What do Trump Supporters think about his Putin Obsession?

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That is such a ridiculous statement.
Completely false and so far over the top it would have to be called out as Kake News with (extra) frosting.

Trump just (blasted Russia) at the NATO meeting.

How does that fit into the big Kake News bromance.

M-Bob

Can’t answer any of my questions, huh Bob...?
 
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Oh. Root of Jesse. I get it now ^_^
Except that you don't know me, like I know Politico. I've read enough of them to know where they stand, and what their perspective is. You, on the other hand, don't know me, except for my participation here.
 
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Great advice! Any chance we could get you a time machine and send you back to the start of the Obama administration? I’m curious as to why these little rules about civility and experience are only kicking in now.

Incidentally, Trump has no foreign policy experience before getting the POTUS job, so really there is little difference between Joe Schmoe criticising him and a policy wonk.....
Neither did Obama, which is why they hire Sec of State.
...having said that, I’m a student of security studies and can confirm the guy is a clown, most who are more experienced than me think he’s a clown and is needlessly destabilising things.

I think having a year’s study of this under my belt puts my foreign policy experience well above Trump’s when he took office, wouldn’t you say?
Think much of yourself?
(I don’t mean to belabour the point, but I saw the clash over what “denuclearisation” meant with DPRK coming a mile away, and if a guy with half a policy masters could see this coming, his admin has no excuse whatsoever for failing to avoid it).
Well, to be fair, so has every president that's tried. It'll get ironed out, or they will still be under sanctions, and this president will call out countries that do business with them.
 
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So it doesn’t matter about whether you have experience in the field, we are still back to trite analogies.

Chess is a game with rules. And a guy who tries to play it like checkers is failing to play it properly. Geopolitics is similar.



I could do precisely nothing and it would be more useful.
No president has the experience necessary to be president. None of them.
 
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No-one who advises people to pray as a solution to a problem can credibly accuse others of spreading empty words :wave:
Except that we KNOW that prayer works.
 
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Oh, I see....chess.

Like the chess game he played with Mexico to have them pay for ‘The Wall’.................oh, wait...

Like the chess game he played with immigrants in snatching their children..........oh, wait.....

Like the chess game he played with Kim Jong Un to get him to stop producing nuclear weapons.......oh, wait.....

Chess master.....no doubt...
You should follow your advice. Them games ain't over...
 
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To Kaon and other Trumpers, please answer these questions....there are others, but these are top of mind for me at the moment.

1. Despite the findings of all of the US security and military organisations that the interference in your last election was the work of the Russians, at the behest of Putin, Trump continues to push Putin’s line that he had nothing to do with it........why?
Because there's no proof that it happened.
2. Trump continually calls for the destruction of NATO, a move which primarily (solely?) benefits Russia....why?
That's not what he calls for. He calls for them to pay up.
3. When has Trump ever strongly protested Russia’s illegal occupation of the Crimea? Why has he not?
Same question to Obama.
4. Most of Trump’s meetings/conversations with Putin have been only known to the public because the Russian administration have announced them. Why?
Because they were inconsequential to the Trumps.
 
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Because there's no proof that it happened.

Ummm.....you are kidding here...?

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/2016-presidential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/russia-trump-and-2016-us-election

https://www.politico.eu/article/h-r...evidence-of-russian-interference-in-election/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-intelligence-committee-report-a8430171.html

https://www.wired.com/story/did-russia-affect-the-2016-election-its-now-undeniable/

That's not what he calls for.

Wrong. He has called for the dismantling of NATO, a strategy that only benefits his Russian handlers...

Same question to Obama.

Oh, you mean the Obama who actually imposed sanctions on the Russians for their occupation.....that guy..!?

Because they were inconsequential to the Trumps.

But NOT inconsequential to the American people he serves...! He isn’t a king you know...?
 
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5. Every single member of Trump’s administration has sworn in the past that they have had NO connection or contact with Russian operatives,
Russia
Russia”.....why?

No Russian connection found to date.
Trump doesn't know Putin.

They will be meeting in a few days.
Let's hope they get along.
A lots riding on it.

M-Bob
 
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None of which proves that Trump had anything to do with it. Note: I didn't mean that Russia didn't try to interfere, but as your fearless leader Obama said during the campaign, Russia couldn't have any effect. So get over it.
Wrong. He has called for the dismantling of NATO, a strategy that only benefits his Russian handlers...
You guys always seem to take Trump's first statement as final, and it almost never is. It's called negotiation.
Oh, you mean the Obama who actually imposed sanctions on the Russians for their occupation.....that guy..!?
But knew that Russia was trying to hack into American information systems and did nothing about it? That guy???
But NOT inconsequential to the American people he serves...! He isn’t a king you know...?
That hasn't been proven, either.
 
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Your god doesn’t exist, and frankly anyone here supporting Trump should take their Christian identification down.
Morality from someone who doesn't believe in morals? Riiiight. We don't elect choir boys to be the leader of the free world, just ask Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton (I don't care which one), or Obama, for whom we don't know what religion he is. The only thing that matters is that they talk straight.
And I know my God exists.
 
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What Trump has said is that if NATO is to have a future, other countries must match the US in military spending.

They already are.
You watch too much of FOX
And I feel sorry for you because of it
 
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