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I get the whole view that a Christian should write only about things that are good, nice, edifying, and whatnot.

To me, the creative arts are meant to have an effect on people. To entertain, yes, but also to maybe make them see things a bit differently. And I don’t think I’m doing any good for anyone if I present them with a whitewashed world where no one ever swears, drinks, has sex, uses violence, etc. That would be a fantasy world.

You could even argue that it robs God of His redemptive power, if the world is not presented as the depraved mess that it is. A safe, family-friendly world does not need an all-powerful God to save it. But ours does, and badly.

My goal is to write stories that tell the truth, and the whole truth. Which is a bright, optimistic truth, in reality. We are in a depraved world that is currently ruled by the devil, but we have a great God who is saving us. We were lost in a world of evil, but the Lord redeemed us.

We need the ugliness of the world to fully appreciate our redemption. I believe that. I also think stories should have “teeth” as I call it... be a little bit dangerous, maybe make people a little bit uncomfortable or afraid. An accurate reflection of life, basically. The “realness” of the evil can help you feel the “realness” of the good. Yeah, that’s a word...

Anyway, God and His people have never whitewashed the ugliness of the world. The Bible records just about every kind of ugly thing that can be done... not for the sake of shock or thrills, but to show where evil leads us and, by contrast, what good can do for us. One of the main reasons God sent prophets was to cry out against the evil in the world. John the Baptist called certain religious people snakes! And Jesus criticized many of them too.

The point of this spiel is, I can write stories that glorify God. And I can do it pretty well. But I need to utilize the darkness as well as the light. It is a tool, of course. I hate bad language; I get upset when I even hear a “bleep”... but when my characters swear, I can see where it makes sense to them. I won’t get physical with a woman before marriage... but I can see where my characters might want to give in to that. And so on...

Writing fiction has a lot to do with putting yourself in another person’s head, a fictional person. And I’m good at that. Some of them may be saved, some not. Swearing, drinking, drugs, sex, violence... it’s not a reflection on me. I’m reflecting what I see in the world. It’s not good... but God is.
 

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I love a book that takes me into a world where I can escape the ungodly influences that tug on my soul at each turn; into a place marked by the holy evidences of redemption; a story which arouses the new man and inspires me to put off the old. Much like a Sunday sabbath surrounded by people who love the Lord and strive after holiness.
 
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I'm a Christian who writes, and even if most of my stories aren't specifically Christian (though I do put religious references in here and there) I keep them clean; free from swearing, adult content, blood, intense violence (I just use more cartoonish violence), etc. It may not be realistic, but it's what I like and prefer.

Since I don't like those things, I won't read a story containing them and I feel that I could never put them in one of my stories. But for me, I write fantasy stories so realism doesn't matter, I just want it to be interesting and creative. To me it would feel like I was using swear words myself if I put them in my stories, which I would never do as I despise them.

I guess everyone has different opinions, but as for me I prefer morality over realism.
 
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You could even argue that it robs God of His redemptive power, if the world is not presented as the depraved mess that it is.
It has become that depraved mess because of the spell-casting of media arts - doing what fiction has done all along, but getting into the minds of all people great and small.

(When I say spell casting, I recognise that words change minds, and that words which encourage sinful thoughts are effectively putting the mind into a mode of thinking that opposes what The Holy Spirit wants them to think. By doing this, the one who is leading the mind (the story teller/spell caster) is encouraging the person to abandon The Holy Spirit and yielding their mind to demonic influence. Hence, some of those demons work the flesh to crave continuously for the depraved thought pattern, and there are people who are walking around constantly dead in their trespasses and sin.
Writing fiction has a lot to do with putting yourself in another person’s head, a fictional person. And I’m good at that. Some of them may be saved, some not. Swearing, drinking, drugs, sex, violence... it’s not a reflection on me. I’m reflecting what I see in the world. It’s not good... but God is.
By your words you will be acquitted and condemned.
 
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I used to dance and putting on a character is fun . Lola from Barry manilow’s old hit Copacabana was fun to dance . Aging and traumatized female alcoholic isn’t a fun lifestyle but how do you dance that character? Ask any opera singer about Carmen (who was a real piece of work) . Or a ballerina about Manon and a male dancer about James from La sylphide. Or Elton John writing about and puzzling over the street people around him in Saturday Night’s Alright for Fighting
By the way these all are on YouTube,the opera and ballets are full length. The opera has the English translation as Carmen is in French . I agree with the OP ,some art is about life and life isn’t always pleasant.
 
