Captivity and sword Luke 21:24 Revelation 13:10

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 16, 2018

keras said:
I won't vote as these two verses are about different events:
Luke's is about the Roman conquest in 70-135 AD.

Rev 13:10 refers to all the Christians who must endure all that will happen and stand strong in their faith until Jesus Returns.

Look very closely at these verses and tell me, after reading them, you still think Luke 21 is a different event than Matt 24 and Mk 13.
If Lk 21 is about the Roman conquest in 70 ad, then so is Revelation!

Matthew 24:
32 ‘And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile:
When already its branch may have become tender, and the leaves it may put forth, ye know that summer [is] nigh,
33 so also ye, when ye may see all these, ye know that it is nigh — at the doors.
Mark 13:
28 ‘And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile:
when the branch may already become tender, and may put forth the leaves, ye know that nigh is the summer;
29 so ye, also, when these ye may see coming to pass, ye know that it is nigh, at the doors.

What is nigh at the doors? The Kingdom of God!

Luke 21:
29 And he spake a simile to them: ‘See the fig-tree, and all the trees,
30 when they may now cast forth, having seen, of yourselves ye know that now is the summer nigh;
31 Thus also ye whenever ye may be seeing these-things becoming ye are knowing that nigh/egguV <1451> is the Kingdom of the God.

Revelation 1:3
Happy the one reading/ana-ginwskwn <314> (5723) and the ones hearing the words of the prophecy and keepings the in it having been written
for the time nigh/egguV <1451>.

Revelation 6:13
and the stars of the heaven fell to the land — as a fig-tree doth cast the ruined-ones of it by a great wind being shaken

shilohsfoal · Jul 16, 2018

LittleLambofJesus said:
Look very closely at these verses and tell me, that after reading them, you still think Lke 21 is a different event than Matt 24 and Mk 13.
If Lk 21 is about the Roman conquest in 70 ad, then so is Revelation!

Matthew 24:
32 ‘And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile:
When already its branch may have become tender, and the leaves it may put forth, ye know that summer [is] nigh,
33 so also ye, when ye may see all these, ye know that it is nigh — at the doors.
Mark 13:
28 ‘And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile:
when the branch may already become tender, and may put forth the leaves, ye know that nigh is the summer;
29 so ye, also, when these ye may see coming to pass, ye know that it is nigh, at the doors.

What is nigh at the doors? The Kingdom of God!

Luke 21:
29 And he spake a simile to them: ‘See the fig-tree, and all the trees,
30 when they may now cast forth, having seen, of yourselves ye know that now is the summer nigh;
31 Thus also ye whenever ye may be seeing these-things becoming ye are knowing that nigh/egguV <1451> is the Kingdom of the God.

Revelation 1:3
Happy the one reading/ana-ginwskwn <314> (5723) and the ones hearing the words of the prophecy and keepings the in it having been written
for the time nigh/egguV <1451>.

Revelation 6:13
and the stars of the heaven fell to the land — as a fig-tree doth cast the ruined-ones of it by a great wind being shaken

It wasn't till the 20t century thatman hasbeen able to make the heavens depart from the earth as a scroll being rolled together.
When the son of destruction makes the stars of heaven fall unto the earth and theheavens depart from the earth as scroll being rolled together ,then you will know the abomination that causes desolation has been placed.

keras · Jul 17, 2018

LittleLambofJesus said:
Look very closely at these verses and tell me, that after reading them, you still think Lke 21 is a different event than Matt 24 and Mk 13.
If Lk 21 is about the Roman conquest in 70 ad, then so is Revelation!

No, I totally disagree.
Revelation was written after 70 AD; circa 95 AD. Luke warns the Christians to escape when the Romans attack, Rev. warns the Christians to stand firm in their faith, during the Great Trib.

BTW; Machaerus is Greek for 'sword'. It is the name of the fort where Herod decapitated John the Baptist. I have been there and have a photo of McKerras, holding a machaerus at Machaerus. My Scottish surname is pronounced exactly as the Greek word is.

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 17, 2018

keras said:
No, I totally disagree.
Revelation was written after 70 AD; circa 95 AD. Luke warns the Christians to escape when the Romans attack, Rev. warns the Christians to stand firm in their faith, during the Great Trib.

BTW; Machaerus is Greek for 'sword'. It is the name of the fort where Herod decapitated John the Baptist. I have been there and have a photo of McKerras, holding a machaerus at Machaerus. My Scottish surname is pronounced exactly as the Greek word is.

