Just because something has become socially acceptable does not mean it will be acceptable before God

Tanj said:

Except when what is to be obeyed is defined by legalism.

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If it is "defined by legalism," then should it actually be obeyed?

God is NOT a legalist.

Dave-W said:

If it is "defined by legalism," then should it actually be obeyed?

God is NOT a legalist.

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Never said he was. It's the people claiming they know what he wants obeyed that are.

Dave-W said:

God is NOT a legalist.

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Except when He is…

Aryeh Jay said:

Except when He is…

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Which is never.

God is all about relationship. Legalism is the opposite of relational.

Tanj said:

Never said he was. It's the people claiming they know what he wants obeyed that are.

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What those people miss is that God is not about an abstract standard which (depending on how stringent it is) can be kept devoid of any kind of relationship. That is NOT God.

Dave-W said:

Which is never.

God is all about relationship. Legalism is the opposite of relational.

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Numbers 15:32-36

32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.

Aryeh Jay said:

Numbers 15:32-36

32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.

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Yeah???

The guy rejected God as Lord over him. That is relational.

cfyahoo08 said:

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How can we help society become the best society it can be in light of the drift away from what is acceptable before God ?

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one thing that is different is the amt of kids going into daycare at young ages (all day daycare)
kids learning from their peers at daycares as opposed to parents has been proven to make kids more aggressive

teachers really have it tough these days

Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O Lord, my rock and my Redeemer.

Proverbs 10:32
The lips of the righteous bring forth what is acceptable, But the mouth of the wicked what is perverted.

Romans 12:1-2 [ Dedicated Service ]
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship.And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.

Hebrews 12:28
Therefore, since we receive a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us show gratitude, by which we may offer to God an acceptable service with reverence and awe;

1 Peter 2:5
you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Dave-W said:

Yeah - it will. For about a thousand years ...

For now. his days are numbered.

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We are not of this world, or we aren't supposed to be.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

As written , the world loves its own. (not a good thing, btw, except to expose why God is rejected, letting people know the truth, if they are willing, so they can be set free).

The world, all society, is more atheists than Godly.
Naturally atheists prefer the world, it makes them more comfortable and lets them go on without ever becoming alive in Christ, just wallowing in sin and dying apart from Christ.
With all the new technology, this happens more and more , as written "the wicked become more wicked" and again "the whole world refuses to repent of serving demons"...
so the atheists love the world, the world loves the atheists, and they die together.

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I am an atheist, so what exactly do you believe I am wallowing in? Please be specific.

cfyahoo08 said:

So many things over the last 100 years have become acceptable before society, that have not ever been acceptable before God. The once revered is now blasphemed. I believe God wants us all happy and to be of Good Cheer, he does not want us to be somber unhappy grumps that make the lives of those around us miserable.

How can we help society become the best society it can be in light of the drift away from what is acceptable before God ?

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1791 was considerably more than 100 years ago.

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I am an atheist, so what exactly do you believe I am wallowing in? Please be specific..

1. Self / sin nature
2. world Chaos
3. spiritual evil

1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.

dreadnought said:

We are not of this world, or we aren't supposed to be.

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The only people I is see that even try to follow that are the Amish that live all around me.

yea the middle ages were bad.....
the days of noah were wicked continually.....
sodom and gomorah were so wicked God woudnt wait tell they died to send them to hell He sent hell to them while they were still alive...
jude 1:7
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

yes sin is much more rapant on this earth in the last 100 years...

but there is always a remnant of believers........
matthew 24
“when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,..... will be preached in the whole as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.

That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Ron Gurley said:

Response to Post 31:
I am an atheist, so what exactly do you believe I am wallowing in? Please be specific..

1. Self / sin nature
2. world Chaos
3. spiritual evil

1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.

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Perhaps you would like to expand on those three things you say I am guilty of wallowing in?
As they stand, it just looks like rather childish name calling to me.