Which commandments to obey?

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In order to receive the Holy Spirit, one must believe in Jesus (Galatians 3:14); in order to believe in Jesus one must hear about Him; in order for one to hear about Him there must be a preacher; and in order for there to be a preacher one must be sent (Romans 10:13-15). And also, what is it that must be preached but the word of the Lord God (2 Timothy 4:2, Titus 1:3)?

Was there a preacher to teach Adam and Eve?

Yes, it was The Word of God who walked in the cool of the day with them. You are underestimating the promises of the Most High God, and making a crutch where there should be none.

The Comforter will direct His elect; He can do it without any human help. It is the choice of the believer to accept it. Most are ignorant of His voice, but didn't He say His sheep know His voice?

He has already told us everything. With The Most High God guaranteeing we will have His Statutes on our hearts, we are set for literal Life. And, since His Law points to the Redeemer And Salvation, one will know the Redeemer from the Law of the Most High God.
 
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Was there a preacher to teach Adam and Eve?

Yes, it was The Word of God who walked in the cool of the day with them. You are underestimating the promises of the Most High God, and making a crutch where there should be none.

The Comforter will direct His elect; He can do it without any human help. It is the choice of the believer to accept it. Most are ignorant of His voice, but didn't He say His sheep know His voice?

He has already told us everything. With The Most High God guaranteeing we will have His Statutes on our hearts, we are set for literal Life. And, since His Law points to the Redeemer And Salvation, one will know the Redeemer from the Law of the Most High God.
I disagree, based on the scriptures that I gave.

Since we are coming from opposite angles, I don't think either of us will be able to convince the other of his point of view. I believe the whole Bible, you believe in only some of it. I will not be able to convince you with portions of the Bible that you don't believe in; and you won't be able to convince me of anything you believe in that the Bible contradicts.

So I will pray for you; and you can pray for me, if you'd like.

God certainly is able to reach people who don't have His word, as was the case with Adam and Eve, and Abraham; but His chosen method today is to bring the good news through a preacher (Romans 10:13-15 if you would look it up or believe that it is inspired scripture); and that the preacher preach out of His established inspired and inerrant word (2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Timothy 4:2, Titus 1:3 (kjv)) which is identified as the Holy Bible.
 
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Absolutely my friend all of the commandments are based on Jesus’ two commandments. So if you keep His two commandments you will keep all the commandments. :)

It would be great if anyone ever obeyed those two commandments. I can’t and you don’t.Wouldnt it be great if there was a loop- hole to get around requirements that nobody but Christ could obey? I wonder what simply believing in the Gospel found in 1cor15:1-4 could do for us poor sinners who don’t love with ALL our hearts and All of our minds and ALL of our souls.I discovered commandment keeping was great.It just doesn’t save.Believing the Gospel does.
 
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BNR32FAN said: ↑
Yeah and most people have two neighbors one on each side so that gets really expensive. Especially if they’re not a believer and your the only one doing the giving. Lol

That's why we need the Cross...
That one hit me like a double-edged sword.

My wife and I live from month to month in a hotel room; so we have about 40 neighbors.

PS Ask yourself the question, Who is my neighbor? and check out the parable of the Good Samaritan in Luke 10:25-37. My neighbor is not just the person next door...it is everyone that crosses my path.
 
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It would be great if anyone ever obeyed those two commandments. I can’t and you don’t.Wouldnt it be great if there was a loop- hole to get around requirements that nobody but Christ could obey? I wonder what simply believing in the Gospel found in 1cor15:1-4 could do for us poor sinners who don’t love with ALL our hearts and All of our minds and ALL of our souls.I discovered commandment keeping was great.It just doesn’t save.Believing the Gospel does.
There is just something in human nature that wants to believe we can be good enough to deserve heaven. I remember being at a funeral and the preacher said something about "If we live a certain way, we go to heaven." Absolutely and totally unbiblical and a notion that paves the way to hell.
Living a certain way gets you no closer to heaven than the worse sinner on earth. Only grace "earns" you anything.
If you believe you can earn it, how will you ever depend on Christ?
This is good news, people! That's what gospel means. God loves you as you are, right now, with your grumpy moods and your up and down prayer life and your ---fill in the blank. Grace is so hard to accept, because it's unfair. Of course it is, but thank God! We don't want fairness if we really know our sin. We want mercy and as crazy as it is, that is what we get.
 
