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Basically, I am creating this thread because I can't figure out where I am going wrong. I feel like the fruit of the spirit is not as evident as it should be in my life, like more fruit is not being produced, and this is something that should serve as evidence for where a person is with God and whether they are in Christ or not. I must confess also that I sometimes have outbursts of anger. I'm not sure if I need more deliverance, it's something I could get with my pastor on. I know it's not enough to study the scriptures daily, to go to church Sundays and Wednesdays, to tithe, to do all these things that Christians do. I may not be fit to teach, I may not be fit to do a lot of the things that weigh a Christian down with responsibility. I don't know.

I can study all day long but what's the point if I don't write them in my heart and apply them in the daily? I don't feel much different from when I didn't study religiously or have zeal for these things. It's simply more knowledge, and that's it. Of what benefit is that? I'd rather be ignorant of the scriptures and bearing the fruit thereof than being knowledgeable of the scriptures and have little to show for it. It's a searing reminder of 1 Corinthians 13 when I recognize this about myself.

But then I wonder, are these just feelings? And then I say, well what are the fruit of the spirit? Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. Hmm. Love - My relationship with my wife isn't where I want it to be, I seem to care more about others' salvation than I care about the person. I'm not very joyful, I'm actually quite negative and the only thing that get's me fired up is deeper fellowship or leading someone to Christ - just seeing God move. I'm very patient. I feel like I'm a nice person overall. Idk about goodness really. I am faithful as far as belief in Christ and the bible is concerned, and in my marriage. I'm not the most gentle creature, a little rough around the edges at times... And self control... Hmm I need to think about that one for a bit.

I can't say I have really matured in any of these things since attempting to rededicate myself to the Christian lifestyle. I guess what I'm wondering is how do we experience God on a day to day basis? I mean I believe I do, especially I did at church Wednesday night during praise and worship after choir practice. I don't know, I just feel like I'm missing something.

Last night I imagined what it would be like to live in the times that Jesus walked upon this earth. I imagined myself crossing paths with Jesus. I would think He would allow me to cross paths because I love Him and would want to see Him and He loves me. I imagined whether I would follow Him or not, and I would! I would drop my job and my mortgage to follow Him! But He would probably tell me to go home because I am a married man and need to take care of my wife. And I would be sad because I wouldn't be able to stay with Him and be a part of His ministry.

Maybe this is just a rant, I'm not sure. Anyways, thanks I guess for reading, I just want to bear those fruits. I want to be a person that people can say, "Now there's a GOOD Christian."
 

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Basically, I am creating this thread because I can't figure out where I am going wrong. I feel like the fruit of the spirit is not as evident as it should be in my life, like more fruit is not being produced, and this is something that should serve as evidence for where a person is with God and whether they are in Christ or not. I must confess also that I sometimes have outbursts of anger. I'm not sure if I need more deliverance, it's something I could get with my pastor on. I know it's not enough to study the scriptures daily, to go to church Sundays and Wednesdays, to tithe, to do all these things that Christians do. I may not be fit to teach, I may not be fit to do a lot of the things that weigh a Christian down with responsibility. I don't know.

I can study all day long but what's the point if I don't write them in my heart and apply them in the daily? I don't feel much different from when I didn't study religiously or have zeal for these things. It's simply more knowledge, and that's it. Of what benefit is that? I'd rather be ignorant of the scriptures and bearing the fruit thereof than being knowledgeable of the scriptures and have little to show for it. It's a searing reminder of 1 Corinthians 13 when I recognize this about myself.

But then I wonder, are these just feelings? And then I say, well what are the fruit of the spirit? Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. Hmm. Love - My relationship with my wife isn't where I want it to be, I seem to care more about others' salvation than I care about the person. I'm not very joyful, I'm actually quite negative and the only thing that get's me fired up is deeper fellowship or leading someone to Christ - just seeing God move. I'm very patient. I feel like I'm a nice person overall. Idk about goodness really. I am faithful as far as belief in Christ and the bible is concerned, and in my marriage. I'm not the most gentle creature, a little rough around the edges at times... And self control... Hmm I need to think about that one for a bit.

