Imminent Destruction of the United States

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I won't read your book, as I can tell from your posts that I will disagree with it.
For example; it is perfectly plain that the first five Seals are open now, by Jesus at His Ascent to heaven. Revelation 5
Proved by the souls of the martyrs since Stephen, being kept under the Altar in heaven.

People like to say that the United States of America is not mentioned in the Bible. This is wrong and Isaiah 18:1-7 cannot be about anyone else*. The disaster described in that prophecy, will happen at the Sixth Seal, a worldwide devastation caused by a massive explosion of the suns surface, that will literally fulfil all the graphic prophesies about the sudden and shocking Day of the Lord's wrath.

*...the land beyond the river [or sea] of Ethiopia.... Ancient maps call the Atlantic Ocean; the sea of Aethiopia.
Please tell me then, if this is so, who was the first seal?
 
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People like to say that the United States of America is not mentioned in the Bible. This is wrong and Isaiah 18:1-7 cannot be about anyone else*. The disaster described in that prophecy, will happen at the Sixth Seal, a worldwide devastation caused by a massive explosion of the suns surface, that will literally fulfil all the graphic prophesies about the sudden and shocking Day of the Lord's wrath.

*...the land beyond the river [or sea] of Ethiopia.... Ancient maps call the Atlantic Ocean; the sea of Aethiopia.
If you would read verse 1 in chapter 18 Isaiah it plainly says Cush (Ethiopia) in Africa - that is quite strange reading you have when you call it the United States :)
 
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I don't care about a statue. It says this

And the woman that you saw is the great city that has dominion over the kings of the earth.” ~Revelation 17:18

It is made clear here without interpretation that it must be a city. In my book I reveal every single Babelic dynasty through the city and its king. New York City itself is the prostitute therefore.
No need to read your book. Just this post is all we need to know your book is not the truth either. The "City" in Revelation 17 is speaking of JERUSALEM! The antichrist is not going to deceived the world from New York! That is silly! He will come as if he is he Messiah, and the ONLY city he can go to is Jerusalem. It is from Jerusalem that he will deceive the entire world.

So much for your book and your theories. Throw it all in teh trash and start over.
 
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Please tell me then, if this is so, who was the first seal?
The first seal is to represent the CHURCH sent out with the GOSPEL of Jesus Christ. This seal was broken as soon as Jesus ascended, around 32 AD.
 
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Everyone, I am revealing this according to scripture. If you want to know for a fact that what I'm saying is the truth then you can read my book and it goes through the history and the scriptures, proving that the 7th Babylon is New York City, the prostitute. This has nothing to do with the seven seals and the timing of the tribulation. All this occurs before a seal is broken. Then the tribulation begins with the first seal being broken. Please read my book to get a full picture. Of course you don't have to read it but you won't fully understand what I'm saying without reading it.

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/672850
Sorry, but no one can prove a falsehood by scripture unless they pull verses out of context!
 
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No need to read your book. Just this post is all we need to know your book is not the truth either. The "City" in Revelation 17 is speaking of JERUSALEM! The antichrist is not going to deceived the world from New York! That is silly! He will come as if he is he Messiah, and the ONLY city he can go to is Jerusalem. It is from Jerusalem that he will deceive the entire world.

So much for your book and your theories. Throw it all in teh trash and start over.
How can the city be Jerusalem when the beast is the North country in Daniel and the antichrist rules out of the North country which is the alliance of the 10 countries. And he comes to Jerusalem to the temple to set up the abomination that makes desolate? If it was utterly destroyed by fire then there would be no temple in the first place. Every single city of the Babylons is the prostitute. It must be a Babylonian nation and Israel is never a Babylon. Israel is the opposite of Babylon. You've got it VERY wrong and your theory contradicts itself. The prostitute has nothing to do with the beast because the beast has NO city and the prostitute is a city.
 
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The first seal is to represent the CHURCH sent out with the GOSPEL of Jesus Christ. This seal was broken as soon as Jesus ascended, around 32 AD.
So Yahshua in heaven breaks the seal of himself on earth? Again self contradiction. The first seal is a man who conquers and is given a crown. Yahshua conquered and was allowed to open the seals because he conquered. The first seal had not been broken by him conquering. His conquering allowed him to open the seal of this man who conquers. You are very wrong.
 
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Please tell me then, if this is so, who was the first seal?
The First Seal is who Revelation 6:2 says it is. He surely isn't Jesus!
The horses and riders, are of course; allegories for what the Lord will allow to happen on earth. The business of conquering has certainly flourished since Jesus Ascended to heaven. The Roman conquest of Israel was an early example.
 
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If you would read verse 1 in chapter 18 Isaiah it plainly says Cush (Ethiopia) in Africa - that is quite strange reading you have when you call it the United States :)
[Staff edit].
Google Aethiopia; that is the ancient name for the Atlantic Ocean.
Are the Ethiopians of today, or any time, a people tall and smooth skinned, dreaded near and far, a nation strong and aggressive, in a land of many rivers?
[Staff edit].
 
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Our imminent destruction is at hand. I reveal to you that we are the 7th Babylon according to the word in Revelations:

To All,
I appreciate the discernment from all you Posters. Bible Prophecy is actually quite a simple process but the presenter in this Topic has clearly missed the target, missed the barn, and missed the compass direction.
With Best Regards,
DaDad
 
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I know for a BIBLICAL fact that God DID NOT talk about the United States in any of His prophecies. To claim that it is in God’s Word would make you a false prophet.

