The Homosexuality Issue

Spiritualized said:

Ahh, amazing, thank you very much Shoetoyou. That's a big help! Bless you I'll get straight onto that.

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Yay! Glad to hear it.

Spiritualized said:

Ahh, amazing, thank you very much Shoetoyou. That's a big help! Bless you I'll get straight onto that.

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No worries. Glad to help.

dreadnought said:

If you bar homosexuals, don't you have to bar all other sinners?

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Only those professing to be a Christian. Paul gives a few in 1 Corintians 5
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

dreadnought said:

If you bar homosexuals, don't you have to bar all other sinners?

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I don't mind having transgender pyro-fox unicorn in church but not as pastor or bishop , cuz God said they should be husband of one wife so no woman and no gay/lesbian .

dreadnought said:

And divorced, remarried pastors - but I'm not just talking about pastors.

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It has to do with PROFESSION of faith.

1stcenturylady said:

Only those professing to be a Christian. Paul gives a few in 1 Corintians 5
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

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But they are still brother . Can still come to worship God .
Church back then would meet daily to eat bread not like us once a week for one hour , so that punishment was a good design to keep people from immoral stuff .

Nithavela said:

That quote is about the wife of one's father, not about homosexuality.

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They are equal, so what does it matter what the exact sin was?

Chinchilla said:

But they are still brother . Can still come to worship God .
Church back then would meet daily to eat bread not like us once a week for one hour , so that punishment was a good design to keep people from immoral stuff .

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Are you saying that have to stop being a homosexual BEFORE being saved? And they have to be saved in order to come to church to learn of the gospel?

dreadnought said:

It was a bit of a surprise to post the thread, and then come back in less than two hours later and see there were five pages of responses.

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Better do a copy-and-paste before there is a thread deletion. This topic seems to be a general no-no.

1stcenturylady said:

Are you saying that have to stop being a homosexual BEFORE being saved? And they have to be saved in order to come to church to learn of the gospel?

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No I never said that , you said that sinners should come to churches .
Salvation is free as I quoted Romans to you aswell not by fulfilling law by you because you can't do that .
Also said that transgenders should come to church but not as leaders / pastors / bishops .

dreadnought said:

And divorced, remarried pastors - but I'm not just talking about pastors.

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Off subject, but what do you think about remarriage? Or should we have a new thread? Divorce today is so liberal, are they really eligible in the eyes of God to remarry? The last man I kissed was my husband 17 years ago, let alone remarry.

dreadnought said:

I'd rather not have a homosexual pastor. How would you know he was homosexual unless he flaunted it?

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You could see him dating . World is small as people say .

HereIStand said:

Better do a copy-and-paste before there is a thread deletion. This topic seems to be a general no-no.

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Thanks for mentioning this - I've only came back to this forum tonight after 7 years away, so will refresh myself on the FAQs shortly. It strikes me as both sad and bizarre if these talking points are forbidden. As loving Christians, I'd have thought it's within us to discuss things civilly and respectfully. Isn't that the whole purpose of forums? The "homosexuality" topic is probably the biggest topic (and arguably one of the most important we get right) of our time within our faith. Strikes me as crazy it would then be banned from discussion, certainly when no one has really been abusive. But there we go. I'll have a read of the FAQs and if I feel it's too oppressive or dictates what you can and can't say, I'll have to consider whether I continue to use this specific board. God bless

Chinchilla said:

No I never said that , you said that sinners should come to churches .
Salvation is free as I quoted Romans to you aswell not by fulfilling law by you because you can't do that .
Also said that transgenders should come to church but not as leaders / pastors / bishops .

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Who said anything about transgenders? But yes, they should be allowed in church as those choices were made while they were yet sinners. But leaders/pastors/bishops absolutely not.