I can't say I have really matured in any of these things since attempting to rededicate myself to the Christian lifestyle. I guess what I'm wondering is how do we experience God on a day to day basis? I mean I believe I do, especially I did at church Wednesday night during praise and worship after choir practice. I don't know, I just feel like I'm missing something.

Last night I imagined what it would be like to live in the times that Jesus walked upon this earth. I imagined myself crossing paths with Jesus. I would think He would allow me to cross paths because I love Him and would want to see Him and He loves me. I imagined whether I would follow Him or not, and I would! I would drop my job and my mortgage to follow Him! But He would probably tell me to go home because I am a married man and need to take care of my wife. And I would be sad because I wouldn't be able to stay with Him and be a part of His ministry.

Maybe this is just a rant, I'm not sure. Anyways, thanks I guess for reading, I just want to bear those fruits. I want to be a person that people can say, "Now there's a GOOD Christian."
I want to be a person that people can say, "Now there's a GOOD Christian.

Brother brother brother, we gotta talk.
 
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Basically, I am creating this thread because I can't figure out where I am going wrong. I feel like the fruit of the spirit is not as evident as it should be in my life, like more fruit is not being produced, and this is something that should serve as evidence for where a person is with God and whether they are in Christ or not. I must confess also that I sometimes have outbursts of anger. I'm not sure if I need more deliverance, it's something I could get with my pastor on. I know it's not enough to study the scriptures daily, to go to church Sundays and Wednesdays, to tithe, to do all these things that Christians do. I may not be fit to teach, I may not be fit to do a lot of the things that weigh a Christian down with responsibility. I don't know.

I can study all day long but what's the point if I don't write them in my heart and apply them in the daily? I don't feel much different from when I didn't study religiously or have zeal for these things. It's simply more knowledge, and that's it. Of what benefit is that? I'd rather be ignorant of the scriptures and bearing the fruit thereof than being knowledgeable of the scriptures and have little to show for it. It's a searing reminder of 1 Corinthians 13 when I recognize this about myself.

But then I wonder, are these just feelings? And then I say, well what are the fruit of the spirit? Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. Hmm. Love - My relationship with my wife isn't where I want it to be, I seem to care more about others' salvation than I care about the person. I'm not very joyful, I'm actually quite negative and the only thing that get's me fired up is deeper fellowship or leading someone to Christ - just seeing God move. I'm very patient. I feel like I'm a nice person overall. Idk about goodness really. I am faithful as far as belief in Christ and the bible is concerned, and in my marriage. I'm not the most gentle creature, a little rough around the edges at times... And self control... Hmm I need to think about that one for a bit.

I can't say I have really matured in any of these things since attempting to rededicate myself to the Christian lifestyle. I guess what I'm wondering is how do we experience God on a day to day basis? I mean I believe I do, especially I did at church Wednesday night during praise and worship after choir practice. I don't know, I just feel like I'm missing something.

Last night I imagined what it would be like to live in the times that Jesus walked upon this earth. I imagined myself crossing paths with Jesus. I would think He would allow me to cross paths because I love Him and would want to see Him and He loves me. I imagined whether I would follow Him or not, and I would! I would drop my job and my mortgage to follow Him! But He would probably tell me to go home because I am a married man and need to take care of my wife. And I would be sad because I wouldn't be able to stay with Him and be a part of His ministry.

Maybe this is just a rant, I'm not sure. Anyways, thanks I guess for reading, I just want to bear those fruits. I want to be a person that people can say, "Now there's a GOOD Christian."


You're in good company my friend. You won't meet a more dense, lacking in common sense, and all around idiot than yours truly.
 
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Talk to me brinny :)

Hahahaaaa ok.....well it's what you said about being seen by "men" to be a "good" Christian.

Do you know where i'm going with this?
 
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Hahahaaaa ok.....well it's what you said about being seen by "men" to be a "good" Christian.