Very interesting.
There is also another greek word used for sword:

4501. rhomphaia hrom-fah'-yah probably of foreign origin; a sabre, i.e. a long and broad cutlass (any weapon of the kind, literally or figuratively):--sword.
Strong's Number G4501 matches the Greek ῥομφαία (rhomphaia), which occurs 7 times in 7 verses

Used only 1 time outside of Revelation:

KJV concordance)
Luke 2:35 Luk 2:35
(Yea, a sword G4501 shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

Revelation 1:16
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword/ G4501 and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Revelation 2:
12
And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword G4501 with two edges;
16
Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword G4501 of my mouth.

Revelation 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was death, and hell followed with him.
And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, G4501 and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Revelation 19:15
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, G4501 that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall shepherd them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Revelation 19:21
And the remnant were slain with the sword G4501 of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

keras · Jul 17, 2018

LittleLambofJesus said:
Very interesting.
There is also another greek word used for sword:

A 'machaerus' is a single edged sword. That'll do me, Jesus will use the double edged one.

shilohsfoal said:
It wasn't till the 20t century thatman hasbeen able to make the heavens depart from the earth as a scroll being rolled together.

The event where the sky will be pushed away, is the Lord's Day of wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster. Man can't do it; nukes don't roll aside the atmosphere. Isaiah 34:4 repeats this event, instigated by the Lord.
Science and astronomy know what it is that can cause all the prophesied cosmic and earthly effects and Isaiah 30:26a plainly says it will be the sun that causes it all to happen.

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 17, 2018

HTacianas said:
That was me. Admittedly, I didn't look into the details first, but I share your preterist view of the warnings regarding the temple.

I wish we could all have a reasonable discussion of the Revelation and -as I have seen you do before- contrast it with the accounts of Josephus.

LittleLambofJesus said:
Thank you. You almost inspire me to also vote yes.
[I made the poll where one could change their vote.]

I could make a "safe house" for only those that believe 70ad Jerusalem is shown in Revelation.
How would that be?

Douggg said:
You can accomplish the same thing, I think, by choosing the partial preterist tag as the prefix in the title when you create a new thread.

I don't know the Partial Preterists' view on how much of Revelation and/or the Olivet Discourse they view as fulfilled.....
I got this off another forum I was on many years back:

"There are two primary camps within preterism on this issue:

One view holds that there is a break in Matthew 24 beginning with either verse 35 or 36,
and another that holds that the entire enchilada primarily belongs to the first century.

Proponents of the former view [that there is a break in Matthew 24 beginning with either verse 35 or 36] include Kenneth Gentry and Marcellus Kik....

Proponents of the latter view [that holds that the entire enchilada primarily belongs to the first century], include Dan Trotter and Gary DeMar.l......"

shilohsfoal · Jul 18, 2018

keras said:
A 'machaerus' is a single edged sword. That'll do me, Jesus will use the double edged one.

The event where the sky will be pushed away, is the Lord's Day of wrath, the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster. Man can't do it; nukes don't roll aside the atmosphere. Isaiah 34:4 repeats this event, instigated by the Lord.
Science and astronomy know what it is that can cause all the prophesied cosmic and earthly effects and Isaiah 30:26a plainly says it will be the sun that causes it all to happen.

Nukes do everything that is written,of that event.
The earthquake
The missiles falling to the earth
The sky departing from,the earth
earth.

Its called war and the war is called armegedon.Scripture plainly states this is war.Not the fairy tales you spew out.

keras · Jul 18, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
Nukes do everything that is written,of that event.
The earthquake
The missiles falling to the earth
The sky departing from,the earth
earth.

Its called war and the war is called armegedon.Scripture plainly states this is war.Not the fairy tales you spew out.

Very wrong and very unpleasant of you.
Ezekiel 7:14 They have blown the trumpets and made ready for war, but no one goes to the battle, for My wrath falls upon all he multitude thereof.

BABerean2 · Jul 18, 2018

LittleLambofJesus said:
Look very closely at these verses and tell me, after reading them, you still think Luke 21 is a different event than Matt 24 and Mk 13.
If Lk 21 is about the Roman conquest in 70 ad, then so is Revelation!

Matthew 24:
32 ‘And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile:
When already its branch may have become tender, and the leaves it may put forth, ye know that summer [is] nigh,
33 so also ye, when ye may see all these, ye know that it is nigh — at the doors.
Mark 13:
28 ‘And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile:
when the branch may already become tender, and may put forth the leaves, ye know that nigh is the summer;
29 so ye, also, when these ye may see coming to pass, ye know that it is nigh, at the doors.