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It would be great if anyone ever obeyed those two commandments. I can’t and you don’t.Wouldnt it be great if there was a loop- hole to get around requirements that nobody but Christ could obey? I wonder what simply believing in the Gospel found in 1cor15:1-4 could do for us poor sinners who don’t love with ALL our hearts and All of our minds and ALL of our souls.I discovered commandment keeping was great.It just doesn’t save.Believing the Gospel does.

I absolutely agree with your point about how we will all fail but Jesus says we must repent and be born again in order to be saved. He also says we must produce fruit in order to be saved. He also gives us many examples of people (including believers) who will not be saved if they don’t repent and produce fruit. This tells us that our faith requires a certain level of devotion. Not simply acknowledging the existence of Jesus but also following His teachings. Or at least make an honest attempt to. The verses that state we are saved by believing do not overrule or negate the verses that state that we must repent and produce fruit. All of these are required for salvation. It’s kinda like saying in order to get a driver’s license you must pass the exam. This is true but it’s not the only requirement. You must also reside in that state and be of legal age etc. Believing is the very first step towards salvation. James 2:14-26 clearly says that believing is not the only requirement for salvation.

“Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life. So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows wherever it wants. Just as you can hear the wind but can’t tell where it comes from or where it is going, so you can’t explain how people are born of the Spirit.” “How are these things possible?” Nicodemus asked. Jesus replied, “You are a respected Jewish teacher, and yet you don’t understand these things? I assure you, we tell you what we know and have seen, and yet you won’t believe our testimony. But if you don’t believe me when I tell you about earthly things, how can you possibly believe if I tell you about heavenly things?”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5-12‬

Believing is the first step towards salvation. If you don’t first believe you cannot understand Jesus’ teachings.
 
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We are only saved by faith alone in Jesus Christ. Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father, except through me." This means that we come to God through faith in Jesus Christ, not by our works, Ephesians 2:9 and context.

It is like when a plant is firmly planted in good soil, and tended to by the husbandman, it is going to be a healthy plant and produce good fruit.

Now the fruit of the plant is the evidence that it is firmly planted in good soil and is a healthy plant. But the plant is not a healthy plant because it bears good fruit. It bears good fruit because it is a healthy plant. The bearing of good fruit in no way contributes to the health of the plant. It is a healthy plant because it is rooted in good soil. If salvation be the health of the plant, then the plant is "saved" not by its bearing of good fruit, but by its being rooted and grounded in good soil.

So then, the roots of the plant have to do with our faith alone in Jesus Christ; and the fruit develops as the result of the fact that we are rooted and grounded and able to draw up nourishment from the ground.

In a different but similar analogy, Jesus is the vine and we are the branches; and we are only able to produce fruit if we are connected to the vine; able to draw up nourishment from the vine. Fruit is produced out of the sap that is drawn from the vine into the end of the branch.

Therefore the key to living a holy life is not in the striving or in the attempt to live a holy life in the power of the flesh (such as thinking of what good works I can do and attempting to do them); but the key to living a holy life has to do with a relationship with God through faith in Jesus Christ. We spend time in His word, which is the bread of life, and we are nourished; therefore we are not running on empty when it is time for, and when the Lord leads us, to do good works for Him.
 
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The funny thing is, that when we place our faith in Jesus, it results in us being good people. The fruit of the Spirit is among other things goodness, Galatians 5:22-23. And Barnabas was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and faith, Acts of the Apostles 11:22-24.

But as the post immediately above would show, we are not saved by being good people, or because we are good people; we become good people because we are saved.

I think also that this is part of the reason why the law is a stumblingstone for so many people (Romans 9:30-33, Romans 10:1-4). We look at the saved, and see that they are morally upright, and just, and good in their nature and character, and think, that is the way to salvation, to be like them. However, among the works of the flesh is emulations. In trying to be good like them, and thinking we would be saved by such a thing, we would be missing the point. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is the gospel/good news in a nutshell. We would be wise to understand our salvation at its root cause and not be deceived by the fact that the fruit is evident in the lives of Christians, thinking that it is their fruit that saves them. It is not.
 
