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That could be evidence such creatures or similar once existed.

I think it would be more likely that, given the human propensity to tell tall stories about beasties and to embellish them, that myths and stories about monstrous snakes, or monstrous versions of other mundane creatures, are the source--and that we simply took these stories with us as we migrated and settled around the world.

It may be nothing more than snakes are scary, we will tell stories of scary snakes. We do this even today, even in different parts of the United States there are tall tales and stories of monsters. We like monster stories, and taking things that are already scary and making them scarier is kind of something we do.

One theory, for example, is that the origins of the centaur may be nothing more than stories of quick moving horse riders (Scythians). Horseback riding seems to have originated in the region that came to be known as Scythia, the Pontic Steppe just north of the Black Sea. Before that became more widespread as it spread to places such as Anatolia, Persia, the Balkans, etc seeing a horde of horse-backed warriors would have been terrifying. It's entirely possible that stories of Scythian, or at least some Steppe peoples, were the inspiration.

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Hi @Any, here is a brand new documentary about a number of issues concerning the reliability of the Bible (from conservative Christian theologians, pastors, etc.). It's free in HD if you are an Amazon Prime member, or you can buy it in HD for $10: https://www.amazon.com/God-Who-Spea...pID=51a4r0VYKJL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Here's the description of the movie:

The God Who Speaks
91 min 2018

The God Who Speaks traces the evidence of the Bible's authority through interviews with some of the most respected experts and apologists, scholars and Pastors in the evangelical world. Exploring the latest evidence, it answers time old questions, can we know God, does he speak in ways we can understand and, has God Spoken? The latest proof for the inspiration of and reliability of the Bible.
Yours and His,
David
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Thank you. I have a lot of questions about the Bible and I realized many of the questions I ask are questions that would be asked to a Christian apologetic in a debate or something. While the questions make me uncomfortable, I need to dig deeper to find an answer. I will probably want to debunk these people's claims eventually when I gain enough knowledge.
You are being tempted by the deceiver. Look at Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Here we see that he will undermine God's authority by having you yourself question his Word. Since you are a new Christian, he will target you with things like this. Keep studying and reading the Bible and you will find the answers you seek as you mature as a Christian. Praying for you.
 
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Ephesians 6: NASB
10Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might.11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. 14Stand firm therefore, HAVING GIRDED YOUR LOINS WITH TRUTH, and HAVING PUT ON THE BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, 15and having shod YOUR FEET WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL OF PEACE; 16in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.17And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
 
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Thank you. I have a lot of questions about the Bible and I realized many of the questions I ask are questions that would be asked to a Christian apologetic in a debate or something. While the questions make me uncomfortable, I need to dig deeper to find an answer. I will probably want to debunk these people's claims eventually when I gain enough knowledge.
Unless you read for yourself the books in the Bible you'll have no way to know who is accurate in their assertions (for instance one could instantly see the mistake in post 11 if one has read through all of Exodus). Generally a Christian first needs the New Testament, where all our teachings are, the way to be Christian. I strongly suggest don't even go to a website with atheists laying traps for you like the one you describe in the OP if you haven't yet read much of the Bible.
 
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Hi @Any, here is a brand new documentary about a number of issues concerning the reliability of the Bible (from conservative Christian theologians, pastors, etc.). It's free in HD if you are an Amazon Prime member, or you can buy it in HD for $10: https://www.amazon.com/God-Who-Spea...pID=51a4r0VYKJL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Here's the description of the movie:

The God Who Speaks
91 min 2018

The God Who Speaks traces the evidence of the Bible's authority through interviews with some of the most respected experts and apologists, scholars and Pastors in the evangelical world. Exploring the latest evidence, it answers time old questions, can we know God, does he speak in ways we can understand and, has God Spoken? The latest proof for the inspiration of and reliability of the Bible.
Yours and His,
David

Thank you brother, I purchased the film on Faithlife TV, cost a little more, but integrates with my Logos library and is just as easily played on devices. I've started watching, hope to have time to finish watching soon. So far it's great, beautiful scenery, poor Dr. Sproul his health was fading at the time of production, love that man of God!
 
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hello everyone, I became a born again Christian a few month ago. I am struggling with something at the moment. I came across a post that had information about how there were many stories like the ones in the Bible before it was written. Basically it said the Bible is plagiarism.

I believe the Bible to be true and my experience with God was amazing. I experienced the Holy Spirit then the Bible explained everything I experienced.