What is nigh at the doors? The Kingdom of God!

Luke 21:
29 And he spake a simile to them: ‘See the fig-tree, and all the trees,
30 when they may now cast forth, having seen, of yourselves ye know that now is the summer nigh;
31 Thus also ye whenever ye may be seeing these-things becoming ye are knowing that nigh/egguV <1451> is the Kingdom of the God.

Revelation 1:3
Happy the one reading/ana-ginwskwn <314> (5723) and the ones hearing the words of the prophecy and keepings the in it having been written
for the time nigh/egguV <1451>.

Revelation 6:13
and the stars of the heaven fell to the land — as a fig-tree doth cast the ruined-ones of it by a great wind being shaken

Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Luk 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
Luk 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Luk 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

This is the dividing line between the events of 70 AD above...
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and the Second Coming of Christ below, which occurs when the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Compare the signs in the sun, moon, and stars in Luke 21:25-28, and Matthew 24:29, to the signs in Revelation 6:12-13.

Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
(The moon does not give its normal light during a blood moon.)
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

.

shilohsfoal · Jul 19, 2018

keras said:
Very wrong and very unpleasant of you.
Ezekiel 7:14 They have blown the trumpets and made ready for war, but no one goes to the battle, for My wrath falls upon all he multitude thereof.

Don't change the subject.
We are talking about revelation here
Armegedon .The day of the Lord when all thearmies are gathered at armegedon.

We've seen how you take things out of context.Destruction comes from the north.

keras · Jul 19, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
Don't change the subject.
We are talking about revelation here
Armegedon .The day of the Lord when all thearmies are gathered at armegedon.

I did not change the subject.
I refer to the great and terrible Day of the Lord's wrath; the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17 Years later will come the Great Day of the Lord Almighty, Revelation 16:14, where Jesus destroys the attacking armies by the Sword of His Word.
Nukes are not used at either time.

shilohsfoal · Jul 19, 2018

keras said:
I did not change the subject.
I refer to the great and terrible Day of the Lord's wrath; the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17 Years later will come the Great Day of the Lord Almighty, Revelation 16:14, where Jesus destroys the attacking armies by the Sword of His Word.
Nukes are not used at either time.

You claim God will destroy the occupants of the middle east but the word of God says this man does.

http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm

If you want to believe that man is God then go right ahead.He believes he is as well.

The word of God says,whenthat king of the north goes forth to destroy and utterly make away many,it will be the greatest tribulation on the earth that has ever been.

http://biblehub.com/daniel/12-1.htm

The word of God says this mans military shall place the abomination which causes desolation.
God does not say he himself will cause desolation .He says this kings military will cause desolation.

keras · Jul 19, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
You claim God will destroy the occupants of the middle east but the word of God says this man does.

You have missed rather a lot of scripture:
Deuteronomy 32:41-43 I will prepare My flashing sword and take vengeance on those who hate Me. My sword will devour flesh and My arrows will be drunk with blood. I will avenge the slain of My people and cleanse their Land.

Isaiah 2:12-21 The Lord has a Day of doom in store...all the proud will be brought low.

Zephaniah 1:15-16 The Day of the Lord’s wrath is a Day of anguish and torment, of cloud and darkness, of destruction and devastation and a Day of military defeats.

Isaiah 33:14 Sinners in the Land quake with terror, can anyone live in this devouring fire?

Joel 1:15 The Day is near, the Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, a mighty destruction from Almighty God.

Isaiah 33:10-12 Now I shall arise, I will exalt Myself. My enemies will be as chaff and stubble, a fiery wind will consume them. Whole nations will become as heaps of ash.

Isaiah 63:1-6 Who is this coming from Edom?.... in power and victory....I trampled the nations in My anger, their blood stained My garments. I resolved on a Day of vengeance, the year for redeeming My own had come.

Revelation 14:14-16 ...there appeared a Man wearing a gold crown and with a sickle in His hand. He swept over the earth with His sickle and the earth was reaped.

Isaiah 66:15-17 The Lord is coming in fire, like a whirlwind. He will judge with fire, His sword will test mankind, many will be slain by Him.

Isaiah 29:6 Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come from the Lord, with storms, earthquakes and flames of devouring fire.

shilohsfoal · Jul 20, 2018

keras said:
You have missed rather a lot of scripture:
Deuteronomy 32:41-43 I will prepare My flashing sword and take vengeance on those who hate Me. My sword will devour flesh and My arrows will be drunk with blood. I will avenge the slain of My people and cleanse their Land.