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Legality arguments aside, craving into to breaking any of the commandments on a regular basis would not lead to healthy souls, healthy minds, healthy characters that keep growing and bear strong fruit. All the original commandments make sense on keeping your character strong and your spirit as pure as possible. There's the obvious, extreme example of outright murder, but the others - coveting, lying, disrespect - we should all keep in mind to work on these areas so we can keep growing as people and in our walk with God.

So I say, obey all of them when it comes to the ten commandments. God's advice makes sense. He does know best. :oldthumbsup:

As for food and dietary laws, the bible seems clear to me about these issues too with the New Testament, all in a way that makes sense. If you have a struggle about these issues for some reason, I'd recommend bringing this to God in prayer.
 
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The funny thing is, that when we place our faith in Jesus, it results in us being good people. The fruit of the Spirit is among other things goodness, Galatians 5:22-23. And Barnabas was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and faith, Acts of the Apostles 11:22-24.

But as the post immediately above would show, we are not saved by being good people, or because we are good people; we become good people because we are saved.

I think also that this is part of the reason why the law is a stumblingstone for so many people (Romans 9:30-33, Romans 10:1-4). We look at the saved, and see that they are morally upright, and just, and good in their nature and character, and think, that is the way to salvation, to be like them. However, among the works of the flesh is emulations. In trying to be good like them, and thinking we would be saved by such a thing, we would be missing the point. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is the gospel/good news in a nutshell. We would be wise to understand our salvation at its root cause and not be deceived by the fact that the fruit is evident in the lives of Christians, thinking that it is their fruit that saves them. It is not.


An absolute masterpiece of a post! I have thought likewise for many years.....the Religionists thinks by imitating a true Christian, he will become one.Satan loves it.Thanks for sharing a great insight . I hate you for beating me to the punch.....lol
 
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Legality arguments aside, craving into to breaking any of the commandments on a regular basis would not lead to healthy souls, healthy minds, healthy characters that keep growing and bear strong fruit. All the original commandments make sense on keeping your character strong and your spirit as pure as possible. There's the obvious, extreme example of outright murder, but the others - coveting, lying, disrespect - we should all keep in mind to work on these areas so we can keep growing as people and in our walk with God.

So I say, obey all of them when it comes to the ten commandments. God's advice makes sense. He does know best. :oldthumbsup:

As for food and dietary laws, the bible seems clear to me about these issues too with the New Testament, all in a way that makes sense. If you have a struggle about these issues for some reason, I'd recommend bringing this to God in prayer.

If I really love the Lord and neighbor, everything else will fall into place, Galatians 5:22-23.
 
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An absolute masterpiece of a post! I have thought likewise for many years.....the Religionists thinks by imitating a true Christian, he will become one.Satan loves it.Thanks for sharing a great insight . I hate you for beating me to the punch.....lol
I'm sure you'll have opportunities to share this truth elsewhere, my brother...

Ecclesiastes 11:6, 2 Corinthians 9:6, Amen?
 
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If I really love the Lord and neighbor, everything else will fall into place, Galatians 5:22-23.

A very good point - if you follow the most important commandments to love and seek God with all that you are and all that you have and love your fellow man, the others should naturally fall into place as a desire to achieve anyway.
 
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If I really love the Lord and neighbor, everything else will fall into place, Galatians 5:22-23.
True, but loving God means to obey His commandments. If you are loving God according to how He defines loving him, then we will be obeying His commands
 
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True, but loving God means to obey His commandments. If you are loving God according to how He defines loving him, then we will be obeying His commands
Most definitely, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10.
 
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The seventh day sabbath is still in effect as no change of day was given and we are told that the day of rest instituted by God Remains. The Sabbath day is part of the Moral Law that is still kept in the New heavens and the New earth, the Moral law is written on the hearts of all Christians so having a physical set of Stone tablets is no longer necessary but the seventh day sabbath(Saturday) remains. The whole mosaic law written on Parchment was fulfilled in Christ(Civil, Ceremonial, and Dietary) and we were given the Law of Christ.