However this information is testing my faith a bit.

Do you have any tips?

(Also many of the other religions that people say parallel the story of Jesus can be easily debunked, for example someone told me that Horus is basically Jesus but the stories are completely different)

Thanks.


You have to remembers that before and after Noah---they were a verbal people--It doesn't matter who wrote what first. It is who did a certain thing happen to first. It is not the Jews that plagiarized the stories in the bible from pagan writings---it is the pagans that plagiarized those stories from the people that it happened to and incorporated them into their own pagan rituals and stories and wrote them down.
 
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hello everyone, I became a born again Christian a few month ago. I am struggling with something at the moment. I came across a post that had information about how there were many stories like the ones in the Bible before it was written. Basically it said the Bible is plagiarism.

I believe the Bible to be true and my experience with God was amazing. I experienced the Holy Spirit then the Bible explained everything I experienced.

However this information is testing my faith a bit.

Do you have any tips?

(Also many of the other religions that people say parallel the story of Jesus can be easily debunked, for example someone told me that Horus is basically Jesus but the stories are completely different)

Thanks.

Look up coldcasechristianity for answers to these accusations.
Or try reasonablefaith or answersingenesis.
 
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hello everyone, I became a born again Christian a few month ago. I am struggling with something at the moment. I came across a post that had information about how there were many stories like the ones in the Bible before it was written. Basically it said the Bible is plagiarism.

I believe the Bible to be true and my experience with God was amazing. I experienced the Holy Spirit then the Bible explained everything I experienced.

However this information is testing my faith a bit.

Do you have any tips?

(Also many of the other religions that people say parallel the story of Jesus can be easily debunked, for example someone told me that Horus is basically Jesus but the stories are completely different)

Thanks.
The quick answer is correlation does not necessarily imply causation. The idea that the Bible was plagiarizing is conjecture, it's a guess.

It's like sayinghare flood stories
hello everyone, I became a born again Christian a few month ago. I am struggling with something at the moment. I came across a post that had information about how there were many stories like the ones in the Bible before it was written. Basically it said the Bible is plagiarism.

I believe the Bible to be true and my experience with God was amazing. I experienced the Holy Spirit then the Bible explained everything I experienced.

However this information is testing my faith a bit.

Do you have any tips?

(Also many of the other religions that people say parallel the story of Jesus can be easily debunked, for example someone told me that Horus is basically Jesus but the stories are completely different)

Thanks.
 
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hello everyone, I became a born again Christian a few month ago. I am struggling with something at the moment. I came across a post that had information about how there were many stories like the ones in the Bible before it was written. Basically it said the Bible is plagiarism.

I believe the Bible to be true and my experience with God was amazing. I experienced the Holy Spirit then the Bible explained everything I experienced.

However this information is testing my faith a bit.

Do you have any tips?

(Also many of the other religions that people say parallel the story of Jesus can be easily debunked, for example someone told me that Horus is basically Jesus but the stories are completely different)

Thanks.
Tips?

You may want to spend some time hearing from someone who not only spends his time reading what scholars have to say on this topic but also has published papers as a scholar himself.

Here's a video by Dr. Michael Heiser, his talent as a scholar is he can speak in plain English without using million dollar words.

 
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hello everyone, I became a born again Christian a few month ago. I am struggling with something at the moment. I came across a post that had information about how there were many stories like the ones in the Bible before it was written. Basically it said the Bible is plagiarism.

I believe the Bible to be true and my experience with God was amazing. I experienced the Holy Spirit then the Bible explained everything I experienced.

However this information is testing my faith a bit.

Do you have any tips?

(Also many of the other religions that people say parallel the story of Jesus can be easily debunked, for example someone told me that Horus is basically Jesus but the stories are completely different)

Thanks.
None of us was alive 10,000 years ago, so I don't suppose any of us know for sure how the biblical stories evolved. It's hard for me to put together a scenario, however, that would suggest the Bible is plagiarism.
 
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To imply that God's Word is NOT God's Word is not wise.

In the beginning GOD...
and the WORD was GOD and the WORD was with GOD...

Holy Men of old wrote as the HOLY SPIRIT spake to them...

And is supported by the Nicene Creed which is part of our guidelines here:
Who spoke through the prophets. (1 Samuel 19:20 ; Ezekiel 11:5,13)

GOD'S WORD. If you cannot believe it is, you have nothing in which to believe, for it is LIFE. SALVATION.
 
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