Mathew 22 army

TribulationSigns · Jul 18, 2018

Matthew 22:2-14

The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
For many are called, but few are chosen.

While the parable in Matthew 22 talks about armies, it's quite obvious that they are not literal/physical armies of an earthly kingdom any more than Revelation talks about Physical armies, horsemen or cities being destroyed. And people who think so follow the same carnal logic to come to those conclusions. Joel 2 talks about the Lord's army that he sent among the children of Zion, and talks about their restoration as through Calvary. This, of course, all taking place before and at the cross.

Joel 2:28

"And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:"

This "afterward" is the aftermath of the destruction caused by the King's army, which of course clearly speaks of the fall of old testament congregation and in three days, being restored as the New Testament congregation of God through the cross of Christ. It has nothing to do with Roman armies of 70 A.D., but of fulfillment in Christ.

Acts 2:16-17

"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:"

As we've been saying all along, there is the fulfillment of the destruction of the city, the people fallen, and its restoration in Christ Jesus. The Biblical fact is, the Lord has restored the captivity, not will restore it as many teach. The restoration has already been taken place through Christ once, and for all.

Second, the parable of Matthew 22 says not one word about waiting until 70 A.D. to bring about the destruction of the city and people, or about a Roman army being the Lord's, or about a ruler Titus or any of the other alleged proofs some offer as support for their Physical city destruction supposition. This, when it seems perfectly clear God is not talking about a physical city within Israel, but the whole congregation of Israel, using the holy city as the kingdom representation. Well, they have the kingdom no more, and haven't since it was taken from them at the cross. God clearly said:

Matthew 21:43

"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."

Moreover, as I said before, if the destruction was of a physical city, then obviously, rationally and logically the rebuilding would have to be of that same alleged physical city. Of course, it did not occurred. Clearly the parable illustrates the rebuilding is the New Testament congregation. Why? Because the destruction was the Old Testament congregation. People are just not thinking clearly or using a sound hermeneutic when they inconsistently see a literal/physical place instead of the Lord's covenanted people represented by Jerusalem. Let read Matthew 22 again:

Matthew 22:2-14

"The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
For many are called, but few are chosen."

Are we going to go by what "seems" right in our own eyes by reading the book of Josephus, or by the authoritative word of God explaining it by comparing scripture with Scripture? That is the question! This parable actually supports the understanding of this being the Old Testament congregation that was destroyed at the cross and being rebuilt in the New Testament congregation, rather than a physical city that was destroyed over 30 years after the cross. Understand, it's talking about what the "Kingdom of heaven" is, likened unto. In other words, the congregation on earth! Not physical city.

Moreover, if the wedding, the bidding to it, the slain oxen, the farm, the merchandise, the fatlings, and the guests on the highways are not literal things at a very literal wedding, what would make anyone think the armies of the king would magically, and out of context, be an absolute literal/physical army of Romans in the midst of all this? Think about it! That makes no sense! It's only accepted because Christians follow the leaders rather than sound study practices or hermeneutics. That is why we have a thousand different versions of every doctrine known to the church. Not because truth is so unattainable, but because of the stubborn will of man.

Third, after the city was destroyed, then God sent out His servants to secure wedding guests. Are we to then suppose that the church waited over 30 years until 70 A.D. when a physical destruction of Jerusalem took place before God (this King) sent His servants out to find guests? The whole idea is inconsistent because when something is not true it generally is always inconsistent. For example, it won't fit because there is no real harmony as with God inspired truth. The biblical fact is, God sent his servants out to secure guests to the wedding when he poured out His Holy Spirit at Pentecost, not over 30 years after Pentecost after a destruction in 70 A.D.

Fourth, there is not one jot or tittle in God's inerrant word about all stones falling being an exaggeration or a physical army knocking down physical bricks in 70 A.D., because it's speculation. That's not even taking into account that the physical city Jerusalem "in 70 A.D." was no longer the Lord's Holy City that it would even qualify. It hadn't been God's Holy City since the time of the cross!! There was a "New Jerusalem," and it certainly was not represented by the physical Jerusalem in 70 A.D., The only holy city Jerusalem that qualifies for being destroyed before the rebuilding was the congregation of God that was destroyed when Christ was crucified. So the use of these passages of Matthew 22 in an attempt to justify a carnal worldview of a city's destruction by the people of a Prince in 70 A.D., is without Rock solid foundation. The foundation upon the WORD of God rather than history books.