Isaiah 2:12-21 The Lord has a Day of doom in store...all the proud will be brought low.

Zephaniah 1:15-16 The Day of the Lord’s wrath is a Day of anguish and torment, of cloud and darkness, of destruction and devastation and a Day of military defeats.

Isaiah 33:14 Sinners in the Land quake with terror, can anyone live in this devouring fire?

Joel 1:15 The Day is near, the Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, a mighty destruction from Almighty God.

Isaiah 33:10-12 Now I shall arise, I will exalt Myself. My enemies will be as chaff and stubble, a fiery wind will consume them. Whole nations will become as heaps of ash.

Isaiah 63:1-6 Who is this coming from Edom?.... in power and victory....I trampled the nations in My anger, their blood stained My garments. I resolved on a Day of vengeance, the year for redeeming My own had come.

Revelation 14:14-16 ...there appeared a Man wearing a gold crown and with a sickle in His hand. He swept over the earth with His sickle and the earth was reaped.

Isaiah 66:15-17 The Lord is coming in fire, like a whirlwind. He will judge with fire, His sword will test mankind, many will be slain by Him.

Isaiah 29:6 Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come from the Lord, with storms, earthquakes and flames of devouring fire.

If you believe God has to physically come down Cromer,heaven and kill a bunch of people with a sword turn you don't have much faith In him of you.

All he has to do is say the word and it shall be done.And he has already done that long ago.

As for the desolation.God does not place the abomination that causes desolation.
The military of the king of the north does that.

http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm

keras · Jul 20, 2018

shilohsfoal said:
If you believe God has to physically come down Cromer,heaven and kill a bunch of people with a sword turn you don't have much faith In him of you.

All he has to do is say the word and it shall be done.And he has already done that long ago.

As for the desolation.God does not place the abomination that causes desolation.
The military of the king of the north does that.
http://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm

Actually; the Lord sends fire, on His Day of Wrath. Amos 1 Just like He did when He sent water in Noah's day.
The prophesies I listed in #33, can and will be literally fulfilled on His Day of wrath. A Day before what Daniel tells us about with the kings of the North, etc. That will happen during the last 7 years before Jesus Returns.

Davy · Jul 22, 2018

LittleLambofJesus said:
Look very closely at these verses and tell me, after reading them, you still think Luke 21 is a different event than Matt 24 and Mk 13.
If Lk 21 is about the Roman conquest in 70 ad, then so is Revelation!

Matthew 24:
32 ‘And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile:
When already its branch may have become tender, and the leaves it may put forth, ye know that summer [is] nigh,
33 so also ye, when ye may see all these, ye know that it is nigh — at the doors.
Mark 13:
28 ‘And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile:
when the branch may already become tender, and may put forth the leaves, ye know that nigh is the summer;
29 so ye, also, when these ye may see coming to pass, ye know that it is nigh, at the doors.

What is nigh at the doors? The Kingdom of God!

Luke 21:
29 And he spake a simile to them: ‘See the fig-tree, and all the trees,
30 when they may now cast forth, having seen, of yourselves ye know that now is the summer nigh;
31 Thus also ye whenever ye may be seeing these-things becoming ye are knowing that nigh/egguV <1451> is the Kingdom of the God.

Revelation 1:3
Happy the one reading/ana-ginwskwn <314> (5723) and the ones hearing the words of the prophecy and keepings the in it having been written
for the time nigh/egguV <1451>.

Revelation 6:13
and the stars of the heaven fell to the land — as a fig-tree doth cast the ruined-ones of it by a great wind being shaken

All that reasoning of those Scriptures is based on trying to fit a doctrine into the Scriptures which is not there (i.e., treating Revelation timing like it was for 70 A.D.). Simply taking a phrase like "nigh" out of a Chapter and trying to apply an outside doctrine of men to it is not how to understand God's Word.

The fig tree parable Jesus was giving in His Olivet discourse involves the 'specific' signs He gave them, the final sign being that of His 2nd coming return, which has yet to happen even in our day. So by accepting man's theory that Revelation is history, that would also mean you must... accept their false belief that Jesus' 2nd coming has already happened too. That because the signs of Rev.6, the Seals, are the same signs Jesus gave in His Olivet discourse, the last one showing He has returned.