Do you know where i'm going with this?


I feel pretty proud of myself knowing which passage you're referring to lol.
 
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Hahahaaaa ok.....well it's what you said about being seen by "men" to be a "good" Christian.

Do you know where i'm going with this?

I do. And let me assure you, it's not that I care what they think but why they would.
 
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I do. And let me assure you, it's not that I care what they think but why they would.

I think i know what you mean by that, yet....who is it are we to please?
 
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I think i know what you mean by that, yet....who is it are we are to please?

The Lord our God :)

Proverbs 3

1My child, never forget the things I have taught you. Store my commands in your heart.

2If you do this, you will live many years, and your life will be satisfying.

3Never let loyalty and kindness leave you! Tie them around your neck as a reminder. Write them deep within your heart.

4Then you will find favor with both God and people, and you will earn a good reputation

I love this chapter.
 
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The Lord our God :)

Proverbs 3

1My child, never forget the things I have taught you. Store my commands in your heart.

2If you do this, you will live many years, and your life will be satisfying.

3Never let loyalty and kindness leave you! Tie them around your neck as a reminder. Write them deep within your heart.

4Then you will find favor with both God and people, and you will earn a good reputation

I love this chapter.


Thats one of my favorites too
 
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The Lord our God :)

Proverbs 3

1My child, never forget the things I have taught you. Store my commands in your heart.

2If you do this, you will live many years, and your life will be satisfying.

3Never let loyalty and kindness leave you! Tie them around your neck as a reminder. Write them deep within your heart.

4Then you will find favor with both God and people, and you will earn a good reputation

I love this chapter.

I agree.

Wunnerful words.

What this thread brings to mind is the "fear of God" vs the "fear of man".

We can be tyrannized by "fear of man" or giving too much credence to what they think about this or that.
 
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Just casually observing here but how is God going to manifest himself through you with all those I My Me's in there. But then too I like to point to Job, because Job was a faithful servant but had to endure huge trials. In the end God appears and sets him straight, Job realizes we live under an all powerful God, we are nothing in comparison and admits that to God. God blesses Job. But how ? To go live life and to live it more abundantly than before..

Stop striving ! Acknowledge God in all that you do, rest in His promises and if He needs you He will make it abundantly clear believe me. Meanwhile trust Him, Love Him and open your heart to Him.

edit: And thank Him.
 
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Just casually observing here but how is God going to manifest himself through you with all those I My Me's in there.
Stop striving ! Acknowledge God in all that you do, rest in His promises and if He needs you He will make it abundantly clear believe me. Meanwhile trust Him, Love Him and open your heart to Him.

edit: And thank Him.

You're right. I'm just really sensitive. I've been that way since I was a child. I know at heart I do not wish to keep any of the glory that belongs to God. Maybe I don't give Him credit enough of the time. I tend to put the cart before the horse.

I am going to try what you said - acknowledge Him in all my ways. I already see the peace that gives.
 
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You're right. I'm just really sensitive. I've been that way since I was a child. I know at heart I do not wish to keep any of the glory that belongs to God. Maybe I don't give Him credit enough of the time. I tend to put the cart before the horse.

I am going to try what you said - acknowledge Him in all my ways. I already see the peace that gives.
He is always at hand.
 
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I keep forgetting the pic thing isn't working. I will 2nd what Dave said and acknowledge God in everything you do. He is doing a mighty work through you and sometimes it is hard to understand where He is going, But He knows and we can always count on it being righteous :]
Do not place to much on yourself friend, You are only human too. We all have fallen short of the glory and it is only by His grace :]
 
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Ghandi read from the New Testament daily, and often cited verses while doing his work.

When asked why he never converted, he replied, "If I ever meet a real Christian, I would."

Thank you for undergoing such a noble task & inspiring the rest of us to do the same!

God be with you.
 
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Oh, and being a perfect Christian isn't going to happen. Sorry. It just doesn't.

Micah 6:8
 
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