The "armies that destroyed the holy city" were the people themselves who Scripture says compassed Christ about, and who pierced his hands and feet. They stumbled over the stone and destroyed both city and sanctuary. They are those who came against Jerusalem by being against Christ. Not being against Romans. The Jews were the children of their father, the messengers who were ruled by their King Satan. The kingdom of God at that time suffered violence and was taken by force, until Satan was cast out of the kingdom, and his messengers with him, and their kingdom representation was given to another. Christ spoiled the Kingdom by conquest and set its captives free. It's not a physical Kingdom in physical heaven with an army of supernatural angels around a pregnant women floating in space with physical stars on her head. It's the representation of the Holy city, the kingdom of heaven represented on earth, and symbolized with cryptic imagery you see in books like Revelation. The city was destroyed by an army alright, but not a Roman one in 70 A.D. It is by Satan's messengers, the people of the Prince, who had turned against Christ and had taken it by force. This is the battle where Israel fell, and it was realized at the cross, not after 70 A.D.

Revelation 12:7-10

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Christ defeated the accuser Satan and his messengers and the Lord's messengers defeated them by His blood, not the swords, staves and armies of 70 A.D. Selah! When we find what armies these verses of Revelation 12 represent, what battle of messengers this was, what accuser was cast down and how the Lord's servants, His army, overcame Satan's army by the blood of Christ, then maybe it will start to dawn upon us that it be revealed just how the enemies encamped against the Holy city and in the end were defeated by Christ and cast out. The result being that the New Testament Church was established. Not in 70 AD, but by and through the army who triumphs through the blood of Christ.

LastSeven · Jul 18, 2018

Obviously then you would also agree that the battle of Armageddon is a spiritual battle, correct?

TribulationSigns · Jul 18, 2018

LastSeven said:
Obviously then you would also agree that the battle of Armageddon is a spiritual battle, correct?

Yes, sir.

Chinchilla · Jul 18, 2018

TribulationSigns said:
Matthew 22:2-14

The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

For many are called, but few are chosen.

While the parable in Matthew 22 talks about armies, it's quite obvious that they are not literal/physical armies of an earthly kingdom any more than Revelation talks about Physical armies, horsemen or cities being destroyed. And people who think so follow the same carnal logic to come to those conclusions. Joel 2 talks about the Lord's army that he sent among the children of Zion, and talks about their restoration as through Calvary. This, of course, all taking place before and at the cross.

Joel 2:28

"And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:"

This "afterward" is the aftermath of the destruction caused by the King's army, which of course clearly speaks of the fall of old testament congregation and in three days, being restored as the New Testament congregation of God through the cross of Christ. It has nothing to do with Roman armies of 70 A.D., but of fulfillment in Christ.

Acts 2:16-17

"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:"

As we've been saying all along, there is the fulfillment of the destruction of the city, the people fallen, and its restoration in Christ Jesus. The Biblical fact is, the Lord has restored the captivity, not will restore it as many teach. The restoration has already been taken place through Christ once, and for all.

Second, the parable of Matthew 22 says not one word about waiting until 70 A.D. to bring about the destruction of the city and people, or about a Roman army being the Lord's, or about a ruler Titus or any of the other alleged proofs some offer as support for their Physical city destruction supposition. This, when it seems perfectly clear God is not talking about a physical city within Israel, but the whole congregation of Israel, using the holy city as the kingdom representation. Well, they have the kingdom no more, and haven't since it was taken from them at the cross. God clearly said:

Matthew 21:43

"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."

Moreover, as I said before, if the destruction was of a physical city, then obviously, rationally and logically the rebuilding would have to be of that same alleged physical city. Of course, it did not occurred. Clearly the parable illustrates the rebuilding is the New Testament congregation. Why? Because the destruction was the Old Testament congregation. People are just not thinking clearly or using a sound hermeneutic when they inconsistently see a literal/physical place instead of the Lord's covenanted people represented by Jerusalem. Let read Matthew 22 again:

Matthew 22:2-14

"The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

For many are called, but few are chosen."

Are we going to go by what "seems" right in our own eyes by reading the book of Josephus, or by the authoritative word of God explaining it by comparing scripture with Scripture? That is the question! This parable actually supports the understanding of this being the Old Testament congregation that was destroyed at the cross and being rebuilt in the New Testament congregation, rather than a physical city that was destroyed over 30 years after the cross. Understand, it's talking about what the "Kingdom of heaven" is, likened unto. In other words, the congregation on earth! Not physical city.

Moreover, if the wedding, the bidding to it, the slain oxen, the farm, the merchandise, the fatlings, and the guests on the highways are not literal things at a very literal wedding, what would make anyone think the armies of the king would magically, and out of context, be an absolute literal/physical army of Romans in the midst of all this? Think about it! That makes no sense! It's only accepted because Christians follow the leaders rather than sound study practices or hermeneutics. That is why we have a thousand different versions of every doctrine known to the church. Not because truth is so unattainable, but because of the stubborn will of man.

