Papa John fired from Papa John's

SummerMadness · Jul 16, 2018

Papa John's Further Shuns Founder, Evicting Him From Offices

Papa John's International Inc.'s board put further distance between the pizza chain and its outspoken founder John Schnatter for using a racial slur, agreeing to review all ties to him, evict him from the headquarters, and remove him from all marketing materials.

A special committee of independent directors ordered the termination of a so-called founder's agreement that designated Schnatter as the brand's face and voice and is requesting he cease media appearances on behalf of the firm, the company said in a statement after a Sunday night board meeting. Though Schnatter resigned as chairman this month and no longer holds a formal management role, he remains on the board and still owns about 30 percent of the company's shares.

I realized this wasn't up. Darn you NFL kneelers, this is all your fault!

They'll probably change the name, but that will do nothing to change the taste. Chain pizza... blech!

Handmaid for Jesus · Jul 16, 2018

He forgot who was buying his pizzas.

Non sequitur · Jul 16, 2018

SummerMadness said:
Papa John's Further Shuns Founder, Evicting Him From Offices

I realized this wasn't up. Darn you NFL kneelers, this is all your fault!

They'll probably change the name, but that will do nothing to change the taste. Chain pizza... blech!

They are using the "using a racial slur" rather liberally.

Either way, don't care much for their pizza.

Rion · Jul 16, 2018

>Complains about KFC guy never getting in trouble for using racial slur and how such words are bad.
>Forced to step down.

:mmh:

I guess Papa John's is now pro-racism?

dgiharris · Jul 16, 2018

Schnatter came under pressure after a media report that he used a racial slur and graphic descriptions of violence against minorities in a conversation with the company’s former media agency, Laundry Service.

I don't imagine this media agency is going to get any business. I would never hire a firm that can't keep my conversations with them confidential.

Yarddog · Jul 16, 2018

SummerMadness said:
Papa John's Further Shuns Founder, Evicting Him From Offices

I realized this wasn't up. Darn you NFL kneelers, this is all your fault!

They'll probably change the name, but that will do nothing to change the taste. Chain pizza... blech!

He's been having trouble for a few years now. He stuck his foot in his mouth after Obamacare was passed and this retired him.

SummerMadness · Jul 16, 2018

Don't use the colonel as an excuse for racism

Regarding the July 13 news article "Papa John's chair quits after flap over use of slur":

I would like to respond to the comment that the now-former chairman of Papa John's made about my great-grandfather, Colonel Harland Sanders. I knew my great-grandfather very well into my early 20s, and I can say with 100 percent confidence that he was not a racist and never said what John Schnatter accused him of saying. My entire family can vouch for this.

My great-grandpa was very tolerant of all races and religions. He was known to throw around a few cuss words but never a racial slur. For Mr. Schnatter to use the colonel as a scapegoat for his own horrible, disgusting mouth and racist beliefs is inexcusable.

Snappy1 · Jul 16, 2018

What was the slur.....

Rion · Jul 16, 2018

Snappy1 said:
What was the slur.....

The N-Word. He complained about the Colonel calling blacks that word, so he's obviously racist.

Aldebaran · Jul 16, 2018

Rion said:
>Complains about KFC guy never getting in trouble for using racial slur and how such words are bad.
>Forced to step down.

I guess Papa John's is now pro-racism?

I'm surprised that the fact Colonel Sanders used the N-word doesn't impact KFC. After all, it's founder said far worse things!
I guess I'd better not push the issue though. I might be forced to "step down" for even saying anything about the N-word. That's how things seem to work these days.

Aldebaran · Jul 16, 2018

SummerMadness said:
Don't use the colonel as an excuse for racism

If speaking against racism makes a person racist, then what does that make you SM?

variant · Jul 16, 2018

Aldebaran said:
I'm surprised that the fact Colonel Sanders used the N-word doesn't impact KFC. After all, it's founder said far worse things!
I guess I'd better not push the issue though. I might be forced to "step down" for even saying anything about the N-word. That's how things seem to work these days.

