How can we start a Wave?

2PhiloVoid said:

I agree. So it sounds like you not only would like for our country to be reformed, but you'd also like to reach out in beneficence to our Southern neighbors in some capacity. Those are admirable goals, and I think you'll find that the Scriptures back up both of these longings that God has obviously laid on your heart.

Well, that's a difficult one to answer, particularly, as you already know, if taking into account everything that the Bible tells. Each of us, with the gifts that God has given us, can do something at least.

One place to start would be, I think, to study the social directives given in the Old Testament Laws regarding foreigners, aliens, and strangers. Those are the three terms you'll find most often and there are some substantial things to find and understand there first. So, if you haven't already studied this topic, that might be one place to begin. Another would be to read some Christian books (and maybe some non-Christian books) on humanitarian aims in addressing the social political problem that is present with our neighbors coming from the South. What do you think about that for starters? One thing to keep in mind is that you shouldn't let this concern get in the way of your being a mother, a wife, and a part of your church locally.

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Humble me Lord said:

You are all right and have good suggestions, but this is in the politics forum, and I think what the OP is getting at is being active politically, to make a change for the positive.
Romans 13:1-7, and 1 Timothy 2:1-4, both speak about this. Yes, our love and main focus belong on the Lord, but we are also to be good citizens, follow the rules, pay taxes, and pray for our leaders.
But I do not think we are supposed to sit on our hands and do nothing. I believe it is every Christians duty to vote for leaders who promote Godly principles.
Try 1 Samuel 12:13-25 on for size.
Do we not also strive to further God's kingdom by spreading the gospel? Why would it be different with voting?
I read somewhere that 1 in 5 self professed Christians are not even registered to vote, now there's something you could do, Karin, spread the word and try to get Christians to get out and vote.

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yeshuaslavejeff said:

Do you realize that 44% of American voters, by your percentage here, caused so much sin and crime in this country ,
without the help of the other 56% ?

If the voters did occasion/ cause all the things as if they could by voting. (oppression of the poor in every state and most all cities, by laws ('approved by voting' by the 44%!? ), gave pharmakeia unbelievable power and free reign to do as they please,
got rid of mom and pop businesses and farms/ small businesses established by hard work(ers) and hopeful entrepreneurs ....
laws that prevent known for hundreds or thousands of years remedies, preventions and cures that because of this
cost taxpayers and VOTERS and citizens hundreds of thousands of dollars each in their lives, for many ....

on and on and on - the system of government, law, and education has attacked all that God's people have sought for for 2000 years.

Much of that POWER comes from letting people think they did it by voting ! (it doesn't matter if a little good slips past the wicked leaders sometimes - they deal with it before too long happens)...

--- yet much of the wickedness all around us was APPROVED BY 44% ! Adding more % won't help, no.

Rather, the country won't change by man's doing,

but if the few, "If MY people, will get down on their knees and pray, and repent of their sinful ways....

THEN I WILL HEAL THEIR LAND (God will, and can, when He chooses, when He says, at the proper time)

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yeshuaslavejeff said:

(for research) WHO controls about 90 to 95 % of the power and money ---
far more than the united states annual income or budget (which they control with a tight fist) ....

Who's responsible for the fish kills, bird kills, babies killed, adults killed, small honest businesses killed, small farmers wiped out,
education in a shambles, banks worse every day ,
politics deceptive more and more daily, religious groups opposed to Jesus growing in number and in power daily ....

all around us, like King David Cried - "WHY ! does the wicked prosper! ? ......" while I , a "man after God's Own heart are hiding in the woods and caves for my life !?

Why does the world hate the men of God, ===
because the world hates Jesus.

The world outnumbers the true followers of Jesus, true believers,
more than anyone seems to imagine even.....

The believers are not in charge, not in control, not where they can do anything apart from Grace, God's Grace, doing what is needed....
except in their own neighborhood, among the sick and needy and destitute and forlorn, abandoned by everyone else even their own families.....

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yeshuaslavejeff said:

You completely ignored or missed the point.

There is a time for sitting back and waiting, and do that when that is what Yahweh says to do "BE STILL AND KNOW......"
and "In quietness and in confidence (God-confidence) shall be your strength"

but DO NOT do what the world does in sin -
do not interrupt sitting and waiting on God
by getting up and doing what the enemy, the flessh, the world , or sin says must be done ....
see?

INSTEAD LISTEN to the Father in prayer frequently daily,
and what the Father says do, do.
What the Father says speak, say that,
just as Jesus did,
just as Jesus trained all the disciples to do.

Do not do what men train you to do, as if that is good or right or in line with God's Plan and Purpose ---

God's Ways are NOT man's ways, but are as high above man's ways as the heavens are above the earth !

Man's ways "look right" but the results are death.

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