Men, do you feel comfortable in the role of leader?

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There have been a lot of posts about women submitting to their husbands. My question is how many single men feel comfortable in the role as leader. This means stepping up when there is conflict and taking an active role in finding a fair solution instead of just avoiding conflict. Do you practice leading in your daily life...at your job (within the scope of your role), your family (as in parental & sibling family), and in your church? What kind of things are you doing to increase your experience leading?

Do women see you as a leader who will protect them and their someday children?
 

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I prefer to be a team. each should look to God rather than fallible humans. someone is only an authority or example as much as they are with God. therefore leadership is not based on what sex you happen to have.
 
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I prefer to be a team. each should look to God rather than fallible humans. someone is only an authority or example as much as they are with God. therefore leadership is not based on what sex you happen to have.

But even in a team, there is a team leader. The one who makes the decision when there is not a consensus. Are you comfortable being the team leader if asked?
 
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I'm comfortable with leading. My previous jobs gave me such opportunities.

That said, I don't mind being the head of the family one day. But I still don't believe that women are required to submit to their husbands. I think many Christians misinterpreted it. Overstating the scope of Paul's teachings on the matter.

If I end up with a wife that is more "old fashioned" Christian who insists submitting to me, I wouldn't mind. But I would still ask her opinions and weigh the options so everything is fair.
 
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But even in a team, there is a team leader. The one who makes the decision when there is not a consensus. Are you comfortable being the team leader if asked?

I'm not fully buying your narrative. give me a reasonable reason why I automatically win just because there is no consensus? I prefer to try to be one soul together. with all we are we should decide.

Gen 3:16 (ESV2011)
To the woman he (God) said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”


being the leader of what? I will do anything she says.
 
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I've frequently had to step into the role. Many people want the praise that leaders get, but few want the responsibility (or the blame) and many just lack a sense of purpose and direction.
 
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Just to add a different perspective from the other side, I think that personality style counts for a lot more. I prefer the idea of being equal in decision making but only if that'd suit the style of my future husband. If he was a leader and preferred a woman who would submit to him then it would be better for me to submit and for him to stick with his natural style rather than pretending he'd rather an equal partnership. I think a lot of women prefer a man to simply be confident in his style rather than whether hes a leader or not
 
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I have a sneaky feeling the best leaders are those who are not power hungry. So those who talk it being about a partnership are the ones that even feminist women will submit to having the final say. (Because she'll respect his opinion, rather than seeing 'sexism' and efforts to control and demean)
 
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being the leader of what? I will do anything she says.

That makes submitting impossible.

And in a team, there are many times on a team that all parties don't agree. Someone has to make the ultimate decision and that could make people mad at him/her. In a marriage, there are plenty of times where both parties don't agree...probably more than most teams.
 
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People have never naturally followed me.
My preference is to work with one person or a small group and come to a consensus of what we are to do.
But I have no problem standing up in front of a class and leading the class in a lesson.
My line of work has never been one of authority over other people. Tho I have trained others to do what I do for work with no problem.
 
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I have a sneaky feeling the best leaders are those who are not power hungry. So those who talk it being about a partnership are the ones that even feminist women will submit to having the final say. (Because she'll respect his opinion, rather than seeing 'sexism' and efforts to control and demean)

Depends if "partnership" means the man will not stand up for his family when hard decisions need to be made. Women submit to men that are leaders because they respect them...even feminists. Real leaders don't have to force people to follow them like a dictator, but rather they exude confidence and are easy to follow.

I went to a mothering class at a church and when submitting came up, the number one complaint was that their husband's didn't take the leadership role and forced them to do it because someone had to in the end.
 
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Just to add a different perspective from the other side, I think that personality style counts for a lot more. I prefer the idea of being equal in decision making but only if that'd suit the style of my future husband. If he was a leader and preferred a woman who would submit to him then it would be better for me to submit and for him to stick with his natural style rather than pretending he'd rather an equal partnership. I think a lot of women prefer a man to simply be confident in his style rather than whether hes a leader or not

What if his natural style is to avoid conflict at all cost which means he seldom makes a decision or takes a stand? ... even when he has a preference.
 
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What if his natural style is to avoid conflict at all cost which means he seldom makes a decision or takes a stand? ... even when he has a preference.

Then it'll suit him and the type of woman who desires a man like that, some women will prefer a passive man but admittedly id say more would prefer a man whose natural style is to lead
 
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When thinking about women who date "bad boys", could it be that women tend to see them as independent thinkers, leaders, and willing to stand up against the normal flow even if they aren't liked for it? Even if the women are mistaken about the quality of these men, it shows what they consider important in a relationship.
 
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Then it'll suit him and the type of woman who desires a man like that, some women will prefer a passive man but admittedly id say more would prefer a man whose natural style is to lead

Passive man is not very good.

Eventually, he'll hate your for doing things your way when it is his fault for not speaking up :)
 
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When thinking about women who date "bad boys", could it be that women tend to see them as independent thinkers, leaders, and willing to stand up against the normal flow even if they aren't liked for it? Even if the women are mistaken about the quality of these men, it shows what they consider important in a relationship.

Yeah thats my view, where the women like the confidence in the mans style above anything else
 
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Passive man is not very good.

Eventually, he'll hate your for doing things your way when it is his fault for not speaking up :)

I agree, personally I prefer either an equal partnership where both speak up, or to submit to the man. Everyone will enjoy different things though so I think its just important to be comfortable in each others style and compatible
 
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