held in the Vatican-owned Palazzo della Cancelleria.

"Following the cultural history of angels is following the history of humanity, or at least of our civilization," the organizers said.

"Angels have helped drive religious and philosophical thought and have given birth to sublime forms of poetic and artistic expression."

Lavator is dismissive of all the angel art presented around Christmas time. "There is space for that, but you have to understand that these are not real representations.

The widely-published Catholic clergyman is also a "demonologist." He adds that angels are more needed than ever because increasing secularization and materialism in society have left an "open door" for the devil. "There is a lot more interference from diabolical forces. That is why you see queues of people outside the exorcists' offices in churches.

"Pope Francis (the Jesuit) talks more about the devil than about angels and I think rightly so. But it's still early, he will get round to the angels too."" - [Catholic Online], also seen [here], &c

Beware of the false 2nd Coming. They will need the secular mindset to join with them also, and will use and are using the ideology of 'aliens'.

Pope Pius XII [1950] saw a 'sphere' over the Vatican Gardens; from hence the Marian Dogma of the Assumption.

The Jesuits have to do this, as they deny any evidence for a global catastrophic and cataclysmic flood, and alegorize Creation, while literalizing Revelation (all they have done is swap the two).

“[Time Index 01:06:48] ... one of the major deceptions of “the Last days”. Then the 'priest' [Satanic high-priest], uh, told us [Roger Morneau and friend], uh, we had – we talked for quite awhile, and uh, then he said, 'Could I have a bit more of your time, I want to tell you something very fascinating?' He says, 'The Grand Plan, the Master's [Satan] Grand Plan, for harvesting the Nations, uh, for harvesting the multitudes of the earth into His cause, just before the close of the Great Controversy, between the forces of Good and Evil.' So he [Satanic high-priest] continued, you know, after we [Roger Morneau and friend], uh, expressed ourselves, that we would be interested to know more about the activities of the “spirits” [fallen angels], and He [Satanic high-priest] said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This, this Grand Plan, is, is going to take people – people are going to EAT this stuff – cause he [Satanic high-priest] says, “Spirits, demon spirits, will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far-distant planets of the galaxies, that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth, of the impending destruction of the planet, unless something seriously proper is done to avoid it.” ...” - Time Index 01:06:48 – 01:07:54

It is written:

Luke 21:11 KJB - And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

“... Fearful sights of a supernatural character will soon be revealed in the heavens, in token of the power of miracle-working demons. The spirits of devils will go forth to the kings of the earth and to the whole world, to fasten them in deception, and urge them on to unite with Satan in his last struggle against the government of Heaven. By these [624] agencies, rulers and subjects will be alike deceived. Persons will arise pretending to be Christ himself, and claiming the title and worship which belong to the world's Redeemer. They will perform wonderful miracles of healing, and will profess to have revelations from Heaven contradicting the testimony of the Scriptures. {GC88 623.3}

As the crowning act in the great drama of deception, Satan himself will personate Christ. The church has long professed to look to the Saviour's advent as the consummation of her hopes. Now the great deceiver will make it appear that Christ has come. In different parts of the earth, Satan will manifest himself among men as a majestic being of dazzling brightness, resembling the description of the Son of God given by John in the Revelation. [Revelation 1:13-15.] The glory that surrounds him is unsurpassed by anything that mortal eyes have yet beheld. The shout of triumph rings out upon the air., “Christ has come! Christ has come!” The people prostrate themselves in adoration before him, while he lifts up his hands, and pronounces a blessing upon them, as Christ blessed his disciples when he was upon the earth. His voice is soft and subdued, yet full of melody. In gentle, compassionate tones he presents some of the same gracious, heavenly truths which the Saviour uttered; he heals the diseases of the people, and then, in his assumed character of Christ, he claims to have changed the Sabbath to Sunday, and commands all to hallow the day which he has blessed. He declares that those who persist in keeping holy the seventh day are blaspheming his name by refusing to listen to his angels sent to them with light and truth. This is the strong, almost overmastering delusion. Like the Samaritans who were deceived by Simon Magus, the multitudes, from the least to the greatest, give heed to these sorceries, saying, This is “the great power of God.” [Acts 8:10.] {GC88 624.1}