Third, after the city was destroyed, then God sent out His servants to secure wedding guests. Are we to then suppose that the church waited over 30 years until 70 A.D. when a physical destruction of Jerusalem took place before God (this King) sent His servants out to find guests? The whole idea is inconsistent because when something is not true it generally is always inconsistent. For example, it won't fit because there is no real harmony as with God inspired truth. The biblical fact is, God sent his servants out to secure guests to the wedding when he poured out His Holy Spirit at Pentecost, not over 30 years after Pentecost after a destruction in 70 A.D.

Fourth, there is not one jot or tittle in God's inerrant word about all stones falling being an exaggeration or a physical army knocking down physical bricks in 70 A.D., because it's speculation. That's not even taking into account that the physical city Jerusalem "in 70 A.D." was no longer the Lord's Holy City that it would even qualify. It hadn't been God's Holy City since the time of the cross!! There was a "New Jerusalem," and it certainly was not represented by the physical Jerusalem in 70 A.D., The only holy city Jerusalem that qualifies for being destroyed before the rebuilding was the congregation of God that was destroyed when Christ was crucified. So the use of these passages of Matthew 22 in an attempt to justify a carnal worldview of a city's destruction by the people of a Prince in 70 A.D., is without Rock solid foundation. The foundation upon the WORD of God rather than history books.

The "armies that destroyed the holy city" were the people themselves who Scripture says compassed Christ about, and who pierced his hands and feet. They stumbled over the stone and destroyed both city and sanctuary. They are those who came against Jerusalem by being against Christ. Not being against Romans. The Jews were the children of their father, the messengers who were ruled by their King Satan. The kingdom of God at that time suffered violence and was taken by force, until Satan was cast out of the kingdom, and his messengers with him, and their kingdom representation was given to another. Christ spoiled the Kingdom by conquest and set its captives free. It's not a physical Kingdom in physical heaven with an army of supernatural angels around a pregnant women floating in space with physical stars on her head. It's the representation of the Holy city, the kingdom of heaven represented on earth, and symbolized with cryptic imagery you see in books like Revelation. The city was destroyed by an army alright, but not a Roman one in 70 A.D. It is by Satan's messengers, the people of the Prince, who had turned against Christ and had taken it by force. This is the battle where Israel fell, and it was realized at the cross, not after 70 A.D.

Revelation 12:7-10

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Christ defeated the accuser Satan and his messengers and the Lord's messengers defeated them by His blood, not the swords, staves and armies of 70 A.D. Selah! When we find what armies these verses of Revelation 12 represent, what battle of messengers this was, what accuser was cast down and how the Lord's servants, His army, overcame Satan's army by the blood of Christ, then maybe it will start to dawn upon us that it be revealed just how the enemies encamped against the Holy city and in the end were defeated by Christ and cast out. The result being that the New Testament Church was established. Not in 70 AD, but by and through the army who triumphs through the blood of Christ.

The Kingdom of Heaven is like YAHWEH the LORD which made marriage for his son YAHOSHUA .
And YAHWEH send forth his prophets to gather Israel - the bride for his son , but they would not want him to rule over them .

Then he send other servants - his born again believers , the remament of Jews which accepted Christ but they slew them .

Then Yahweh heared the persecution and decided to destroy the city Jerusalem because first bride was not worthy for the wedding .

Therefore he send his servants - Christians to gather other people for the wedding and find as many as they could from every nation .
Both good and bad because of his grace .

The servants gathered as many as they could and the wedding started .

Then Yahweh found a man who wanted to enter into his wedding on his own rather than accepting the wedding garmet that Yahweh
provided , so he took him and casted him out .

Many were called to accept the gift , but few did .

That army was quite literall when Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D.

LastSeven · Jul 18, 2018

TribulationSigns said:
Yes, sir.

And when do you believe this battle began?

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 18, 2018

LastSeven said:
Obviously then you would also agree that the battle of Armageddon is a spiritual battle, correct?

TribulationSigns said:
Yes, sir.

Interesting.
What does that make the Gog-Magog battle.
Since I view these 2 events as one and the same, what if Armegeddon is also the gathering place of "Gog and Magog" to the place that is called "Armegeddon"? Just throwing that out there...

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/armegeddon-gog-magog-same-event.7413416/
Armegeddon/Gog-Magog same event?
Poll thread..........