It is my belief that the whole Law of moses(law of the Covenant) was fulfilled/completed by Christ. I show this very belief with strong doctrine using the full sword of God. I ask that you take pains to read through everything that I have presented to you, not simply dismissing it out of hand(Proverbs 18:13) and providing lip service saying "Your wrong" or "no Proof here". I would love to discuss with anyone and everyone who Loves the Lord and wishes to compare doctrines to see which one agrees with scripture.

The Fulfillment of the Old Testament Law

Old Testament Law

The Old Testament Law which was the Old Covenant Had many Names

Handwriting of ordinances-Exodus 34:27; Nehemiah 9:13,14; 2 Chronicles 33:8; Exodus 18:20;Leviticus 18:4; 2 Kings 17:34,35,37,38

Law of moses-Joshua 8:31,32,34,35; Joshua 23:6; Judges 4:11; 1 Kings 2:3; 2 Kings 14:6; 2 Kings 23:25; 2 Chronicles 23:18; 2 Chronicles 30:16; Ezra 3:2; Ezra 7:6; Nehemiah 8:1; Daniel 9:11,13; Malachi 4:4

Law of the Covenant/Book of the Covenant- Exodus 34:27; Exodus 24:7; 2 Kings 23:21; 2 Kings 23:2,3,21

Book of the Law- Deut 29:27,29; Joshua 1:7-8; Deuteronomy 31:24,26; Deuteronomy 30:10; Joshua 23:6; Joshua 24:26; 2 Kings 14:6; 2 Chronicles 25:4; 2 Chronicles 17:9; Nehemiah 9:3; Nehemiah 8:1; Ezra 6:18; Nehemiah 13:1; 2 Kings 22:8-13 ; Psalm 40:7; 1 Samuel 10:25; Nehemiah 8:9; Joshua 8:31,31,34,35

By the Old testament law we were to follow every law contained within the book of the
Covenant(Civil, Dietary, Ceremonial) if you failed to follow even one of these laws you were
Cursed (Deuteronomy 27:26, Joshua 8:34, Deuteronomy 28:58-61; 2 Kings 22:13).
A New covenant will be made:Jeremiah 31:31-34, Isaiah 28:10,13-19, Ezekiel 36:23-27,29-31
The Old Covenant will not stand:Isaiah 28:13-19
The New law will be written in their Hearts:Jeremiah 31:33-34, Ezekiel 36:26
On a Tried stone will this Covenant be Made:Isaiah 28:16
This New Covenant will give the People a New Spirit:Ezekiel 36:26-27
The New Covenant will be of the Promise of Faith:Isaiah 28:16
The Whole Covenant that was the Book of the Covenant would be Fulfilled:Isaiah 28:15,17
____________________________________________ ________________________________

The First covenant that was the Law of the Covenant was by the Flesh. It was not of the spirit(Galatians 4:23,24,25,28,29; Romans 7:17,18,19,21,23,24,25; Galatians 6:7,8,12,13), nor was it by Faith(Galatians 3:12; Romans 3:28), nor salvation( Romans 3:20, Galatians 2:16), nor was it a law of life(Romans 8:2), nor even was it a law of Righteousness(Romans 10:5 Romans 3:21; Galatians 5:10,11), the Law of the Covenant was none of these things. The law was not after the Promise of Faith Given to Abraham, it was given only because of Transgressions and to provide the way for Christ to come and fulfill the Promise of Faith, in fulfilling this Promise he made an end of the Law, completing it.