Dear TribulationSigns,
With all due respect, I would propose that a simple check should discount your premise.

In 1985 J.R. Church, host of the then Christian TV Show "Prophecy In The News" wrote a book based upon viewer letters fielded by his research assistant, a Patricia Berry. They basically observed that the 19th book of the Bible (the Book of Psalms) appears to be prophetic to the Jews, Chapter for year, such that Book 19, Chapter 48 = 1948 International Recognition of the State Of Israel; among other prophetic Chapters.

Given this premise, which I can independently validate with other Scriptural guidance, I would observe that indeed the United States is cited (not by name, but by deed) in the Psalms. And if one were sufficiently prefaced, one should find other instances where end time prophecies are fulfilled by the United States.

And should this be a surprise? For what other country was the FIRST to recognize the State Of Israel, and the FIRST to recognize the Capital of Israel other than the United States of America? And what country's men helped open the gates of the Concentration Camps, and dropped two atomic bombs in that war?

It's really not difficult to find the documented role, both past, present, and future, of the United States in Scripture, especially if I can provide a little guidance along your path!

Acts 8:29 And the Spirit said to Philip, “Go up and join this chariot.” 30 So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “How can I, unless some one guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

With Best Regards,
DaDad
 
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sometimes we look at too many details.....

I am not teaching absolute judgment on America.....
but I am saying America will be judged if we dont repent.....

for 2 main sins that are legally allowed
abortion
homosexuallity

God gave Ninevah 40 days to repent
I doubt seriuosly that we have 40 more YEARS to repent....

as abortion has been legal for 45 years
homosexuality.....4-5 years

there is still hope but time is running short...imo
2 chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
 
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Just want off the deep end " we are the 7th Babylon ".

This nation was given to God at the start. To many look at the NOW this moment. Not God. Take Israel. They are back in there land NOT because they follow God for they do not. Yet He keeps His word. We fall we miss it we dont keep our word. God is faithful ALWAYS to His word.

Then lol to say..if you want to know the fact or truth.. read MY book? Should not this have been worded HIS book aka the bible? Everyone speaking gives about tomorrow SPECULATION. What is written WILL happen. Its nothing more then your speculation. Been hearing the DOOM of America wow for SO many years now from MAN.. never the Father. Well there are RIGHTEOUS in the land. As long as I AM here.. it will NEVER touch me. HIS word says.. praise GOD there are MILLIONS of HIS Children in the US and the world

Now get them OUT OF THE WAY.. put in there secret place for a short time.. then.. I wont be here. As far as I understand..
 
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Google Aethiopia; that is the ancient name for the Atlantic Ocean.
Are the Ethiopians of today, or any time, a people tall and smooth skinned, dreaded near and far, a nation strong and aggressive, in a land of many rivers?
Try reading verse 7
In that time a present will be brought to the Lord of hosts
From a people tall and smooth of skin,
And from a people terrible from their beginning onward,
A nation powerful and treading down,
Whose land the rivers divide—
To the place of the name of the Lord of hosts,
To Mount Zion.

There is NOTHING at all about the USA , just your imagination conjuring up imaginary images
 
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Given this premise, which I can independently validate with other Scriptural guidance, I would observe that indeed the United States is cited (not by name, but by deed) in the Psalms. And if one were sufficiently prefaced, one should find other instances where end time prophecies are fulfilled by the United States.

I do not believe that Psalms was prophesied about the United States. Trying to interpret Psalms based on "recognize" modern Israel and her claim to a physical city of Jerusalem by a nation is NOT Biblical validate.

And should this be a surprise?

Not surprising coming from people who are deceived by false prophets. I can tell.

For what other country was the FIRST to recognize the State Of Israel, and the FIRST to recognize the Capital of Israel other than the United States of America?

So? Do you have a verse to support this nonsense?

And what country's men helped open the gates of the Concentration Camps, and dropped two atomic bombs in that war?

So? World War two was not prophesied in Scripture. Can you?

It's really not difficult to find the documented role, both past, present, and future, of the United States in Scripture, especially if I can provide a little guidance along your path!

Show me. Don't give me a link to a website or a book. Show me what YOU know without copy and paste other writing.

By the way, you are NOT my guidance. The Holy Spirit is.[/QUOTE]
 
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There is NOTHING at all about the USA , just your imagination conjuring up imaginary images

Hi seventysevens,

You are correct regarding the citation and an imaginary U.S. reference. But when you say "There is NOTHING at all about the USA", I would propose that there indeed is at least one reference (and I would argue more) to the United States of America (not by name, but by event) in Prophecy.

With Best Regards,
DaDad
 
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SOME SAY
Revelation 12:14 14The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness,

refers to America

but either way history shows that America had a special place in Gods heart and plan
with pilgrims...leaving europe because of persecution

history note:
Columbus left for America the exact day the
SPANISH INQUISITION began.....
 
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Hi seventysevens,

You are correct regarding the citation and an imaginary U.S. reference. But when you say "There is NOTHING at all about the USA", I would propose that there indeed is at least one reference (and I would argue more) to the United States of America (not by name, but by event) in Prophecy.

With Best Regards,
DaDad


Prove it.
 
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I can tell.

Please allow me to suggest that you cannot tell, and aren't interested in finding out. This attitude defies 1 Cor. 14, which tells us to "judge" the prophets, which demands that we hear the information and then make a decision. You've apparently made the decision before receiving the information.

As such 2 Peter 3:3 applies.

Thanks,
DaDad
 
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