Revelation 16:16
And he gathered-together/sunhgagen<4863> them into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Revelation 20:8
and he shall go forth to lead the nations astray, that are in the four corners of the land -- Gog and Magog --
to gather them together/sunagagein<4863> to war, of whom the number is as the sand of the sea;

TribulationSigns · Jul 18, 2018

LastSeven said:
And when do you believe this battle began?

It began when Satan comes out of Bottomless Pit to attack the New Testament congregation of Israel all over the world. Yes, spiritual battle. Not physically as most people are looking for in the Middle East.

Chinchilla · Jul 18, 2018

TribulationSigns said:
It began when Satan comes out of Bottomless Pit to attack the New Testament congregation of Israel all over the world. Yes, spiritual battle. Not physically as most people are looking for in the Middle East.

Is Satan in the bottomless pit now ? If so his chain it too long .

TribulationSigns · Jul 18, 2018

Chinchilla said:
That army was quite literall when Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D.

No. Matthew 22 has nothing to do with the physical destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Rather it is the fall of old testament congregation as a kingdom representation. God sees people as the stones of his temple (body). They are the people of the Old Testament Congregation. They are the people of the prince that come against Him. Not Romans. Not physical armies. Not physical stones.

Spiritual Discerned.

TribulationSigns · Jul 18, 2018

Chinchilla said:
Is Satan in the bottomless pit now ?

I do not believe so. From what I have seen so far in the church and the world, Satan has already been loosened.

If so his chain it too long .

Do you even realize WHY Satan was in the bottomless pit in the first place? Please read the Scripture:

Mark 3:27

[27] No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

Satan's house represents the world. His goods are people like us. Christ has to bind Satan first at the Cross in order to spoil us from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of Dear Son. This is the great commission and purpose of the church. This was why Satan was bound UNTIL the building of the church or the fulness of the Gentiles be coming in FIRST.

Chinchilla · Jul 18, 2018

TribulationSigns said:
No. Matthew 22 has nothing to do with the physical destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Rather it is the fall of old testament congregation as a kingdom representation. God sees people as the stones of his temple (body). They are the people of the Old Testament Congregation. They are the people of the prince that come against Him. Not Romans. Not physical armies. Not physical stones.

Spiritual Discerned.

So I guess you will deny the Sign of Jonas aswell ?

TribulationSigns · Jul 18, 2018

Chinchilla said:
So I guess you will deny the Sign of Jonas aswell ?

You point is?

What does this have to do anything Mark 3:27 I quoted?

Chinchilla · Jul 18, 2018

TribulationSigns said:
You point is?

What does this have to do anything Mark 3:27 I quoted?

Sign of Jonas was that Jonas after being dead for 3 days preached the message and if people did not repent the city would be destroyed after 40 days.

Jesus wafter being dead for 3 days sent forth people to preach but this city did not repent and was destroyed after 40 days ( a day for year Numbers 14:34 ).

30 A.D + 40 and you get 70 A.D destruction of Jerusalem

LastSeven · Jul 18, 2018

Chinchilla said:
Is Satan in the bottomless pit now ? If so his chain it too long .

Do you believe the battle of Armageddon will be a physical battle?

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 18, 2018

LastSeven said:
Do you believe the battle of Armageddon will be a physical battle?

Where is Armageddon located?

TribulationSigns · Jul 18, 2018

Chinchilla said:
Sign of Jonas was that Jonas after being dead for 3 days preached the message and if people did not repent the city would be destroyed after 40 days.

Jesus wafter being dead for 3 days sent forth people to preach but this city did not repent and was destroyed after 40 days ( a day for year Numbers 14:34 ).

30 A.D + 40 and you get 70 A.D destruction of Jerusalem

Doesn’t make sense.

First. Do you realize that people of nineveh are Gentiles? A spiritual picture of Gospel going to the gentiles after Christ’s death. And they DID repent. Ever wondered why Jonah protested to God after the deadline past that the people aren’t even Jewish?

Second, Christ didn’t died in 30AD.

LittleLambofJesus · Jul 18, 2018

Chinchilla said: ↑
Sign of Jonas was that Jonas after being dead for 3 days preached the message and if people did not repent the city would be destroyed after 40 days.

Jesus wafter being dead for 3 days sent forth people to preach but this city did not repent and was destroyed after 40 days ( a day for year Numbers 14:34 ).

30 A.D + 40 and you get 70 A.D destruction of Jerusalem

TribulationSigns said:
Doesn’t make sense.

First. Do you realize that people of nineveh are Gentiles? A spiritual picture of Gospel going to the gentiles after Christ’s death. And they DID repent. Ever wondered why Jonah protested to God after the deadline past that the people aren’t even Jewish?