Christ is the stone of the Foundation of the New Testament:Ephesians 2:19-22; Matt 16:17-18
The Stone which the Builders Refused is the Cornerstone: Psalm 118:22-23; Mark 12:10-11
Christ is the Stone the Builders Refused:Matt 21:41-46; Acts 4:8-12; 1 Peter 2:4-10; Romans 9:30-33
Christ is the Mediator of the New Testament:Hebrews 12:22-24, Hebrews 13:20-21, Hebrews 9:14-15, 1 Timothy 2:3-6, Hebrews 8:4-13, Hebrews 7:18-19,22-25, Hebrews 12:2, Matt 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20; Mark 14:22-24
New Covenant is the Law of Liberty:James 1:,21,22,25; James 2:8,9,10,11,12
New Covenant is the Law of Life:Romans 8:2; Galatians 6:2; John 14:6
New Covenant is the Law of Righteousness:Romans 10:6; Romans 9:30
New Covenant is the Law of Salvation:Ephesians 2:8; Acts 4:12; Acts 28:28; Romans 1:16
New Covenant is the Law of Spirit:Romans 8:2; Romans 7:6,12,14,15,16,22,25; Romans
8:1,4,14; Romans 8:9,10,11,13,16
New covenant is the Law of Faith:Romans 3:21,22,24,25,26,27; Galatians 2:16; Hebrews 11;
Christ Fulfilled the Whole Law of the Covenant:Hebrews 7:18-19,22; Luke 24:25-27, 44-49;
Hebrews 9:14-15; Hebrews 8:4-13; Acts 13:38-41; Romans 10:4; Matt 5:17-20; John 19:30;
Hebrews 12:2;2; Timothy 3:15, Hebrews 8:6-13
The New Covenant is After the Circumcision of the Heart and Spirit:Romans 2:28-29; Acts
15:7-9; Romans 10:8; Colossians 2:11-13; Philippians 3:3
Kingdom was taken from the Old testament Jews and Given to us:Matt 21:43; Romans
10:19,20; Acts 28:25-28
The Law of the Faith is the Promise of Abraham:Hebrews 11;Galatians 3;Romans 4(Reference)

New testament Law(Fulfillment of the Old)
Declared all the counsel of God(Acts 20:26-28)
Continued in Doctrine of the Apostles(Acts 2:42)
Hold Fast to the Doctrine(Titus 1:9)
Paul has Planted the word(2 Thess 3:6)
Hold Fast to the word and Tradtions we have been taught(2 Thess 2:14-17)
Doctrine of Christ(2 John 9-10)
Oberserve these things(2 Tim 5:21)
Be mindful of the words spoken by the prophets and the commandments of the Apostles and Christ(2 Peter 3:1-2, 15-18)
Keep the sound words given by Paul(1 Timohty 1:13-14)
Fully known the Doctrine, continue in things learned(2 Tim 3:10, 14-15)
Laws of God (Rom 13:2,9-10)
Stablish according to the Gospel and preaching of Christ(Romans 16:25-27)
Fully preached the Gospel of Christ(Romans 15:19,29)
Acknowledge things spoken as commandments of the Lord(1 Cor 14:37)
Gospel received by Revelation of Christ(Gal 1:6-12)
Christ the same today yesterday and tomorrow, so to is the word of God the same. (Hebrews 13:8-9)
Keep the Commandments given by Christ(John 14:21,23, Matt 28:20)
Holy word of God is of no private interpretation (2 Peter 1:20-21)

Allegories for the Book of the Covenant in the New Testament
(Frame of Reference)
Old Husband-Romans 7
Yoke of Bondage-Galatians 5;Acts 15:10
Law of Sin and Death-Romans 8, Romans 6
Bondwoman-Galatians 4
School Teacher-Galatians 3

Handwriting of Ordinances- Colossians 2:14; ,Hebrews 9:1; Hebrews 9:10,11,13,23-28;
Ephesians 2:15
Law of Moses- Luke 24:25-27, 44-48; Acts 13:39; Acts 15:5; Acts 28:23; Mark 12:26-27

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Galatians 3-Promise of Abraham(Law of Faith in Christ), And the Schoolteacher(Law of the
Covenant)
1. Cursed is every man who does not follow every law written in the Book of the law of the
Covenant(Galatians 3:10,12) that is why no man is justified by the law(Galatians 3:11). The just shall live by faith(Galatians 3:11,7-9), the law of Moses is not of faith(Galatians 3:12) wherefore we shall not live by the law which is without(Galatians 3:10,11,12,13,25), but live by the law which is of faith(Galatians 3:7,9,11). The blessing of Abraham that was by faith(Galatians 3:6,7,8,9,14) was given to us by promise(Galatians 3:8,14,16,22) the covenant that was the law, which came 430 years after could not disannul this promise(Galatians 3:17) for if our inheritance were to come by the law it would have made the promise of none effect(Galatians 3:18), but in Christ we know that promise was confirmed(Galatians 3:13,14,16,17) being made a curse for us he has redeemed us from the law(Galatians 3:11,13). The law was given because of transgressions (Galatians 3:19), until the seed of promise which is the Lord(Galatians 3:14,16) would come as a mediator(Galatians 3:19) of that promise(Galatians 3:,8,14,16,22,29). The Law of Moses was not against the promises of God(Galatians 3:21) but life could not come by the law(Galatians 3:21) so that before faith came we were kept under the law shut up in our faith(Galatians 3:23) by the law were the means to bring us unto Christ(Galatians 3:24) so that after faith had come by the promise which was christ(Galatians 3:13,14,16,17,22,24,26,29) we were no longer to be kept under the schoolmaster which was the mosaic law(Galatians 3:25) but instead are after the promise of faith which is the law of faith(Galatians 3:7-9,11,24,25;Romans 3:27).

