King of the norths threats

Douggg · Jul 26, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
So the 70th week of Daniel.......in the midst of the week he causes the sacrifice to cease and 1290 days later the abomination of desolation is set up. That's a week.......and then Jesus returns, and the wrath of God begins. This week is the tribulation. The time of Jacobs trouble. The wrath of God does NOT occur during the tribulation.

vials of Gods wrath - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, are poured out on the earth, before the armies of the world assemble to make war on Jesus in vial 6. So the wrath of God will be taking place during the great tribulation. Jesus returns to end the great tribulation, after the 7th vial is poured out on the earth.

Choose Wisely · Jul 26, 2018

Douggg said:
vials of Gods wrath - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, are poured out on the earth, before the armies of the world assemble to make war on Jesus in vial 6. So the wrath of God will be taking place during the great tribulation. Jesus returns to end the great tribulation, after the 7th vial is poured out on the earth.

I know that's what most people think.......but that's wrong.........and easily proven.

In the midst of the week he will cause the sacrifice to cease. This is the middle of the week.

1290 days later the abomination of desolation is set up. I think that's a week.

Then when the abomination of desolation is set up this happens.
Matthew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

And then the tribulation ends.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Which is shown in Rev 6
Rev 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

And then the wrath of God begins and the 7 trumpets of wrath happen. Tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins. Only the remnant in Israel goes through the wrath of God and they go to Petra.

shilohsfoal · Jul 27, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
You are confusing things.

The people of the prince destroy the city and the sanctuary. This is the third temple that is not built as of yet. We can prove that because because he causes the sacrifice to cease. That takes place in a Temple

Daniel 9
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

You might need this piece of information.
Daniel 11
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

You know he is the King of the North at one time........and yet we see this
Daniel 11
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind,

So we know he is a King of the North at one time and follows a raiser of taxes, who follows one whose daughter doesn't stand with him. This king will have a prince for his own behalf cause the reproach offered by him to cease.

We also know that the wrath of God begins after the abomination of desolation is set up, so the sacrifice is taken away one thousand two hundred and ninety days before the abomination of desolation is set up.

Daniel 12
1 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

So the 70th week of Daniel.......in the midst of the week he causes the sacrifice to cease and 1290 days later the abomination of desolation is set up. That's a week.......and then Jesus returns, and the wrath of God begins. This week is the tribulation. The time of Jacobs trouble. The wrath of God does NOT occur during the tribulation.

Now sometime after the wrath of God begins all nations come against Israel. That's when the Euphrates River dries up. So you say that China and Korea have no interest in destroying Israel and yet we see all nations come against Israel in the valley of Megiddon. This is Armageddon.

Zech 12
2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

This is probably too much for you to take in........but there you have it. All nations come against Israel at Armageddon.

The sacrifices Israelis make today are not performed in a temple.
In fact,they are not sacrifices to God.

shilohsfoal · Jul 27, 2018

In studying scripture one finds a milliatary comprised of gentiles occupying Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years prior to the war.It is there on behalf of the king of the north.During this time there will be a drought in the middle east that it doesnt rain.That milliatary is said to rule over manyduring this time.

Now if one reads the Islamic hadith, they find a military comprised of gentiles occupying israel .There will be a great drought in the land during that time.During that time that military is said to persecute the Muslims.The ruler of that military is said tone the dajal .Muslims are commanded to jihad against that military and destroy it and it is said Jesus will kill the dajal near the gate of Lud.
Is it said tat aftward all the world will convert to islam.

Now according to scripture,they do attack Jerusalem where the king of the norths milliatary is stationed during that time.And it iswritten that at that time the king of the north shall utterly destroy many nations.

http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm

You could say.These Muslim countries who attack Jerusalem do so because of what they are taught in the quran and hadith.They trust in a lie and that lie shall lead them to thier destruction.

Choose Wisely · Jul 27, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
The sacrifices Israelis make today are not performed in a temple.
In fact,they are not sacrifices to God.

They are going to build a new Temple and start sacrificing again. This has to be the case as there has to be a Temple for the abomination of desolation to be set up and the sacrifices are ceased by the prince that is to come.

Douggg · Jul 27, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
I know that's what most people think.......but that's wrong.........and easily proven.

In the midst of the week he will cause the sacrifice to cease. This is the middle of the week.

1290 days later the abomination of desolation is set up. I think that's a week.

The part I hightlighted in blue is your mistake.

DaDad · Jul 27, 2018

shilohsfoal] I've known the king of the north was the US president ...[/QUOTE] [QUOTE="shilohsfoal said:
Well.Its obvious you don't know.
You guess or you assume.
Dija know what happens when someone assumes?

Maybe someday you will learn to truth.

Perhaps we could start at 11:2 (or better yet, 10:1) and work our way through to the King of the South (and her "princes") and then to the King of the North.