But the people of God will not be misled. The teachings of this false christ are not in accordance with the Scriptures His blessing is pronounced upon the worshipers of the beast [625] and his image,—the very class upon whom the Bible declares that God's unmingled wrath shall be poured out. {GC88 624.2} ...” - The Great Controversy 1911, pages 623.3-624.2; listen to it now while you can - https://www.thedesireofagesproject.com/free-gc-audio-book.html

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

God's word is literally true and absolutely reliable as factual history in Genesis in regards Creation in its 7 literal consecutive days and in the matter of the global cataclysmic flood and the events therein and between. It affects what one believes about endtime events in the execution of judgment to come.

'Evolutionism', 'big bangism', 'uniformitariansism', 'Lamarckism', 'Darwinism', 'Neo Darwinism', 'Punctuated Equilibrium', 'geological column (as depicted in 'geologic' (earth science) text books)', 'ethnocentric (localized to ethnic) noachian deluge (flood)', and so also the so-called 'theistic evolutionism' ((of which Jesuits are behind) the compromises, day-agers, gap, etc.) are all stemming from a lie of satan in the Garden of Eden, and is "science falsely so called", filled with hoaxes, and false representations, and even outright deliberate deception, etc, which denies the plain word of God and destroys faith in His word, and even affects what one believes about how salvation and redemption works in the Everlating Gospel itself.

Creation or Evolution, Which? the Everlasting Gospel (Sermon by Alonzo T. Jones) - https://cdn.filestackcontent.com/WO...9bd5dfb2b970b91687b29be2dbe930b7fa193e67bca74

Dating Methods ... CrEvo Rant

Geological Column Busted!

Fossil Record Busted!

Toad You So!

Noah's Flood

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

Robert V. Gentry's Book - Creation's Tiny Mystery; Online Full - http://www.halos.com/book/ctm-toc.htm

Robert V Gentry at UT - Unrefuted Challenge

Pyong Ping · Jul 30, 2018

"Fixing" Lucy with a 'Power' Saw:

"... OWEN LOVEJOY: When I put the two parts of the pelvis together that we had, this part of the pelvis has pressed so hard and so completely into this one, that it caused it to be broken into a series of individual pieces, which were then fused together in later fossilization.

DON JOHANSON: After Lucy died, some of her bones lying in the mud must have been crushed or broken, perhaps by animals browsing at the lake shore.

OWEN LOVEJOY: This has caused the two bones in fact to fit together so well that they're in an anatomically impossible position.

DON JOHANSON: The perfect fit was an allusion that made Lucy's hip bones seems to flair out like a chimps. But all was not lost. Lovejoy decided he could restore the pelvis to its natural shape. He didn't want to tamper with the original, so he made a copy in plaster. He cut the damaged pieces out and put them back together the way they were before Lucy died. It was a tricky job, but after taking the kink out of the pelvis, it all fit together perfectly, like a three-dimensional jigsaw puzzle. As a result, the angle of the hip looks nothing like a chimps, but a lot like ours. Anatomically at least, Lucy could stand like a human. ..." - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2106hum1.html

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GenemZ · Aug 1, 2018

Pyong Ping said:
The Genesis Creation & Global Cataclysmic Flood - Bible and Evidences

Another Message, the Loud Cry of the Three Angels Messages is swelling and going forth even in these Last days [Revelation 14:6-12; 18:1-24]... a message for all, get into the "Ark" [Revelation 11:19], before the "door" [Luke 13:25; Daniel 12:1] of Mercy and Probation closes forever, and the "rain" of destruction comes [Psalms 11:6; Isaiah 28:17, etc]...

(Genesis 1:1 - 2:1-3) 6 literal 24 hour consecutive days, with evening and morning, numbers and the 7th day, the rest, the sabbath of the LORD (Exodus 20:8-11).

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Matthew 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Luke 11:51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Matthew 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Isaiah 54:9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2 Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

A massive resource tool - http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/biblical-creation-history/id1593499

The Creation Model

Man and Dragons/Behemoth, etc (Dinosaurs) lived together from the beginning!