Romans 3-The Righteousness of the Lord is manifested without the Law of Moses
2. In the sight of the Lord no flesh is justified by the deeds of the law of moses(Romans
3:19,20,27) being witnessed by the law and the prophets, the righteousness of the lord is
manifested without the law of moses(Romans 3:21,22,24,25) within the law of faith that we have received through christ(Romans 3:21,22,24,25,26,27), the law is not made void by our faith but is fulfilled by it(Romans 3:31).

Romans 4-The Promise of Faith that is not by the Law of the Covenant
3. The promise of Faith given to Abraham was not given to him by way of the law, but by
faith(Romans 4:3,5,6,7,9,11,12,13,16,20,21,22) that by the same promise of faith, which is
Christ, we are justified by the righteousness of our faith and not by the works of the law(Romans 4:23,24,25) for if they which are of the Law be Heirs, then faith is made void and the promise of faith along with it(Romans 4:14,15).

Galatians 4-The Bondwoman(Mosaic law) and the Free(Law of Faith)
4. When we were yet young we were held under teachers and schoolmasters(Galatians 4:2,3; Galatians 3:25) there was yet no difference between the child of the heir and the child of the servant(Galatians 4:1) but when the fullness of time had come God sent forth his son to redeem those kept under the law that they might be heirs, sons and daughters, with him through Christ (Galatians 4:4,5,6,7) we should not turn again to the bondage and the teachers that we were once under(Galatians 4:9,10,11;Galatians 5:1). There are two written after the allegory of the bondwoman and the free(Galatians 4:22,23,24) the child of the bondwoman was born after the flesh(Galatians 4:23,29) but the child of the freewoman was born after the promise to be received(Galatians 4:23,28). The First covenant which is bondwoman was that which was received at Sinai, the book of the covenant(Galatians 4:23,24) those who are the keepers of this first covenant are the child of the bondwoman(Galatians 4:25) the second covenant which is the freewoman was given by the Heavenly Jerusalem which is the mother of the free child(Galatians 4:26) we are as Isaac was, the children of promise, the children born of the freewoman(Galatians 4:27,28,31). The children of the flesh(bondwoman) that is to say the children of the book of the covenant persecute they which are the children born of the spirit(freewoman)(Galatians 4:29) . So just as before(Genesis 21:10) we must cast out the bondwoman, which is the book of the covenant (Galatians 4:23,24), and her son(those who keep the mosaic law)(Galatians 4:25) for they cannot be heirs with us who are the children of the freewoman(Galatians 4:30).

Galatians 5-Yoke of Bondage(Mosaic law)
5. Whosoever followeth the law of moses is a debtor to the whole law(Galatians 5:3,4;Galatians 3:10,12) and christ shall profit them nothing for he will become of no effect unto them who keep the law of the covenant(Galatians 5:2,4;Galatians 3:11;Romans 3:19,20,27) for if even a little of the leaven that is the law of the covenant be kept the whole lump(which is our body and soul) will be brought to sin(Galatians 5:7,8,9) but those who follow the spirit are not under the law of Moses(Galatians 5:1,14,18,24,25) but are after the promise of faith which is Christ (Galatians 5:5,6,18,24,25;Galatians 3:13,14,16,17,22,24,26,29).