... and I'm neither guessing nor am "assuming", I've done the research. The question is, Have You?
DaDad

DaDad · Jul 27, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
I agree with you. The United States is the King of the North. If that is so who do say is the King of the South?

It's interesting that you offer an opinion, on that which you haven't identified any of the other parties. As such, please allow that unless you know ALL the participants -- you probably don't know ANY of the participants.

Thanks,
DaDad

DaDad · Jul 27, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
Obama is the raiser of taxes who gave us obamacare(a tax)in Dan 11:20.

I always like it when people take a verse, any verse, and then without any context what-so-ever, declare it's purpose.

It's like a TREE, no it's like a WALL, no it's like a SNAKE ...

Thanks,
DaDad

Choose Wisely · Jul 27, 2018

DaDad said:
It's interesting that you offer an opinion, on that which you haven't identified any of the other parties. As such, please allow that unless you know ALL the participants -- you probably don't know ANY of the participants.j

Thanks,
DaDad

Hi DaDad, Love the name. Do you really believe that you can't know who one party is without knowing all the parties? That's some strange logic.

Choose Wisely · Jul 27, 2018

Douggg said:
The part I hightlighted in blue is your mistake.

I said..........
In the midst of the week he will cause the sacrifice to cease. This is the middle of the week.
1290 days later the abomination of desolation is set up. I think that's a week.

There's the scripture that says from the time the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Daniel 12
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

So if the daily sacrifice is taken away in the middle of the week and the abomination of desolation is set up 1290 days later, that another half a week............add the two halves together and that should be a week.

shilohsfoal · Jul 27, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
They are going to build a new Temple and start sacrificing again. This has to be the case as there has to be a Temple for the abomination of desolation to be set up and the sacrifices are ceased by the prince that is to come.

No.The sacrifices they make today shall cease.But youdont know what sacrifices they make nor do you know who they make them too.

shilohsfoal · Jul 27, 2018

DaDad said:
Perhaps we could start at 11:2 (or better yet, 10:1) and work our way through to the King of the South (and her "princes") and then to the King of the North.

... and I'm neither guessing nor am I an a55, I've done the research. The question is, Have You?
DaDad

Daniel 11 was written as the Jews were returning from exile .
It started being fulfilled as the Jews were returning from exile .

shilohsfoal · Jul 27, 2018

DaDad said:
I always like it when people take a verse, any verse, and then without any context what-so-ever, declare it's purpose.

It's like a TREE, no it's like a WALL, no it's like a SNAKE ...

Thanks,
DaDad

That one verse is surrounded by several other verses.Together they tell a story.

DaDad · Jul 27, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
Hi DaDad, Love the name. Do you really believe that you can't know who one party is without knowing all the parties? That's some strange logic.

Perhaps you don't know the rest of the participants, because you don't know the rest of anything. Perhaps you should start at the beginning and then ARRIVE to your premise, rather than your short-cut version.

Thanks,
DaDad

DaDad · Jul 27, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
That one verse is surrounded by several other verses.Together they tell a story.

Ya got a whole Chapter IN CHRONOLOGICAL CONTEXT. Keep it that way!

Thanks,
DaDad

Choose Wisely · Jul 27, 2018

DaDad said:
Perhaps you don't know the rest of the participants, because you don't know the rest of anything. Perhaps you should start at the beginning and then ARRIVE to your premise, rather than your short-cut version.

Thanks,
DaDad

Well DaDad, Perhaps, and likely so, I know the participants. I was just checking to see if he knew them. And of course, he didn't. He thought they were talking about Iran because the king of the south comes against the king of the north twice before end times. I got a feeling you may be a little short in the participant department. Maybe this will help.
Daniel 11
14 And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.

DaDad · Jul 27, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
Daniel 11 was written as the Jews were returning from exile .
It started being fulfilled as the Jews were returning from exile .

Your premise defies the angelic instructions:

Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. ...
Daniel 12:9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.

Now I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem that ~325BC is the "time of the end". A better date might be 1948, but that's too obvious ...

Thanks,
DaDad

DaDad · Jul 27, 2018

Choose Wisely said:
Well DaDad, Perhaps, and likely so, I know the participants. I was just checking to see if he knew them. And of course, he didn't. He thought they were talking about Iran because the king of the south comes against the king of the north twice before end times. I got a feeling you may be a little short in the participant department. Maybe this will help.
Daniel 11
14 And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.

I know exactly who this applies to, and IT'S IN CONTEXT with the REST OF THE CHAPTER. And if you are familiar with modern history, you might start there!

Thanks,
DaDad

shilohsfoal · Jul 28, 2018

DaDad said:
Your premise defies the angelic instructions:

Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. ...
Daniel 12:9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.

Now I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem that ~325BC is the "time of the end". A better date might be 1948, but that's too obvious ...

Thanks,
DaDad

The Jews started returning from exile in the 1930s?
Many started pouring in in the 40s.
They formed a government and declared thier independence in 1948.

The kingdom being devided up was great Britain .

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