Second, Christ didn’t died in 30AD.

I like Jonah:

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/what-about-jonah.8067726/#post-72761697
What about Jonah and Paul

Don't forget about the Queen of Sheba and Solomon:

Matthew 12:
41 `Men Ninevites shall be resurrecting/ana-sthsontai <450> (5698) in the judging with the generation/geneaV <1074>, this-one, and they shall be condemning it,
that they repent into the proclamation of Jonah
And behold! more of Jonah here.
42 `A Queen of the south shall be being roused/egerqhsetai <1453> (5701) in the judging with the generation/geneaV <1074>, this-one, and shall be condemning it.
That she came out of the ends of the land to hear the wisdom of Solomon,
And behold! more of Solomon here! [1 King 10]

1 Thessalonians 4:16
That Himself, the Lord, in a shout-of-command, in voice of chief-messenger and in trump of God, shall be descending from heaven,
and the dead-ones in Christ shall be Ressurecting/ana-sthsontai <450> (5698) First,

TribulationSigns · Jul 18, 2018

Chinchilla said:
Sign of Jonas was that Jonas after being dead for 3 days preached the message and if people did not repent the city would be destroyed after 40 days.

If? Based on what Scripture facts? The people of Nineveh DID repent and the city was spared from destruction.

Jonah 3:10

[10] And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

There is no "if" or "but" but the city was not destroyed in days of Jonah. So your point is?

Jesus wafter being dead for 3 days sent forth people to preach but this city did not repent and was destroyed after 40 days ( a day for year Numbers 14:34 ).

Bad Biblical exegesis. Jonah 3:10 provide your private interpretation wrong.

30 A.D + 40 and you get 70 A.D destruction of Jerusalem

Unbiblical calculation based on "what if" theory.

LastSeven · Jul 18, 2018

LittleLambofJesus said:
Where is Armageddon located?

Why do you ask?

TribulationSigns · Jul 19, 2018

LittleLambofJesus said:
Where is Armageddon located?

Why did you ask? Do you really understand what the word, Armageddon, actually means?

Armageddon mean mount or "mountain of Megiddo." The Greek rendering of Armageddon is from the Hebrew, and is made up of two words. The first is [har], meaning hill or mount (usually translated mountain), and [m`giddown], which was a city of Canaan given Manasseh in the Old Testament, and literally means, "place of meeting," through the idea of cutting to duplicate or multiply. It is a sort of "rendezvous mountain." Thus [har'mgiddown] or Armageddon means mountain of Megeddo, and signifies an appointed rendezvous or a place of appointment. For example, the final conflict wherein the forces of evil are appointed to come against the Church.

Revelation 17:16-17

"And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."

This is God's penultimate judgment, and the final assault on the Church by the kings of the earth, gathered together against the unfaithful congregation for this purpose and indwelled by the spirit of antichrist.

Many theologians "surmise" that since Megiddo "pertains" to the Jezreel Valley, it must thus refer to the "valley and plain of Megiddo" that is spoken of in scripture. This obviously because there is no mountain of Megiddo where the great battles of scripture were fought. It was the plain of Meggido and the fertile valley whose strategic location led to frequent battles for control by many kingdoms and empires. Basically it's really a matter of diverse hermeneutics, as most of these theologians are prone to use history to interpret scripture, rather than allow scripture to interpret history.

2nd Chronicles 35:21-22

"But he sent ambassadors to him, saying, What have I to do with thee, thou king of Judah? I come not against thee this day, but against the house wherewith I have war: for God commanded me to make haste: forbear thee from meddling with God, who is with me, that he destroy thee not.
Nevertheless Josiah would not turn his face from him, but disguised himself, that he might fight with him, and hearkened not unto the words of Necho from the mouth of God, and came to fight in the valley of Megiddo."

Selah! The truth is, Armageddon has nothing whatsoever to do with the literal/physical valley or plain of Megiddo, or a physical Mountain of Megiddo for that matter. Rather, God symbolically uses this place of great battles (Megiddo) to illustrate the great and final battle of the kingdom, wherein Satan and his army will one last time come against God's congregation for the final time. Satan and his armies of false prophets and christs are used by God as a tool of judgment upon His congregations. Satan, ruling in the man of sin, puffed up to believe that he may take a seat to rule as god. God has removed his restraining hand out of His congregation to allow Satan to do his own thing to His congregation as a judgment. Get it? Satan is going to deceive many people within the congregation and to have them disregard God's laws. This is the SPIRITUAL BATTLE of Armaggedon, a judgment of a harlot, all over the world. This battle will occur when Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit to gather the kings of the earth against her.

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