Romans 7-Married to a New Husband
6. The law of the covenant hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth(Romans 7:1) just as a woman who is married to a man by law is bound to the husband as long as he liveth(Romans 7:2) that if a woman marry again while the first husband still lives she is in adultery(Romans 7:3). If the husband be dead the woman becomes loosed from the bond(Romans 7:2,3) and is free to marry another man and not be called an adulteress(Romans 7:2,3) in like manner also are we. For at first we were married to the law of the covenant(Romans 7:1) but so that we would not be in adultery we were made dead to the law of the covenant(Romans 7:4,6,8,9,10,11) by the body of Christ(Romans 7:4)by the which we could be married again to our New husband who is Christ(Romans 7:4). By this way we are delivered from the letter of the Law of the Covenant(Old Husband) which was after the Flesh(Romans 7:17,18,19,21,23,24,25) and put under that Spiritual law that came by Christ(New Husband)(Romans 7:6,12,14,15,16,22,25).
 
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Part 3
Galatians 2-Dead to the Law of the Covenant, By Our Faith in Christ
7. We are not to fall into the bondage of Circumcision which is by the law of the
covenant(Galatians 2:3,4,5). There is no flesh justified by the works of the law of
Moses(Galatians 2:16) if we now build again that which is of the law and keep it, that is to say put ourselves back into bondage, we become transgressors(Galatians 2:4,18) for if
righteousness came by the law then Christ died in vain(Galatians 2:21). Now we who are of
Christ are justified by our faith in Christ(Galatians 2:16) it is in this faith that we are dead to law by Christ(Galatians 2:19,20) through which now we also live by the faith which Is
Christ(Galatians 2:20).

Romans 8-Law of the Spirit, has made us free from the Law of Sin and Death
8. The Law of the covenant was weak by the flesh(Romans 8:3,1) and they that keep the law of the covenant are carnally minded(Romans 8:5,6,7), in so much that they are an eminity against God and cannot please him(Romans 8:6,7,8) for to be after the Flesh and the law of the Flesh is Death(the law of the Covenant is death)(Romans 8:6,13). The Law of the spirit of Life that is Christ has made us free from the Law of sin and death(Law of the Covenant which is of the Flesh)(Romans 8:2) that we who are of the Spirit walk not after the Flesh(Law of the Covenant) but after the spirit(Romans 8:1,4,14) are given a new spiritual mind not of the Flesh(Romans 8:5) in like manner also we are dead to Flesh by Christ, being raised up again in the Spirit(Romans 8:9,10,11,13,16,23) so that we will never again be put under the bondage that is in the law of the covenant(Galatians 5), nor yet even be put under the Spirit of Bondage that is by the Mosaic law(Romans 8:12,15,21). It is this Newness of Spirit, that comes not by the Law of the Covenant which is after the flesh(Romans 8:1,3,6,13; Romans 7:17,18,19,21,23,24,25), that we become the Children of God and Joint Heirs with Christ(Romans 7:16,17,21,23;Galatians 4:30) so we are now saved by the Hope and Promise of Faith which is Christ(Romans 8:24,25).

Romans 6-Freed from the Law of sin and Death, being Born again in the Spirit Through Christ
9. We who are of Christ are dead in Christ(Romans 6:3,4,5,8) that we may be raised in the
Newness of spirit,(Romans 6:4,5,8,10,11,13) our body of sin being destroyed, we are freed from sin(Romans 6:6,7) being made dead in the likeness of Christ, we are also made dead to sin(Romans 6:2,11,12,14,18,22). Those who are freed from sin are no Longer subject to the Law of the Covenant(Romans 6:14,15) but are now under grace(Romans 6:14,15). Now that we are made free from sin and the Law of Sin and Death(Romans 6:2,6,7,11,12,14,15,18,22; Romans 8:2) we should not again Yield ourselves to being servants of sin(Romans 6:16,13,20), but instead become the servants of righteousness(Romans 6:13,17,18,19,22) whose end is everlasting Life Through Christ(Romans 6:22,23).

Romans 10-Christ is the End of the Law
10. Those who have submitted themselves unto the Law of Faith, have become partakers of the Righteousness of Faith(Romans 10:3,6,10), Christ is the End of the Law(Law of the Covenant) for righteousness sake(Romans 10:4; Matt 3:15) those who have faith and believe on Christ will be saved(Romans 10:8,9,10,11,13,17). Those who seek to follow the Law of Moses, do so without the Knowledge of the Law of Faith(Romans 10:2,3), for the righteousness that was of the Law came by keeping the whole law(Romans 10:5; Galatians 5:3,4; Galatians 3:10,12; Romans 3:19,20,27) but since no man could keep the whole law(Galatians 2:16) Christ fulfilled the law putting an end to the righteousness that came by keeping every ordinance contained inside the Book of the Covenant(Romans 10:4;Romans 3:21,22,24,25).