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I understand some people won’t want to read what I write. That’s to be expected.

I suppose I can put myself in an unsaved person’s head, because I was unsaved for many years. I became accustomed to the lifestyle, even though I never felt completely comfortable with parts of it.

Perhaps God wanted me to use that experience. A story can be a subtle yet effective way to teach people.
 
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I understand some people won’t want to read what I write. That’s to be expected.

I suppose I can put myself in an unsaved person’s head, because I was unsaved for many years. I became accustomed to the lifestyle, even though I never felt completely comfortable with parts of it.

Perhaps God wanted me to use that experience. A story can be a subtle yet effective way to teach people.
My main concern is what new evil are you putting in the reader's mind that wasn't there before? Consider why parents won't let children watch some movies - because the child's mind doesn't conceive of anything evil (violence, sex, filthy language) - those things all come from exposure to corrupting media.
 
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My main concern is what new evil are you putting in the reader's mind that wasn't there before? Consider why parents won't let children watch some movies - because the child's mind doesn't conceive of anything evil (violence, sex, filthy language) - those things all come from exposure to corrupting media.
Most people are aware of the things I’ve mentioned... if they wanted to do them, I’d think they’d be doing them already. I write for adults, not children or teenagers.
 
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Most people are aware of the things I’ve mentioned... if they wanted to do them, I’d think they’d be doing them already. I write for adults, not children or teenagers.
Well, you go your way then :) those themes you mentioned I would rather not have in my world :wave:
 
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Well, you go your way then :) those themes you mentioned I would rather not have in my world :wave:
Sure. They’re not in your world because you choose not to have them there. People who want it, choose it. They don’t just fall into a certain behavior because they read a book where it happened.
 
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They don’t just fall into a certain behavior because they read a book where it happened.
This isn't true. We are born pure. The world corrupts us with it's evil. If you want to exercise evil thoughts after I have told you that it isn't welcome in my world, you can go to where that leads. You have no part with me. (wipes feet on door - let your filth remain with you). Good day :wave:
 
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This might be why writers have pen names; some people cannot separate fiction from reality. You can write murder mysteries and not be a murderer. You can write about alcoholics and detest alcohol. It’s storytelling. It’s about introducing darkness so that the light can come and conquer it.
 
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This might be why writers have pen names; some people cannot separate fiction from reality. You can write murder mysteries and not be a murderer. You can write about alcoholics and detest alcohol. It’s storytelling. It’s about introducing darkness so that the light can come and conquer it.
You are living in deception now. I did warn you.
 
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My main concern is what new evil are you putting in the reader's mind that wasn't there before? Consider why parents won't let children watch some movies - because the child's mind doesn't conceive of anything evil (violence, sex, filthy language) - those things all come from exposure to corrupting media.
I didn’t censor mine after the were about 10 as I figured they’d just watch it over a friends house. I did discuss movies with them and they actually watched those Halloween movies . I hate movies like that and still haven’t watched it but that’s a personal thing . I wouldn’t tell someone else to change their likes and dislikes because I don’t like it. Growing up acting like one of Ned Flanders kids isn’t a nice thing to do to your children and that naïveté puts them in danger of being exploited and abused
 
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I didn’t censor mine after the were about 10 as I figured they’d just watch it over a friends house. I did discuss movies with them and they actually watched those Halloween movies . I hate movies like that and still haven’t watched it but that’s a personal thing . I wouldn’t tell someone else to change their likes and dislikes because I don’t like it
Luke 6:43. I would be wild if any person did that to my child.
 
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The Bible says man born of a woman is but a few days and full of trouble. Doesn’t sound to me like he’s born pure. In fact Job makes several references to man born of a woman... that he is neither clean nor righteous.
I did a lot of work on that this week on this thread, and am satisfied so far to find that the idea of children being born sinful is not supported by scripture. This is why I promote the finding with such force.

I have seen children in severe torment owing to that doctrine because it is a demon that takes hold of their parents when they choose to believe that their child is doing evil of it's own making, instead of understanding what the parent is doing wrong toward the child.

What I have found through your offer of Job 14:1, Job 15:14, Job 25:4, is all consistent with the concept of human beginning as a child, being tempted to fall before becoming accountable for their sin, and then forever having been marred as a result.

I have not yet found anything in scripture that supports the view that a child is born sinful, and I suspect that is because the bible writers didn't have that belief at the time. They must have observed that a child comes from the womb not knowing even one thing to begin with, and thereafter all of his knowledge of good and evil and his philosophy of behaviour comes from what he learns through how the world interacts with him.
 
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