The Great Dinosaur Deception Exposed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdkONYsjZg

Evidence of the Global Cataclysmic Flood and of Noah's Ark (real archeological find!)

What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy Volume 1

What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy Volume 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66409i-yn4

The Exodus from Egypt

Walter J Veith, From Evolutionist to Creationist, Testimony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlJH7A5NHT8

Walter J Veith - The World According to Darwin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leeS3I_jNGo

Walter J Veith - Genesis Conflict
https://amazingdiscoveries.tv/c/10/Genesis_Conflict_-_English/

Robert V Gentry, Halos, Physicist, Geology:
http://www.halos.com/videos/index.htm

Robert V Gentry at UT; Polonium halos - falsifiable hypothesis of young earth - synthesizing granite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgC-JycBSyo

Robert V Gentry, Classroom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SewYT-Xzwvk

Robert V Gentry, Center of the Universe, God's Throne, Parts 1-3; and American Physical Society presentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9c2xjZsspo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Air1nVg2Zes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdnYJnxVf4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC3RoDYeGd4

Ian Juby (Wazooloo), Conmplete Creation and CrEvo Rants and Genesis Week Programs
http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/wazooloo-complete-creation/id4824471

https://www.youtube.com/user/wazooloo

Mark Armitage (Fresh Dinosaur tissue, Triceratops and more)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqDV_MTQSxg

Evolution - Creation Facts:
http://evolutionfacts.com/index.htm

Evolution Cruncher PDF Book Source Citations, etc-
https://www.pearltrees.com/s/file/preview/136976298/Evolution20CruncherP.pdf

John McKay, Classroom sessions The Search for the Origin of Life Part A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-hbg4lTyEs

John McKay, Classroom sessions The Search for the Origin of Life Part B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBRl4RfKjAU

Refuting Textbook Arguments for Evolution, Thomas Kindell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUqzaekyx7U

Thermodynamics, Thomas Kindell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1yto0-z2bQ

Thomas Kindell reviews Ken Ham and Bill Nye debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfZ3Ih0K-1o

Bible History Timeline & Church History
http://timeline.biblehistory.com/home
http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/christian-church-history/id9058842

NorthWest Creation Conference Youtube Channel and Website
https://www.youtube.com/user/nwcreationnetwork
http://www.nwcreation.net/scc09.html
http://www.nwcreation.net/scc07.html
http://www.nwcreation.net/scc06.html
http://www.nwcreation.net/scc04.html

Further Resources:
http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/creation-websites-resources/id5102723

Much ado about nothing.... Genesis (and other books) in the original languages reveal that what we see around us today was not the first world created by God to grace the surface of the earth.

Yes.. In the beginning God created the heavens and earth.

It does not say...

In the beginning God created the heavens, earth, and the creation we now live on it.

This leads to a long drag out battle because of stubbornness and religious zeal. Religious zeal is the bane of the resistance to truth when it corrects.

If you think anyone who challenges your position has to be from Satan? Then you will never be able to be corrected. For we all make some very stupid assumptions along the way. Myself included.
WHY?

8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts."

Along our way in hopefully growing in knowledge of the Scriptures.. [when accurately taught] There will be passages that when accurately exegeted? They will it a point to prove that passage from Isaiah self evident. We have no way of knowing truth unless the Bible has been properly translated and explained. Weak translations can be a false teacher's dream.

There are things we are sure of that are not the truth. For when we choose to believe them we were not yet learned enough in doctrine to think with when we made a conclusion. A conclusion that we can became dogmatic with. Dogmatic (stubborn) as our means to induce a sense of stability in an unstable world. But, its a stability that is not stability. Its simply stubbornness manifested strongly done in the name of God.

This creation is only the latest creation of several.

AND! The Bible tells us its not to be the last!

For, in the future, what we now see, will be considered by those living in the future as a prehistoric world!

The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.

It will not be "evolution" that brings that world into being. It will happen over night! Likewise, God created other creations before this one. Other worlds that were designed for angelic dominion. Ours world was created for man's dominion.

Selah...

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