Acts 13-Christ is the Fulfillment of the Law
11. Christ is the Fulfillment of the Promise of Faith after the Seed(Acts 13:22,23) John fulfilled what was foretold of him(Acts 13:24,25) the word of Salvation is sent to all peoples who fear God(Acts 13:26). By Denying Christ and persecuting him those who Sat in Moses's Seat fulfilled the words of the Prophets(Acts 13:27,28) once they had made an end of the things that were foretold to be done to Christ while he was yet living, they took him down from the Cross and buried him(Acts 13:29,30) then he raised himself from the grave(Acts 13:30,33-37;John 2:19-21 John 10:17-18). Now through Christ are we justified from the things contained within the Law of the Covenant(Acts 13:38-40).

Galatians 6-Law of Christ is not of the Flesh
12. We should not now reap the things that were after the Law of the Flesh(Galatians 6:7,8,12) for not even they who are of the Law of the Covenant, which is after the Flesh, keep the law (Galatians 6:13). The things of the Law are Carnal, of the Flesh(Galatians 6:7,8,12,13) we who are spiritual(Galatians 6:1,15) reap spiritual things(Galatians 6:7,8,9) after the Law of Christ(Galatians 6:2). Even in the time of the Apostles there were sects of people rising up who taught contrary to the doctrine of the apostles, teaching people that circumcision of the Flesh was necessary as was the keeping the Mosaic Law(Acts 15:5,7,8,9,10,11). The Lord did not break the covenant he completed it(Matt 5:17-20, Colossians 2:14-15) the lord did not alter the words that he spoke but brought them to fulfillment(Hebrews 12:2, John 19:30).

Strong’s Concordance-Greek-4137. Pléroó
I fill, fulfill, complete.- 2. to render full, i. e. to complete;- b. to perfect, consummate;- c. to carry into effect, bring to realization, realize; α. of matters of duty, to perform, execute:- accomplish, complete, fulfill. From pleres; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc. -- accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply)

Strong’s Concordance- Greek-5055. Teleó
T o bring to an end, complete, fulfill- 1. to bring to a close, to finish, to end: ἔτη, passive, passed, finished,- 2. to perform, execute, complete, fulfill- finish, accomplish From telos; to end, i.e. Complete, execute, conclude, discharge (a debt) -- accomplish, make an end, expire, fill up, finish,)
That is the very definition of the word fulfill.

Everything the Lord God YHWH says shall come to pass, when he said the Old covenant will
not stand(Jeremiah 31:31-34,Isaiah 28:13-19, Ezekiel 36:25-27,29-31), he meant it would not stand. When he said he would make a new covenant he meant just that, he would make a new covenant.

The Old covenant lasted forever,
Strong’s Concordance-Olam. 5769
Long time, time out of mind (past or future), i.e. (practically) eternity,)ancient time, lasting,
-more, of old), lasting, long (time), (of) old (time), ))

While the terms(Hebrew `ôlām or the Greek aiōn/aiōnios) may be translated “forever” or
“everlasting/eternal” in English, both the Hebrew and Greek words derive their length from the nature of the object described. Hebrew and Greek words had multiple meanings and only by comparing scripture with like scripture and looking at the full picture of what is being said, can we see the words true meaning.

The Book of the Covenant(Exodus 34:27; Exodus 24:7; 2 Kings 23:21; 2 Kings 23:2) was only for a time, that is why he said there was going to be a new covenant(Jeremiah 31:31-34, Isaiah 28:10,13-19, Ezekiel 36:23-27,29-31). That is why the book of law, written by the hand of Moses(Exodus 34:27; Nehemiah 9:13,14) was not placed inside the ark of the Covenant with the ten commandments that were written in stone by the finger of God Twice (Deuteronomy 10:2-5;Exodus 25:16; Exodus 31:16-18; Exodus 34:1), but were instead placed by the side of the ark( Deut 31:26) signifying that the book of law(the book of the covenant) was only for a time.
 
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