Colonel Sanders died 38 years ago at the age of 90. Points about him seem a bit moot.

essentialsaltes · Jul 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
I'm surprised that the fact Colonel Sanders used the N-word doesn't impact KFC.

How is this a fact? Because Papa John said it? I don't think the Yum Brands Board is going to take note of a competitor's slur (of dubious contemporary relevance).

super animator · Jul 17, 2018

Rion said:
The N-Word. He complained about the Colonel calling blacks that word, so he's obviously racist.

That not the only statement they based on. Google it as I can't direct the links as it contains naughty words.

Aldebaran · Jul 17, 2018

variant said:
Colonel Sanders died 38 years ago at the age of 90. Points about him seem a bit moot.

But his company (KFC) still exists. Shouldn't it be closed down by protesters since it was founded by a racist? Shouldn't protesters be out in front of KFCs with signs that tell people not to give their money to a company that is founded on racism?

essentialsaltes · Jul 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
But his company (KFC) still exists. Shouldn't it be closed down by protesters since it was founded by a racist? Shouldn't protesters be out in front of KFCs with signs that tell people not to give their money to a company that is founded on racism?

#1: We don't know that Sanders was a racist. You have not established this 'fact'.

From what I've read, he used the word 'Negro' a bit longer than most of us in the US, but gave it up when told it was no longer acceptable. And people who knew him say he wasn't racist.

#2: Protestors had nothing to do with the decision of the Board of Papa Johns. So asking what protestors should or shouldn't do is a non sequitur.

Aldebaran · Jul 17, 2018

essentialsaltes said:
#1: We don't know that Sanders was a racist. You have not established this 'fact'.

From what I've read, he used the word 'Negro' a bit longer than most of us in the US, but gave it up when told it was no longer acceptable. And people who knew him say he wasn't racist.

#2: Protestors had nothing to do with the decision of the Board of Papa Johns. So asking what protestors should or shouldn't do is a non sequitur.

There's a website by the name of Obama's favorite campaign word that seems to indicate otherwise.

https://www.change.org/p/kentucky-fried-chicken-remove-new-racist-ads-featuring-col-sanders
The new Kentucky Fried Chicken ads hail back to a time when Jim Crow was the law, and a known racist, Col. Sanders was dressed in plantation attire peddling chicken. Many of us remember that Col. Sanders and KFC had many racial complaints while he was alive, and the brand had to be revamped to kill that memory in order for the business to survive. Why would anyone today think that going back to that era would be entertaining or beneficial? A time when unarmed black people are being killed without consequence in the streets and in churches, is not the time to resurrect a deceased polarizing racial figure to sell products geared towards people already being exploited. By signing this petition, you are saying you have had enough of being mistreated and disrespected in the media, and you have worked too hard to patronize a company that does not believe you deserve respect. Take a stand today. Tell KFC our voices matter! Let's get 100,000 signatures! These ads must stop!

SummerMadness · Jul 17, 2018

essentialsaltes said:
#1: We don't know that Sanders was a racist. You have not established this 'fact'.

From what I've read, he used the word 'Negro' a bit longer than most of us in the US, but gave it up when told it was no longer acceptable. And people who knew him say he wasn't racist.

#2: Protestors had nothing to do with the decision of the Board of Papa Johns. So asking what protestors should or shouldn't do is a non sequitur.

It's simply a matter of throwing someone under the bus and making an unsubstantiated claim to make Papa John's use of racial slurs okay.

variant · Jul 17, 2018

Aldebaran said:
But his company (KFC) still exists. Shouldn't it be closed down by protesters since it was founded by a racist? Shouldn't protesters be out in front of KFCs with signs that tell people not to give their money to a company that is founded on racism?

People can do whatever they want with their money.

Aldebaran · Jul 17, 2018

variant said:
People can do whatever they want with their money.

Yes, they can. I'm just curious as to why the people that just love to ruin lives over a word will go after some people and businesses while leaving others alone. Even simply making reference to another person using it gets someone fired from their own company.
Hey, I've heard Eddie Murphy use the N-word. Should I now be punished for mentioning that?

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