The Rev.6:13 verse of the 6th Seal includes the idea of the fig tree, but speaking of a different sign involving it. It says 'untimely' figs, pointing to the winter fig that grows early and falls off in the spring. It is in relation to the casting out of Satan and his angels of Rev.12:7 forward for the very end of this world. Summer is the real time of harvest by Jesus. Satan is going to attempt an early harvest in the spring, and thus he and his represent the untimely figs associated with those stars that fall from heaven as untimely figs. (The fig parable actually begins in the OT, and flows throughout God's Word in several places. The part Jesus gave His in His Olivet discourse was in recognizing the times of the end when He comes vs. when the Antichrist comes.)

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 24, 2018

Here is something interesting I found while looking at this greek word in Luke 21:

#G3625

3625. oikoumene oy-kou-men'-ay feminine participle present passive of 3611 (as noun, by implication, of 1093); land, i.e. the (terrene part of the) globe; specially, the Roman empire:--earth, world.
Strong's Number G3625 matches the Greek οἰκουμένη (oikoumenē), which occurs 15 times in 15 verses

It is used in 2 verses of the Olivet Discourse: Matthew 24 and Luke 21 thus tying in Matt and Luke to 70ad and Revelation:

Matthew 24:14
“And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth/οἰκουμένη (oikoumenē)<3625> as a witness to all the nations,
and then the end will come.

Luke 21:26
“men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming upon the earth/οἰκουμένη (oikoumenē)<3625>,
for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

3 times in Revelation:

Revelation 3:
10 ‘Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you out of the hour of that trial which is about to be coming upon the whole earth/οἰκουμένη (oikoumenē)<3625>,
to try those who dwell on the land.

Revelation 12:9
So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole earth/οἰκουμένη (oikoumenē)<3625>; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 16:14
For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and[fn] of the whole earth/οἰκουμένη (oikoumenē)<3625>, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 24, 2018

keras said:
No, I totally disagree.
Revelation was written after 70 AD; circa 95 AD. Luke warns the Christians to escape when the Romans attack, Rev. warns the Christians to stand firm in their faith, during the Great Trib.

BTW; Machaerus is Greek for 'sword'. It is the name of the fort where Herod decapitated John the Baptist. I have been there and have a photo of McKerras, holding a machaerus at Machaerus. My Scottish surname is pronounced exactly as the Greek word is.

Thanks for posting.
l am not here to speculate on when John visioned or wrote Revelation but what it is symbolizing from the Olivet Discourse in Matt, Mark and Luke.

Do you believe all 3 Gospels are depicting the same event or not?

LittleLambofJesus · Aug 3, 2018

keras said:
Actually; the Lord sends fire, on His Day of Wrath. Amos 1 Just like He did when He sent water in Noah's day.
The prophesies I listed in #33, can and will be literally fulfilled on His Day of wrath. A Day before what Daniel tells us about with the kings of the North, etc. That will happen during the last 7 years before Jesus Returns.

What does that have to do with the topic of Luke 21:24 and Revelation 13:10?

From what I have heard some say is that Luke 21 concerns the destruction of Jerusalem, while Matt and Mark are a different future event.
That never made much sense to me........

LittleLambofJesus · Aug 3, 2018

Douggg said:
You can accomplish the same thing, I think, by choosing the partial preterist tag as the prefix in the title when you create a new thread.

keras said:
I won't vote as these two verses are about different events:
Luke's is about the Roman conquest in 70-135 AD.

Rev 13:10 refers to all the Christians who must endure all that will happen and stand strong in their faith until Jesus Returns.

Those who teach that are preaching a different Gospel and it is no wonder we can't get the Jews of today to believe in our NT.......blasphemy!

Matthew 24:
1 And having gone forth, Jesus departed from the Temple, and His disciples came near to show Him the buildings of the Temple,
2 and Jesus said to them, ‘Do ye not see all these? Verily I say to ye, there may not be left here a stone upon a stone, that shall not be thrown down.’

Mark 13:
1 And as He is going forth out of the Temple, one of His disciples saith to him, ‘Teacher, see! what stones! and what buildings!’ 2 and Jesus answering said to him, ‘Seest thou these great buildings? there may not be left a stone upon a stone, that may not be thrown down.’

Luke 21:
5 And certain saying about the Temple, that with goodly stones and devoted things it hath been adorned, he said, 6 ‘These things that ye behold — days will come, in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone, that shall not be thrown down.’

Captivity and sword Luke 21:24 Revelation 13:10

Luke 21:24 and Revleation 13:10 showing 70ad destruction of Jerusalem?

Yes

No

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Does it matter?

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